Patriots Should Be Rebuilding, or Reloading?

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    Re: Patriots Should Be Rebuilding, or Reloading?

    Move Light to RT and put Vollimer at LT. 

    Matt Light is probably better than 25 starting RTs at this point in his carrer (ranked 19th for Tackles overall by Scouts, Inc prior to 2009).  He's still faster and quicker than most RTs and is a decent run blocker, Light just has problems with some speed rushers that frequent the right side of the defense.  I'm sure BB was reluctant to make a in-season switch in positions for Light last year, but they'll have all pre-season to get Matt Light comforable on the right side.  If he says no, cut him.  But they have short money on Light at this point in his contract and they can try to find his replacement in the 2nd/3rd round (trade) in the draft without having to throw the rookie into the fire right away.  Maybe Light resigns and plays a couple more years at RT after 2010.

    Koppen finished 18th last year for Centers in that Football Focus grading system.  Scouts, Inc had Koppen randed tied for 3rd for Centers going into the 2009 season.  12th-18th seems about right for Koppen: an average to above average center right now.  Won't kill you but not a Pro Bowl player at current. 
     
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    TP - again - sometimes QB hits are the fault of the QB.

    By the way, that site has stats for the # of times a QB was hit as he threw - 9 times for Brady.
     
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    In Response to Re: Patriots Should Be Rebuilding, or Reloading? :      BS...are you trying to tell me that Brady, according to your cited stats...was listed as only getting hit 9 times as he threw all season? He was hit 23 times in just one game against the Jets!      I guess stats can be twisted to show anything that the author wants to show. People who watched the Patriots games last season know what a terrific beating Brady took. 
    Posted by TexasPat3


    TP - its not my site.  On another thread, one of your fellow pats fans listed it.  Go back to it.  It shows stats for QB's. 

    But again - when QB's get hit, sometimes it is the QB's fault.  don't you agree?
     
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    Kazur is the weak link. He's so pourous Brady can't get out of the way many times.  I hope they do look to draft a RT and play Vollmer at LT

    Light is what he's always been.  If he could be moved to RT it helps simply because he's not protecting Brady's blindside. ...I don't know that he could switched but it's worth a shot. He's at least a valuable cog as depth.


    RE the OC/DC thing.  BB has always been a micro-manager.  That's one reason Weis left for ND (and other coordinators leave) and there was no mention of him returning. We know kid who played under Weis at ND... All I can say is he's a Grade A jerk who was in over his head, and the record shows it.  Right or wrong BB has always been the center of the O and D.
     
     
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    Re: Patriots Should Be Rebuilding, or Reloading?

    TP - your stat is a NYJ stat.  It may not be entirely accurate.  Ryan in his short time as head coach has effectively demonstrated his capacity for hyperbole, so I and everyone else should take that stat with a grain of salt. 

    Additionally, this was Brady's second Reg Season game since 2008.  What was demonstrated early in the season last year was that Brady (as I claimed he would) had a little trouble getting back to his old form.  Even if he was not hit 23 times, he may have been hit more frequently than normal. 

    As for getting the ball away quickly, I hope you are not talking about a quick release, because I am not.  Brady may very well be the kind of QB to wait and wait and wait for his players to get open getting rid of the ball.  If he was rusty (which he was), that could contribute to holding the ball.  Roethlisberger is a fantastic QB, but is known for holding the ball too long.  He takes hits.  Is that the line's fault or his fault.  I am not suggesting that Brady is in the same league as Roethlisberger for holding the ball, but he may be more prone to it than you want to allow.  And certainly that may be the case last year. 

    Moss' routes usually take a while to develop.  Welker is frequently not the 1st receiver in a progression.  So it may be that Brady holds the ball.

     
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         I can't understand why some posters are straining to defend the OL. The Pats have no running game. But, instead of blaming the OL for not opening holes for the RBs, they blame the RBs! Their HOF QB gets his knee destroyed in 2008, gets hit an unbelievable 23 times in one game, and suffered a sore shoulder, broken ribs, and a broken finger...and yet they claim that he's been adequately protected.      Mercy.   
    Posted by TexasPat3

    Tex, I agree with you on this one. The numbers on that website don't translate to what we see on the field. If we had Barry Sanders the poor run blocking wouldn't be a problem. We do, however, have one of the best QB's who's adept at evading rushers and getting rid of the ball to avoid sacks and he still gets crushed.
     
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         I can't understand why some posters are straining to defend the OL. The Pats have no running game. But, instead of blaming the OL for not opening holes for the RBs, they blame the RBs! Their HOF QB gets his knee destroyed in 2008, gets hit an unbelievable 23 times in one game, and suffered a sore shoulder, broken ribs, and a broken finger...and yet they claim that he's been adequately protected.      Mercy.   
    Posted by TexasPat3


    They didn't comit to the run in 2009, but still finish 12th in rushing. They couldn't close out the game because they didn't have a big back.  In 2008 they were 6th in rushing despite having a real feature back.  Same OL, but something like 50 less attempts. Having the man they thought would be the feature RB and (purhaps) the second best RB get hurt did not help in '09.

    Every QB gets hit. The 2008 hit was a freak accident from a S who was blocked. Yes they have some protection issues. They have Kazur who's porous and should be dumped, and Light who has issues vs faster rushers.  They have a replacement for Kazur.  Yes they need another RT or LT. Lets' not make them into the dregs of the universe either.
     
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    Re: Patriots Should Be Rebuilding, or Reloading?

    Let's not overreact, they have a few missing parts, albeit key parts.  They have the ability to correct much of that.

     
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