Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

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    Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    Defensive lineman Armond Armstead won't be the only Canadian Football League player with the Patriots this offseason. The team has agreed to terms with Brockton native and former Northeastern standout end/linebacker Jason Vega on a contract, CFL and NFL sources said.

    The Blue Bombers have to release him from his contract before he can sign with an NFL team.

    Contract details aren't known, but similar structure to Armstead (three years) with less guaranteed money

    Vega (6-4, 255 pounds) ran 4.6 seconds in the 40-yard dash. He had 12 sacks in two seasons with the Blue Bombers.

    I'll have more on Armstead, Vega and why the Patriots suddenly like Molson beer so much in Sunday notes. But for now, here's a CFL executive on Vega:

    “You see the same kind of stuff that a Ninkovich does. He does show ability to get to the quarterback with a high motor and some pretty good technique. He’s an OK athlete, like Ninkovich, but he makes plays.”
    Here is a Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy9T0xw6l7Q
     
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    Sorry my bad

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

      Jason Vega, DS #64 OLB, Northeastern   Bookmark and Share Name:  Jason Vega 
    College:  Northeastern      Number: 97
    Height: 6-4    Weight: 248 
    Position:  OLB   Pos2: DE
    Class/Draft Year:  Sr/2010
    40 Low: 4.62    40 Time:  4.70   40 High: 4.78 
    Projected Round:    Stock:     High: PFA/DEorLB   Low:tryouts
    Rated number 64 out of 159 OLB's      999 / 1990 TOTAL  Combine Results  Pro Day Results Combine Invite: 
    Height: 6035
    Weight: 248
    40 Yrd Dash: 
    20 Yrd Dash: 
    10 Yrd Dash:  225 Lb. Bench Reps: 
    Vertical Jump: 
    Broad Jump: 
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 
    3-Cone Drill: 


    Dates:  03/11@Boston College 03/25@UMass 
    Height: 6035
    Weight: 248
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.69
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.67
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.69 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 21
    Vertical Jump: 34
    Broad Jump: 10'04"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.06
    3-Cone Drill: 7.07

       40 Time Range: 4.67-4.75
     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    http://www.cfl.ca/roster/show/id/4357

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    Too bad they didn't sign Peppers a few years back.  I quess they were saving their money for CFL guys.

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    In response to No-Mercy-Defence's comment:

    Defensive lineman Armond Armstead won't be the only Canadian Football League player with the Patriots this offseason. The team has agreed to terms with Brockton native and former Northeastern standout end/linebacker Jason Vega on a contract, CFL and NFL sources said.

    The Blue Bombers have to release him from his contract before he can sign with an NFL team.

    Contract details aren't known, but similar structure to Armstead (three years) with less guaranteed money

    Vega (6-4, 255 pounds) ran 4.6 seconds in the 40-yard dash. He had 12 sacks in two seasons with the Blue Bombers.

    I'll have more on Armstead, Vega and why the Patriots suddenly like Molson beer so much in Sunday notes. But for now, here's a CFL executive on Vega:

    “You see the same kind of stuff that a Ninkovich does. He does show ability to get to the quarterback with a high motor and some pretty good technique. He’s an OK athlete, like Ninkovich, but he makes plays.”
    Here is a Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy9T0xw6l7Q



    He has not shown ability to make plays in the NFL. Big diff between OTs.

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    Why do the Pats need another DE/OLB?

    Wonder if there are any standout CB in the CFL that BB can look at? The field for Candian football is longer and wider, and there are only 3 downs, so there are a lot of passes.

     

     
     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    He has a cool name so i'm a fan.

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    how about the next signing for BB from the CFL.  Pat Watkins DB toronto Argonauts.  the guy is 6'5" and runs a 4.44 40. 

