Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close

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    Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close

      It was widely reported that the Patriots would play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012.  This of course was based on the scheduled opponents records during the 2011 season.  These opponents had a 116- 140 record, .453 win pct., record  in 2011.

     

      Now that every team has played 13 games, we have enough data to ask this question- Did the Patriots really play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012?

     

      The records of the Patriots opponents in 2011 have no relevance  when measured against our opponents records in 2012.

      The NFL Standings on ESPN list the Strength of Schedule for each team.  This number is based on the overall record of each opponent played in 2012.

     

      By this measure the Patriots are 5th in the AFC and 11th overall.

               AFC                                          NFC

     Jacksonville    .553                   Arizona            .562

     Tennessee     .550                   Detroit             .553

     NY Jets           .544                   Carolina .         .547

     Miami             .529                   Washington     .529

     New England .524                   St. Louis           .527

                                                     New Orleans    .526       

     

      Strength of Schedule is used by the NFL as a tiebreaker.  In that scenario, two teams with equal records are being compared.  When comparing teams with different records Strength of Schedule is skewed.  Teams with losing records make their strength of schedule greater and conversely teams with winning records decrease their strength of schedule. *(NY Jets being the odd exception-opponents record vs Jets 7-6, Opponents record otherwise slightly better than .538)

     

    The records of the Jaguars opponents,, for example, are somewhat elevated by having the benefit of playing 13 games vs them(11-2) .  The records  of the Patriots opponents, are somewhat depressed by having played 13 games vs them(3-10).

     

      If we eliminate the from the record of the Patriots opponents in 2012 the games actually played againgst NE we will have their record vs the rest of the NFL.  This removes New England skewing of the stats.  If we do the same for the rest of the AFC we come up with a different and more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule.

     

     New England   .548

     NY Jets            .545

     Tennessee      .538

     Jacksonville     .529

     Miami              .522  

     

      By this more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule, the Patriots have played the toughest schedule in the AFC. Only Houston has depressed their Strength of Schedule more than the Patriots.  Their SOS of .462, compared to Pats .524, is not nearly offset by the extra win. 

      If we go beyond the AFC with this more accurate measure, only one team has played a tougher schedule than NE.  That team is the Arizona Cardinals with an opponents win pct. of .551 when not playing them as compared to the Patriots mark of .548.  The Patriots play the 9-3-1 49ers this weekend and the Cardinals play the 4-9 Lions. 

      After 13 games, New England has played the second toughest schedule in the NFL.  2011 is completely irrelevant.  After 14 games NE appears poised to have played the toughest schedule in the league.

     

     
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      It was widely reported that the Patriots would play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012.  This of course was based on the scheduled opponents during the 2011 season.  These opponents had a 116- 140 record, .453 win pct., record  in 2011.

     

      Now that every team has played 13 games, we have enough data to ask this question- Did the Patriots really play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012?

     

      The records of the Patriots opponents in 2011 have no relevance  when measured against our opponents records in 2012.

      The NFL Standings on ESPN list the Strength of Schedule for each team.  This number is based on the overall record of each opponent played in 2012.

     

      By this measure the Patriots are 5th in the AFC and 11th overall.

               AFC                                          NFC

     Jacksonville    .553                   Arizona            .562

     Tennessee     .550                   Detroit             .553

     NY Jets           .544                   Carolina .         .547

     Miami             .529                   Washington     .529

     New England .524                   St. Louis           .527

                                                     New Orleans    .526       

     

      Strength of Schedule is used by the NFL as a tiebreaker.  In that scenario, two teams with equal records are being compared.  When comparing teams with different records Strength of Schedule is skewed.  Teams with losing records make their strength of schedule greater and conversely teams with winning records decrease their strength of schedule. *(NY Jets being the odd exception-opponents record vs Jets 7-6, Opponents record otherwise slightly better than .538)

     

    The records of the Jaguars opponents, for example, are somewhat elevated by having the benefit of playing 13 games vs them .  The records  of the Patriots opponents are somewhat depressed by having played 13 games vs them.

