Patriots injuries

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    Is it just me or does it seem the Patriots are way above average for injuries...I know all teams have injuries, but would be interesting to see a statisitic on this, maybe something like player-games missed due to injury.
     
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    The Patriots always dominate the injury report. 
     
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    The Patriots always dominate the injury report. 
    Posted by 49Patriots


    Why is that?
     
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    It is not just you.  The Pats do indeed suffer more injuries than the average team.  I always thought that myself, but figured since I was only following the Pats, I simply wasn't noticing other teams' injuries.

    Why it is that was is a good question.  Is it the particular technique the players are taught to use here?  Is our strength and conditioning coach overrated?  Do we draft too many players with injury histories?  Not sure what it is, but it's hard to swallow that we get merely unlucky with injuries so many years.
     
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    Here is a copy of my old post:

    A while back, I wrote that someone without a life should figure out the real skinny on which teams had the most injuries.  After looking at my post history and post times, it dawned on me that perhaps I should take on that task.  Fortunately, I found a nice article regarding the 2008 season.  What does it say:

    1. It's not our imaginations.  The Pats are one of the more injured teams.
    2. The Chargers last year were the 10th healthiest team.  Explain your whining jbolted.
    3. Last year the Pats were the 29th healthiest team.  Only 3 teams had more injuries.
    4. The Jets were the healthiest team last year.  Miami was 8th healthiest team.
    5. The 2001 Pats team was the 9th healthiest team for the year.
    6. The 2003 Pats were the 32nd healthiest team for the year.  That's right, we won the Lombardi with the most injured team in the league that year.
    7. The 2004 Pats were the 19th healthiest team.
    8. Looking at SB winners since 1998, only the Colts had a comparable injury rate while still winning the big game.  In 2006, the Colts were the 23rd healthiest team.  Nearly every other team that has won the SB was in the top 5 healthiest teams.  Baltimore was #9 when they won.  


    Here is a snippet:

    INJURIES BY TEAM

    Listed for each team are: A) the number of games lost by starters because of injury; B) the number of starters who finished the season on reserve lists; C) the number of players who started all 16 games; and D) the key injury and number of games missed by that player (division champs in CAPS; playoff teams in bold:

     

    TeamG/LIR16 G'sKey injuryG's
    NY Jets12014S Eric Smith6
    Atlanta15110LT Sam Baker7
    CAROLINA16111C Ryan Kalil4
    ARIZONA18011WR Anquan Boldin4
    TENNESSEE2109DE Kyle VandenBosch6
    San Francisco2218RT Jonas Jennings14
    Philadelphia24011G Shawn Andrews14
    MIAMI2539G Donald Thomas15
    MINNESOTA2617MLB E.J. Henderson12
    SAN DIEGO2919OLB Shawne Merriman15
    Tampa Bay30210HB Earnest Graham6
    Chicago31312CB Nathan Vasher8
    NY GIANTS33110DE Osi Umenyiora16
    Dallas36214G Kyle Kosier13
    Kansas City3629QB Brodie Croyle14
    Oakland3717OLB Rickey Brown9
    Houston41212SS C.C. Brown13
    Cleveland43310DE Robaire Smith14
    Green Bay44410DE Cullen Jenkins12
    Buffalo5027LB Angelo Crowell16
    Indianapolis5015S Bob Sanders9
    Detroit5164QB Jon Kitna12
    Washington52310DE Phillip Daniels16
    PITTSBURGH5328G Kendall Simmons12
    Jacksonville5664G Vince Manuwai15
    New Orleans5646CB Tracy Porter11
    St. Louis5833CB Tye Hill12
    Baltimore64413SS Dawan Landry14
    New England6447QB Tom Brady15
    Denver6539CB Champ Bailey7
    Seattle7264WR Nate Burleson15
    Cincinnati8465QB Carson Palmer12

    NOTE ON MISSED GAMES: There are 16 possible starts at each of the 22 positions. So it's impossible to have more than 16 games lost at any one position. For instance, Washington strongside defensive end Philip Daniels suffered a season-ending knee injury in training camp. So that's 16 starts off the top. The Redskins traded for Jason Taylor, who replaced Daniels in the lineup. Taylor missed three starts because of injury himself, but his would not count in the team total because Daniels' 16 games lost are already on the books. To count Taylor's would be double-counting at one position.