     

    here is his draft analysis

    Positives: Has a lanky frame with developing muscle tone, long limbs and room to add more bulk with no loss in quickness … Plays deep center field, showing the range and closing burst to make plays in front of him … Consistent wrap-up tackler who takes good angles in pursuit, doing a nice job of squaring his shoulders and extending his arms to wrap and secure … Won't blow up the ballcarrier on initial contact, but generates enough pop to take his opponent down … Quick to recognize and locate the ball when sifting through traffic … Has the foot speed and hip flexibility to easily redirect and shows steady acceleration in his pursuit … Backpedals with ease, maintaining body control and showing adequate flexibility … Attacks the ball with good urgency and can angle effectively to neutralize the cutback lanes … Catches the ball in his hands and away from his body and has a natural feel to look the ball in (possible receiver candidate) … Aggressive in run support and works hard to play through blocks … Not timid when taking on lead blockers at the line of scrimmage … Has the body control to make open-field tackles and is also effective stepping up to fill the rush alleys.

    Negatives: Needs to add some additional strength to his frame (has adequate power, but not enough to easily shed vs. bigger blockers) … More comfortable playing center field in the zone than in man coverage, as his long stride sometimes allows receivers to gain separation on long routes … Because of his long limbs, he gets too high in his backpedal, but compensates with loose hips to turn and run on the ball … Has a business-like approach on the field and needs to show better aggression and become more vocal.

    Teams looking for consistency in a free safety are well aware of Watkins' ability. He is a tall, rangy athlete with surprisingly good acceleration for a player with long limbs and a long stride. He is capable of maintaining leverage and does a good job of breaking down and reading plays. He makes all the checks and calls on the field and it is very rare to see him caught out of position.

    Watkins lacks that search-and-destroy aggressive nature and will not explode behind his tackles, but he quietly and effectively goes about his job. Because he stands so tall in his backpedal, he struggles some mirroring receivers in man coverage, but has the loose hips to turn and run on the ball. He is more comfortable playing the deep third of the field. He has the range and acceleration to close and is alert to play-action.

    Watkins takes good angles when attacking the outside running game. He has enough strength to take on the lead blocker in attempts to fill the inside rush lanes and runs the alley well. He has natural hands and good extension agility to adjust to the high pass. He times his leaps well to compete for the ball at its high point and does a good job using his arms when tackling to strip the receiver from the ball.

    Watkins is taller than most free safeties, but has the range and ease of movement agility to compensate for not keeping his pads down. He has that natural feel for going up and attacking the ball. So much so, he might be able to see some reps as a receiver at the next level. He is a very good gunner on the punt coverage unit, which only adds more to his value. It will be no surprise if he is taken on the draft's first day.

     
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    Guess BB is not taking any time off. Sifting through all the available talent and getting it cheap.

    maybe now we can affrod some Julio Jones and Roddy White type WRs

     
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    Worst case scenerio he turns into that linebacker from Michigan we reached for in the 3rd or 4th round a few years ago. Best case scenerio we don't have to keep him on the roster for three years like we do with a lot of these drafted guys we have that can't play (but want to save face by keeping them around).

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    The 2013 NFL draft is the first Patriots draft in quite a while where BB hasn't come in loaded with draft trades.  He probably gets pick #29 in the first round, he has #61 and then 2 more picks after that.  How do you build a team with such poor picks? 

    So, the front office found another source of cheap, experienced players.  This week is apparently draft week, but the other 31 teams don't know it yet. 

    Vega is a bit heavier than the average NFL linebacker, perhaps a bit light by Patriots standards.  He's fast enough.  He may not be a starter but he's at least a quality backup.

    If Vega gets cut, if Jake Ballard gets cut, if Jeff Demps gets cut, if Armstead gets cut, remember that the front office has invested next to nothing in their signings and loses next to nothing.  If even one of these guys hits, BB has won.

     

     
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    6'4" 256 pounds, he was injury prone but ultra productive in Canada when he played, sounds a lot like NFL guys we've taken recently; Trevor Scott and Jeff Fanene come to mind.  If he can keep weight or even pack on some more, as well as stay healthy it wouldn't surprise if he became a rags to riches story; another Belichick find.  