     

      If we eliminate the from the record of the Patriots opponents in 2012 the games actually played againgst NE we will have their record vs the rest of the NFL.  This removes New England skewing of the stats.  If we do the same for the rest of the AFC we come up with a different and more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule.

     

     New England   .548

     NY Jets            .545

     Tennessee      .538

     Jacksonville     .529

     Miami              .522  

     

      By this more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule, the Patriots have played the toughest schedule in the AFC. Only Houston has depressed their Strength of Schedule more than the Patriots.  Their SOS of .462, compared to Pats .524, is not nearly offset by the extra win. 

      If we go beyond the AFC with this more accurate measure, only one team has played a toughter schedule than NE.  That team is the Arizona Cardinals with an opponents win pct. of .551 when not playing them as compared to the Patriots mark of .548.  The Patriots play the 9-3-1 49ers this weekend and the Cardinals play the 4-9 Lions. 

      After 13 games, New England has played the second toughest schedule in the NFL.  2011 is completely irrelevant.  After 14 games NE appears poised to have played the toughest schedule in the league.

     

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    come on stop with all this fantasy football sabremetrics crap and look with ur eyes and whats going on on the field

    the afc east is bad - not good teams playing bad but bad- and the pats play three real games: texans, 49ers and ravens with 2 of 3 at home -not their fault its just the way it fell out  but to twist things to not only deny this but actually say the pats have the hardest schedule is fall down funny...come on!

    last year i bet u used this same bit of silliness to justify that schedule which was also not exactly the hardest...winning pct means nothing to how hard a schedule is: it's who you play and who they played to get that record and when and where you play-we all know the saints are 5-8 but can still be dangerous b/c they have talent and are a good team playing bad-not a bad team-big difference that doesn't figure into computer stats

    pats are good-really good probably-and may have had similar success against a tough schedule-but this years sure ain't it

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      The facts are the facts troll loser.  Jibberish doesn't change that.

     
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      It was widely reported that the Patriots would play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012.  This of course was based on the scheduled opponents during the 2011 season.  These opponents had a 116- 140 record, .453 win pct., record  in 2011.

     

      Now that every team has played 13 games, we have enough data to ask this question- Did the Patriots really play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012?

     

      The records of the Patriots opponents in 2011 have no relevance  when measured against our opponents records in 2012.

      The NFL Standings on ESPN list the Strength of Schedule for each team.  This number is based on the overall record of each opponent played in 2012.

     

      By this measure the Patriots are 5th in the AFC and 11th overall.

               AFC                                          NFC

     Jacksonville    .553                   Arizona            .562

     Tennessee     .550                   Detroit             .553

     NY Jets           .544                   Carolina .         .547

     Miami             .529                   Washington     .529

     New England .524                   St. Louis           .527

                                                     New Orleans    .526       

     

      Strength of Schedule is used by the NFL as a tiebreaker.  In that scenario, two teams with equal records are being compared.  When comparing teams with different records Strength of Schedule is skewed.  Teams with losing records make their strength of schedule greater and conversely teams with winning records decrease their strength of schedule. *(NY Jets being the odd exception-opponents record vs Jets 7-6, Opponents record otherwise slightly better than .538)

     

    The records of the Jaguars opponents, for example, are somewhat elevated by having the benefit of playing 13 games vs them .  The records  of the Patriots opponents are somewhat depressed by having played 13 games vs them.

     

      If we eliminate the from the record of the Patriots opponents in 2012 the games actually played againgst NE we will have their record vs the rest of the NFL.  This removes New England skewing of the stats.  If we do the same for the rest of the AFC we come up with a different and more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule.