     

    CHAMPIONS' LOSSES

    Regular-season games lost by starters because of injury for the last 10 Super Bowl champions:

     

    YearChampionGames lostNFL rank
    1998Denver143
    1999St. Louis114
    2000Baltimore219
    2001New England269
    2002Tampa Bay176
    2003New England8732
    2004New England5519
    2005Pittsburgh162
    2006Indianapolis4923
    2007NY Giants224

     
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    Carawaydj we have been the oldest team in the NFL on average for a while now. That has to have a lot to do with it.
     
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    Carawaydj we have been the oldest team in the NFL on average for a while now. That has to have a lot to do with it.
    Posted by TrueChamp


    Due to the nature of the Cap we tend to have old vets, rookie contracts and role players who we can afford.
     
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    In Response to Re: Patriots injuries : Due to the nature of the Cap we tend to have old vets, rookie contracts and role players who we can afford.
    Posted by wozzy

     
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    Patriots with 12 players on today's injury report 2 days before Flacons game, 10 as questionable. Falcons have 1 player..is this BB pulling the NFL's chain or are the Pats really that much more injured than everyone else?
     
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    This is a point i have said for the last 4 years. WHY, is this team espically at the begining of the year always getting their players hurt? And for those thinkings it's because we have older players, thats not true. Even the rookies, like Maroney, Chad Jackson, I can go on. SOMETHING is seriously wrong with the way the conditioning coach or coache's are training these players. I'me not a genius or a Doctor but the facts are right there.....the Patriot players are always comming up hurt. Conditioning has Everything to do with this. Jerry Rice said he always did his own condition training, and never followed condition coaches advice, look how long he lasted. Constant weight lifting and training may add muscle and strength but also weakens joints, over lifting for power can and will seriously hurt you in the long run. Why Mr. Kraft doesnt look into this problem and yes this is a problem, is beyond me.
     
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    This is a point i have said for the last 4 years. WHY, is this team espically at the begining of the year always getting their players hurt? And for those thinkings it's because we have older players, thats not true. Even the rookies, like Maroney, Chad Jackson, I can go on. SOMETHING is seriously wrong with the way the conditioning coach or coache's are training these players. I'me not a genius or a Doctor but the facts are right there.....the Patriot players are always comming up hurt. Conditioning has Everything to do with this. Jerry Rice said he always did his own condition training, and never followed condition coaches advice, look how long he lasted. Constant weight lifting and training may add muscle and strength but also weakens joints, over lifting for power can and will seriously hurt you in the long run. Why Mr. Kraft doesnt look into this problem and yes this is a problem, is beyond me.
    Posted by MudCityManglers

    Every time I look at your avatar I have to find a post from NEGame and get some "eye candy therapy".  Your avatar is probably a major factor in erectile disfunction.  Do you own stock in Viagra or something :^)

     
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    The Patriots do tend to draft or sign free agent rookies that slide to them because of injury histories. Not surprisingly, many of them are injury prone in the NFL.
     
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    Hobbs talked about this very thing after being shown the door. He was always hurt but played. It's seem's to me players end up on IR easily also.
     
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    How about this thought....  do the starters for the Patriots play TOO LITTLE in the pre-season?

    I can't compare the Pats against other teams for this matter, but, in the pre-season we seem to see very little of the starters later in the pre-season.  Then the team comes out for the real games and players drop like crazy.  Does this also beg the other question - "Are they "game" ready at the start of the regular season?"  True, they all fully participate in practices, maybe not, but, practices aren't the real thing.  In a game it is all out for the time you are on the field.  We talk about how the team will improve as the season progresses.  Well, doesn't that statement play into the thinking the team doesn't do enough in the pre-season to get ready for the season?  Just food for thought.
     