    He does have his work cut out for him though, because the depth chart is deep ahead of him, full of solid players like Bequette and Francis chomping at the bit for snaps.

    These Pro Day results might just be favorable due to home field comfort, forty times are always faster on a home track, but his 4.6 shuttle time (had he attended the NFL combine) would have placed him as the 2nd best time amongst every linebacker and defensive lineman at the combine with the lone exception of Bruce Irvin.  

    His broad jump would have tied him for 2nd in the entire combine along with 5 other players at both linebacker and defensive linemen.  His vertical jump as well and his upper body strength and even his forty time were very respectable (15th-17th area) amongst linebackers and his three cone drill was 7th best among linebackers.  

    What all this raw data tells us is that while his inline speed isn't incredible, he has really good all around athleticism.  He ended up in Canada because he was a small school guy, but he proved to be explosive to the QB up north once he got there.  Another solid depth signing by BB...

     
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    Is Vega from the same Northeastern U that has a building on Huntington?

     
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    He's from Brockton, a local.

     
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    In response to wozzy's comment:

    6'4" 256 pounds, he was injury prone but ultra productive in Canada when he played, sounds a lot like NFL guys we've taken recently; Trevor Scott and Jeff Fanene come to mind.  If he can keep weight or even pack on some more, as well as stay healthy it wouldn't surprise if he became a rags to riches story; another Belichick find.  

    He does have his work cut out for him though, because the depth chart is deep ahead of him, full of solid players like Bequette and Francis chomping at the bit for snaps.

    These Pro Day results might just be favorable due to home field comfort, forty times are always faster on a home track, but his 4.6 shuttle time (had he attended the NFL combine) would have placed him as the 2nd best time amongst every linebacker and defensive lineman at the combine with the lone exception of Bruce Irvin.  

    His broad jump would have tied him for 2nd in the entire combine along with 5 other players at both linebacker and defensive linemen.  His vertical jump as well and his upper body strength and even his forty time were very respectable (15th-17th area) amongst linebackers and his three cone drill was 7th best among linebackers.  

    What all this raw data tells us is that while his inline speed isn't incredible, he has really good all around athleticism.  He ended up in Canada because he was a small school guy, but he proved to be explosive to the QB up north once he got there.  Another solid depth signing by BB...



    Yeah...except for the fact that he is a cfl guy. I understand why people are excited, but there is a reason these guys don't get drafted bt nfl teams. For every Cameron wake, there are thousands of cfl guys that stay in the cfl..some have good careers

     
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    Yeah...except for the fact that he is a cfl guy. I understand why people are excited, but there is a reason these guys don't get drafted bt nfl teams. For every Cameron wake, there are thousands of cfl guys that stay in the cfl..some have good careers

     



    Football is football, for people asking why football doesn't have another league or a developmental league; they do, it's in Canada.

     
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    I get it Wozz...my point was even though the cfl may be an nfl developmental league, the kids that do make it to the nfl and are successful are few and far between. I see both cfl signings as a way for bb to stock for camp and see what sticks. They in no way should be considerEd done in terms of drafting or FA dt's. they need quality, blue chippers next to vInce, not some cfl,  undrafted or 7th rounder Like love and deaderick, Pryor and the rest. 

    What amazes me (not pointing fingers at you Wozz) is that people here actually think love, deaderick, Francis , Pryor are any good  .. They are okay, quality depth, but not a one of them is nfl starting material 

     
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    Agree with everything you say, but would add that a lot of these Canadian kids as well as any undrafted free agent often don't make it for the same reason draft picks won't make it; injury.  Not necessarily lack of talent, a lot of these kids didn't get invited to the combine, this is why road scouting is so important, going to Pro Days, knowing what you're looking for.  