     

     New England   .548

     NY Jets            .545

     Tennessee      .538

     Jacksonville     .529

     Miami              .522  

     

      By this more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule, the Patriots have played the toughest schedule in the AFC. Only Houston has depressed their Strength of Schedule more than the Patriots.  Their SOS of .462, compared to Pats .524, is not nearly offset by the extra win. 

      If we go beyond the AFC with this more accurate measure, only one team has played a toughter schedule than NE.  That team is the Arizona Cardinals with an opponents win pct. of .551 when not playing them as compared to the Patriots mark of .548.  The Patriots play the 9-3-1 49ers this weekend and the Cardinals play the 4-9 Lions. 

      After 13 games, New England has played the second toughest schedule in the NFL.  2011 is completely irrelevant.  After 14 games NE appears poised to have played the toughest schedule in the league.

     

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    come on stop with all this fantasy football sabremetrics crap and look with ur eyes and whats going on on the field

    the afc east is bad - not good teams playing bad but bad- and the pats play three real games: texans, 49ers and ravens with 2 of 3 at home -not their fault its just the way it fell out  but to twist things to not only deny this but actually say the pats have the hardest schedule is fall down funny...come on!

    last year i bet u used this same bit of silliness to justify that schedule which was also not exactly the hardest...winning pct means nothing to how hard a schedule is: it's who you play and who they played to get that record and when and where you play-we all know the saints are 5-8 but can still be dangerous b/c they have talent and are a good team playing bad-not a bad team-big difference that doesn't figure into computer stats

    pats are good-really good probably-and may have had similar success against a tough schedule-but this years sure ain't it

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      The facts are the facts troll loser.  Jibberish doesn't change that.

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    uh huh...u know just what i am talking about

    well good luck to the patsies the rest of the way-we'll see where it all leads

    btw didn't you mean hardest in ur title? freudian slip i guess

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      Apparently you are the one with "hardest" on your mind Jintsboy.  Perhaps you should keep your personal issues to yourself.

     
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    uh huh...u know just what i am talking about

    well good luck to the patsies the rest of the way-we'll see where it all leads

    btw didn't you mean hardest in ur title? freudian slip i guess

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    AFC east has just as many wins as the sorry NFC east at 26.  The difference is the Giants haven't beaten their own division opponents like the Patriots have.  The only difference between the Cowboys and Eagles and the Bills and Dolphins is those teams come from larger markets full of hype. 

    And you forgot Denver, so the Patriots have played all the division winners in the AFC and are about to play the top team in the NFC. 

     
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    uh huh...u know just what i am talking about

    well good luck to the patsies the rest of the way-we'll see where it all leads

    btw didn't you mean hardest in ur title? freudian slip i guess

    [/]

    AFC east has just as many wins as the sorry NFC east.  The difference is the Giants haven't beaten their own division opponents like the Patriots have.  The only difference between the Cowboys and Eagles and the Bills and Dolphins is those teams come from larger markets full of hype.  Kind of like when I explained to you how New Yorkers think Hurricane Sandy killing 85 people was the deadliest Hurricane in the world because it happenned in NY while they've never heard of Hurricane Jeanne killing over 3,000. 

    And you forgot Denver, so the Patriots have played all the division winners in the AFC and are about to play the top team in the NFC. 

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      Contrary to preseason estimates, the Giants Strength of Schedule is .500(Patriots .524).  When the Giants effect on that is eliminated, the win pct. increases to .509.  Far easier than the Patriots .548.

     
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    uh huh...u know just what i am talking about

    well good luck to the patsies the rest of the way-we'll see where it all leads

    btw didn't you mean hardest in ur title? freudian slip i guess

    [/]

    AFC east has just as many wins as the sorry NFC east.  The difference is the Giants haven't beaten their own division opponents like the Patriots have.  The only difference between the Cowboys and Eagles and the Bills and Dolphins is those teams come from larger markets full of hype.  Kind of like when I explained to you how New Yorkers think Hurricane Sandy killing 85 people was the deadliest Hurricane in the world because it happenned in NY while they've never heard of Hurricane Jeanne killing over 3,000. 