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    Guys get hurt all the time.  I really only get concerned when it's the major type of injuries (i.e. Mayo).  Althought I will admit I was surprised by Welker last week.  This explains why he hardly played in preseason.  Somehow he got hurt, either  this is a holdover injury that they thought would heal or it is a new injury from pre season practice.  

    I have this thing about guys hurt the year before and then they wait around hoping it will heal and lose another year.  Fix it and move on. 

    What concerns me about Welker, was, (let's presume the injuries are related) they rested him during preseaon....he played well in Game 1 ..... I didn't see him get hurt....then he was out again in game 2.   He's ready now, but I hope it isn't game on game off with him all year long. 

    While we are on this subject, the Giants seem to have plethora of WR's.  I'm starting to question the brillinat talent evaluators with the Pat's. 

    I know how BB works....in the book Patriot Reign Holley writes how BB utilized Jimmy Johnson's old technique of targeting players he wants prior to draft, then maneuvering via trades during the draft to get them.  Apparently, back in '03 Eugene Wilson and Bethel Johnson were two of said picks.  Look how they turned out.  Personally I'd like to see the emergence of Nunn or that kid from NC emerge and revive our "old" WR corp.  If there isone criticism of BB is that he will overhaul things but he tends to let an part of the team rot....RB and WR right now.  When was the last time we had someone come in and be an impact guy there?  I know they've tried with Chad Jackson and Maroney.....but it didn't work.   Be as much as it may, it sets the team back.  Somebody's privates have to be on the line. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Patriots injuries : Every time I look at your avatar I have to find a post from NEGame and get some "eye candy therapy".  Your avatar is probably a major factor in erectile disfunction.  Do you own stock in Viagra or something :^)
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    No, I don't own stock in any of that. I look like this because my father was Mark Gastineau and my mother was Pipi Longstocking. I think they were doing a hit of acid and that explains the dark circles under my eyes, my teeth look like the Ancient Roman Ruins because my daddy had me teething on GoodYear tires. At least after reading my post's you can check out the Patriot's Cheerleaders, and that's a good thing! But I'me sure glad your Mr. Winkie doest get excited from looking at me lol! Play Ball! It's that nooo good Dan Marino! Laces Out!
     
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    plenty of teams get hit with injuries. it just always feels more intense when its your own team. take a look at the giants, dolphins, chargers to name a few. and especially the seahawks. its part of the game. and the few teams that go deep in the playoffs are usually the few that are lucky enough to stay healthy. the pats are one of the few teams that seem to to able to overcome the injury bug. think the colts would win 11 games without manning for the year? and it looks to me like the steelers are in some trouble without palomalo. 
    whilhite is a real question mark. wonder what happened there. and lets hope wilfork is ok...
     
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    plenty of teams get hit with injuries. it just always feels more intense when its your own team. 
    Posted by artielang


    While it's true it always feels more intense when it's your own team, the Pats actually do fare worse than average.  My above post and article copy highlights that.  It's not our imaginations.  There are some folks however (jbolted) who think their team has bad luck with injuries, but are actually pretty healthy.  
     
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    can't wait for welker and mayo to come back!
     
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    Hopefully Welker will be back next week and that Wilfork's injury isn't all that serious.
     
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    Carawaydj we have been the oldest team in the NFL on average for a while now. That has to have a lot to do with it.
    Posted by TrueChamp


         Champ:

         Its' not the old guys who are getting hurt...its' the young guys. ILB Tyrone McKenzie, ILB Jerod Mayo, OLB Shawn Crable, CB Terrence Wheatley, RB Laurence Maroney, FS Brandon Meriweather, CB Darius Butler...and Wes Welker.

         Very frustrating.
     
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    Notice how many of the injured players are on the defense....Wonder if they're coached to play at a physical level higher than their capabilities?
     
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