    Love, Deaderick, Francis all good players but you're right when you say they're not necessarily starters or we could use some serious high draft pick depth next to them.  Truthfully it's not that Love shouldn't be starting because he should start in a 3/4 defense at one end, but very few men can start in the middle of an every down 2/4/5 nickel, it shouldn't be used on every down unless you have two Wilforks in the middle or it's a long 3rd down conversion and you're only concern is rushing the passer and having speed on the field.  

    We don't have two Wilforks, we get little to no pressure on QB's, we ranked 15th in sacks and mainly because our offense was so potent teams had to play catch up so we tried to tee off but just couldn't.  We get no push from the interior beyond Wilfork, this is why the Armstead signing intrigued me more than another edge rusher, we have a bunch of great edge rushers already what we need is beef inside to collapse the pocket.

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    In response to No-Mercy-Defence's comment:

    Defensive lineman Armond Armstead won't be the only Canadian Football League player with the Patriots this offseason. The team has agreed to terms with Brockton native and former Northeastern standout end/linebacker Jason Vega on a contract, CFL and NFL sources said.

    The Blue Bombers have to release him from his contract before he can sign with an NFL team.

    Contract details aren't known, but similar structure to Armstead (three years) with less guaranteed money

    Vega (6-4, 255 pounds) ran 4.6 seconds in the 40-yard dash. He had 12 sacks in two seasons with the Blue Bombers.

    I'll have more on Armstead, Vega and why the Patriots suddenly like Molson beer so much in Sunday notes. But for now, here's a CFL executive on Vega:

    “You see the same kind of stuff that a Ninkovich does. He does show ability to get to the quarterback with a high motor and some pretty good technique. He’s an OK athlete, like Ninkovich, but he makes plays.”
    Here is a Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy9T0xw6l7Q



    so next season will you guys be Le Pats or Patriots, Eh?

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    In response to kansaspatriot's comment:

    Guess BB is not taking any time off. Sifting through all the available talent and getting it cheap.

    maybe now we can affrod some Julio Jones and Roddy White type WRs




    Pats do cheap better than anyone

     
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    Re: Patriots Sign another from the CFL ( Jason Vega) End-Linebacker

    In response to wozzy's comment:

    Agree with everything you say, but would add that a lot of these Canadian kids as well as any undrafted free agent often don't make it for the same reason draft picks won't make it; injury.  Not necessarily lack of talent, a lot of these kids didn't get invited to the combine, this is why road scouting is so important, going to Pro Days, knowing what you're looking for.  

    Love, Deaderick, Francis all good players but you're right when you say they're not necessarily starters or we could use some serious high draft pick depth next to them.  Truthfully it's not that Love shouldn't be starting because he should start in a 3/4 defense at one end, but very few men can start in the middle of an every down 2/4/5 nickel, it shouldn't be used on every down unless you have two Wilforks in the middle or it's a long 3rd down conversion and you're only concern is rushing the passer and having speed on the field.  

    We don't have two Wilforks, we get little to no pressure on QB's, we ranked 15th in sacks and mainly because our offense was so potent teams had to play catch up so we tried to tee off but just couldn't.  We get no push from the interior beyond Wilfork, this is why the Armstead signing intrigued me more than another edge rusher, we have a bunch of great edge rushers already what we need is beef inside to collapse the pocket.




    Who are the great edge rushers? I'll agree Jones has a lot of promise for a young guy, but are you thinking Nink or Scott are great? Cunningham? Francis? Let's face facts even though we are Pats fans, these guys are rotational depth, they are not great.

     
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    In response to rkarp's comment:

    Who are the great edge rushers? I'll agree Jones has a lot of promise for a young guy, but are you thinking Nink or Scott are great? Cunningham? Francis? Let's face facts even though we are Pats fans, these guys are rotational depth, they are not great.



    Ninck is a great edge rusher, at outside linebacker he is especially good, at end he is undersized and overmatched.  The rest are very good to good.  Pass rush starts inside and works its way out, we lose the battle inside so the outside rushers are negated.

     
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