    And you forgot Denver, so the Patriots have played all the division winners in the AFC and are about to play the top team in the NFC. 

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      Contrary to preseason estimates, the Giants Strength of Schedule is .500(Patriots .524).  When the Giants effect on that is eliminated, the win pct. increases to .509.  Far easier than the Patriots .548.

     
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      It was widely reported that the Patriots would play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012.  This of course was based on the scheduled opponents during the 2011 season.  These opponents had a 116- 140 record, .453 win pct., record  in 2011.

     

      Now that every team has played 13 games, we have enough data to ask this question- Did the Patriots really play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012?

     

      The records of the Patriots opponents in 2011 have no relevance  when measured against our opponents records in 2012.

      The NFL Standings on ESPN list the Strength of Schedule for each team.  This number is based on the overall record of each opponent played in 2012.

     

      By this measure the Patriots are 5th in the AFC and 11th overall.

               AFC                                          NFC

     Jacksonville    .553                   Arizona            .562

     Tennessee     .550                   Detroit             .553

     NY Jets           .544                   Carolina .         .547

     Miami             .529                   Washington     .529

     New England .524                   St. Louis           .527

                                                     New Orleans    .526       

     

      Strength of Schedule is used by the NFL as a tiebreaker.  In that scenario, two teams with equal records are being compared.  When comparing teams with different records Strength of Schedule is skewed.  Teams with losing records make their strength of schedule greater and conversely teams with winning records decrease their strength of schedule. *(NY Jets being the odd exception-opponents record vs Jets 7-6, Opponents record otherwise slightly better than .538)

     

    The records of the Jaguars opponents, for example, are somewhat elevated by having the benefit of playing 13 games vs them .  The records  of the Patriots opponents are somewhat depressed by having played 13 games vs them.

     

      If we eliminate the from the record of the Patriots opponents in 2012 the games actually played againgst NE we will have their record vs the rest of the NFL.  This removes New England skewing of the stats.  If we do the same for the rest of the AFC we come up with a different and more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule.

     

     New England   .548

     NY Jets            .545

     Tennessee      .538

     Jacksonville     .529

     Miami              .522  

     

      By this more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule, the Patriots have played the toughest schedule in the AFC. Only Houston has depressed their Strength of Schedule more than the Patriots.  Their SOS of .462, compared to Pats .524, is not nearly offset by the extra win. 

      If we go beyond the AFC with this more accurate measure, only one team has played a toughter schedule than NE.  That team is the Arizona Cardinals with an opponents win pct. of .551 when not playing them as compared to the Patriots mark of .548.  The Patriots play the 9-3-1 49ers this weekend and the Cardinals play the 4-9 Lions. 

      After 13 games, New England has played the second toughest schedule in the NFL.  2011 is completely irrelevant.  After 14 games NE appears poised to have played the toughest schedule in the league.

     

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    come on stop with all this fantasy football sabremetrics crap and look with ur eyes and whats going on on the field

    the afc east is bad - not good teams playing bad but bad- and the pats play three real games: texans, 49ers and ravens with 2 of 3 at home -not their fault its just the way it fell out  but to twist things to not only deny this but actually say the pats have the hardest schedule is fall down funny...come on!

    last year i bet u used this same bit of silliness to justify that schedule which was also not exactly the hardest...winning pct means nothing to how hard a schedule is: it's who you play and who they played to get that record and when and where you play-we all know the saints are 5-8 but can still be dangerous b/c they have talent and are a good team playing bad-not a bad team-big difference that doesn't figure into computer stats

    pats are good-really good probably-and may have had similar success against a tough schedule-but this years sure ain't it

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    Combined records of AFC East: 26-26

    Combined records of NFC East: 26-27

     

    Never let the truth stand in the way of your opinion, jints. The AFC East and NFC East are both mediocre.

     
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      It was widely reported that the Patriots would play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012.  This of course was based on the scheduled opponents during the 2011 season.  These opponents had a 116- 140 record, .453 win pct., record  in 2011.  Houston is also better so far.

     

      Now that every team has played 13 games, we have enough data to ask this question- Did the Patriots really play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012?

     

      The records of the Patriots opponents in 2011 have no relevance  when measured against our opponents records in 2012.

      The NFL Standings on ESPN list the Strength of Schedule for each team.  This number is based on the overall record of each opponent played in 2012.

     

      By this measure the Patriots are 5th in the AFC and 11th overall.

               AFC                                          NFC

     Jacksonville    .553                   Arizona            .562

     Tennessee     .550                   Detroit             .553

     NY Jets           .544                   Carolina .         .547

     Miami             .529                   Washington     .529

     New England .524                   St. Louis           .527

                                                     New Orleans    .526       

     

      Strength of Schedule is used by the NFL as a tiebreaker.  In that scenario, two teams with equal records are being compared.  When comparing teams with different records Strength of Schedule is skewed.  Teams with losing records make their strength of schedule greater and conversely teams with winning records decrease their strength of schedule. *(NY Jets being the odd exception-opponents record vs Jets 7-6, Opponents record otherwise slightly better than .538)

     

    The records of the Jaguars opponents, for example, are somewhat elevated by having the benefit of playing 13 games vs them .  The records  of the Patriots opponents are somewhat depressed by having played 13 games vs them.

     

      If we eliminate the from the record of the Patriots opponents in 2012 the games actually played againgst NE we will have their record vs the rest of the NFL.  This removes New England skewing of the stats.  If we do the same for the rest of the AFC we come up with a different and more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule.

     

     New England   .548

     NY Jets            .545

     Tennessee      .538

     Jacksonville     .529

     Miami              .522  

     

      By this more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule, the Patriots have played the toughest schedule in the AFC. Only Houston has depressed their Strength of Schedule more than the Patriots.  Their SOS of .462, compared to Pats .524, is not nearly offset by the extra win. 

      If we go beyond the AFC with this more accurate measure, only one team has played a toughter schedule than NE.  That team is the Arizona Cardinals with an opponents win pct. of .551 when not playing them as compared to the Patriots mark of .548.  The Patriots play the 9-3-1 49ers this weekend and the Cardinals play the 4-9 Lions. 

      After 13 games, New England has played the second toughest schedule in the NFL.  2011 is completely irrelevant.  After 14 games NE appears poised to have played the toughest schedule in the league.

     

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    come on stop with all this fantasy football sabremetrics crap and look with ur eyes and whats going on on the field

    the afc east is bad - not good teams playing bad but bad- and the pats play three real games: texans, 49ers and ravens with 2 of 3 at home -not their fault its just the way it fell out  but to twist things to not only deny this but actually say the pats have the hardest schedule is fall down funny...come on!

    last year i bet u used this same bit of silliness to justify that schedule which was also not exactly the hardest...winning pct means nothing to how hard a schedule is: it's who you play and who they played to get that record and when and where you play-we all know the saints are 5-8 but can still be dangerous b/c they have talent and are a good team playing bad-not a bad team-big difference that doesn't figure into computer stats

    pats are good-really good probably-and may have had similar success against a tough schedule-but this years sure ain't it

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    Combined records of AFC East: 26-26

    Combined records of NFC East: 26-27

     

    Never let the truth stand in the way of your opinion, jints. The AFC East and NFC East are both mediocre.

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      Miami, Buffalo and NYJets are 16-18 when not playing the Patriots.  Philly, Washington and Dallas are 15-20 when not playing the Giants.  NE's actual strength of schedule over 2011 irrelevant projection, is greatly increased by better records from NFC West opponents, Denver and Indy.

     
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      It was widely reported that the Patriots would play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012.  This of course was based on the scheduled opponents records during the 2011 season.  These opponents had a 116- 140 record, .453 win pct., record  in 2011.

     

      Now that every team has played 13 games, we have enough data to ask this question- Did the Patriots really play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012?

     

      The records of the Patriots opponents in 2011 have no relevance  when measured against our opponents records in 2012.

      The NFL Standings on ESPN list the Strength of Schedule for each team.  This number is based on the overall record of each opponent played in 2012.

     

      By this measure the Patriots are 5th in the AFC and 11th overall.

               AFC                                          NFC

     Jacksonville    .553                   Arizona            .562

     Tennessee     .550                   Detroit             .553

     NY Jets           .544                   Carolina .         .547

     Miami             .529                   Washington     .529

     New England .524                   St. Louis           .527

                                                     New Orleans    .526       

     

      Strength of Schedule is used by the NFL as a tiebreaker.  In that scenario, two teams with equal records are being compared.  When comparing teams with different records Strength of Schedule is skewed.  Teams with losing records make their strength of schedule greater and conversely teams with winning records decrease their strength of schedule. *(NY Jets being the odd exception-opponents record vs Jets 7-6, Opponents record otherwise slightly better than .538)

     

    The records of the Jaguars opponents,, for example, are somewhat elevated by having the benefit of playing 13 games vs them(11-2) .  The records  of the Patriots opponents, are somewhat depressed by having played 13 games vs them(3-10).

     

      If we eliminate the from the record of the Patriots opponents in 2012 the games actually played againgst NE we will have their record vs the rest of the NFL.  This removes New England skewing of the stats.  If we do the same for the rest of the AFC we come up with a different and more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule.

     

     New England   .548

     NY Jets            .545

     Tennessee      .538

     Jacksonville     .529

     Miami              .522  

     

      By this more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule, the Patriots have played the toughest schedule in the AFC. Only Houston has depressed their Strength of Schedule more than the Patriots.  Their SOS of .462, compared to Pats .524, is not nearly offset by the extra win. 

      If we go beyond the AFC with this more accurate measure, only one team has played a tougher schedule than NE.  That team is the Arizona Cardinals with an opponents win pct. of .551 when not playing them as compared to the Patriots mark of .548.  The Patriots play the 9-3-1 49ers this weekend and the Cardinals play the 4-9 Lions. 

      After 13 games, New England has played the second toughest schedule in the NFL.  2011 is completely irrelevant.  After 14 games NE appears poised to have played the toughest schedule in the league.

     

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    Good job. So they have been tested. Sunday will be more of the same.

     
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    Another myth being accepted as truth is that the NFC is superior to the AFC. Since starting 19-9 against the AFC, the NFC has gone 12-14 against them, including 4-0 last week with come from behind wins by the Cowboys, Redskins and Rams.

    Edit: Make that 12-15. I didn't count Thursday's game.

     
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    yeah Gints we have had a cakewalks schedule; Houston last week, SF this week....

     
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    I find it best to only include specific games when calculating such thing.  Monday and Thursday games don't count.  Odd number Sundays in November don't count and any time you lose to a bad team, that doesn't count.

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    What about getting humiliated on national television on one of the biggest holidays of the year?  Does that count for 2 losses or does it not count at all?

    How about a fumble stemming from getting close-lined by your own teammate's azz?  Does that count as two fumbles, or is it just considered an anomaly?

     
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    I find it best to only include specific games when calculating such thing.  Monday and Thursday games don't count.  Odd number Sundays in November don't count and any time you lose to a bad team, that doesn't count.

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    Happy 44th loser!

     
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    Re: Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close

    In response to JintsFan's comment:
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    uh huh...u know just what i am talking about

    well good luck to the patsies the rest of the way-we'll see where it all leads

    btw didn't you mean hardest in ur title? freudian slip i guess

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    Same to E-Lie and the Gi Aint's

     
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    Re: Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close

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      It was widely reported that the Patriots would play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012.  This of course was based on the scheduled opponents records during the 2011 season.  These opponents had a 116- 140 record, .453 win pct., record  in 2011.

     

      Now that every team has played 13 games, we have enough data to ask this question- Did the Patriots really play the easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012?

     

      The records of the Patriots opponents in 2011 have no relevance  when measured against our opponents records in 2012.

      The NFL Standings on ESPN list the Strength of Schedule for each team.  This number is based on the overall record of each opponent played in 2012.

     

      By this measure the Patriots are 5th in the AFC and 11th overall.

               AFC                                          NFC

     Jacksonville    .553                   Arizona            .562

     Tennessee     .550                   Detroit             .553

     NY Jets           .544                   Carolina .         .547

     Miami             .529                   Washington     .529

     New England .524                   St. Louis           .527

                                                     New Orleans    .526       

     

      Strength of Schedule is used by the NFL as a tiebreaker.  In that scenario, two teams with equal records are being compared.  When comparing teams with different records Strength of Schedule is skewed.  Teams with losing records make their strength of schedule greater and conversely teams with winning records decrease their strength of schedule. *(NY Jets being the odd exception-opponents record vs Jets 7-6, Opponents record otherwise slightly better than .538)

     

    The records of the Jaguars opponents,, for example, are somewhat elevated by having the benefit of playing 13 games vs them(11-2) .  The records  of the Patriots opponents, are somewhat depressed by having played 13 games vs them(3-10).

     

      If we eliminate the from the record of the Patriots opponents in 2012 the games actually played againgst NE we will have their record vs the rest of the NFL.  This removes New England skewing of the stats.  If we do the same for the rest of the AFC we come up with a different and more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule.

     

     New England   .548

     NY Jets            .545

     Tennessee      .538

     Jacksonville     .529

     Miami              .522  

     

      By this more accurate measure of Strength of Schedule, the Patriots have played the toughest schedule in the AFC. Only Houston has depressed their Strength of Schedule more than the Patriots.  Their SOS of .462, compared to Pats .524, is not nearly offset by the extra win. 

      If we go beyond the AFC with this more accurate measure, only one team has played a tougher schedule than NE.  That team is the Arizona Cardinals with an opponents win pct. of .551 when not playing them as compared to the Patriots mark of .548.  The Patriots play the 9-3-1 49ers this weekend and the Cardinals play the 4-9 Lions. 

      After 13 games, New England has played the second toughest schedule in the NFL.  2011 is completely irrelevant.  After 14 games NE appears poised to have played the toughest schedule in the league.

     

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    Great reserach. This should shut jersey jints mouth.

     
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    Re: Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close


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     Stats are mostly a joke!  you can skew them to support just about any argument you want.   Completely irrelevent post that means absolutely nothing.  Who gives a @$#@ Professor?

     
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    Re: Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close

    It's pretty rare for a schedule to actually play out as easy or difficult as it looks when it is drawn up a year in advance.  The combination of wide-spread free agency and rookies have earlier impacts seems to change the landscape quickly these days.  To me, as of right now, next year's schedule looks pretty tough.  However, it wouldn't shock me if it actually plays out a little easier than expected.  We shall see...

     
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    Re: Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close

    In response to BannedOnTheRun--1918's comment:
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    All I can say is I wish my team got to play the fins, bills and jests 6 times a year, year after year.

    That's like 5-6 automatic wins every year.

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    you pretty much have the same teams, the beagles, cowgirls, and skins

     
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    Re: Patriots to play easiest schedule in the NFL in 2012-Not even close

    In response to BannedOnTheRun--1918's comment:
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    All I can say is I wish my team got to play the fins, bills and jests 6 times a year, year after year.

    That's like 5-6 automatic wins every year.

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      Over the last ten years, including this one, the Patriots are 48-11, .814, in their division.  Outside the division, New England is 76-22,.776.


      Most years the Patriots have played a first place schedule and still won 78% of non-division games compared to 81% in the division.

     

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