Pats D Already Being Disrespected

  1. This post has been removed.

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from agcsbill. Show agcsbill's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    It's called perspective, Bustchise.  Look at how the comments are coming out about Denver compared to the Pats of the last couple years as it relates to their respective offenses.  All the talk about Denver this season is Manning this, Manning that, record pace..yada yada yada and not much else with some talk about the Denver D being "suspect".  But, when the Patriots were in the discussion the last couple seasons, it was brought up signifcantly how lowly the D was.  It was as if the press was fully engaged to diminish the Patriots because of such a lowly ranked D yet they do not mention other Ds are worse.  Just sayin'.

    AGCSBill, just a fan havin' fun!!

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from PatsLifer. Show PatsLifer's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    Who care what the analysts say. They don't control game outcomes. The coaches and players do. Frankly I like sitting under the radar...or as you say, lying in the weeds.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from TexasPat. Show TexasPat's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

    Who care what the analysts say. They don't control game outcomes. The coaches and players do. Frankly I like sitting under the radar...or as you say, lying in the weeds.



         If the Pats can hang in there in spite of all their injury problems, they'll be a much better team in December.

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from cyncalpatfan. Show cyncalpatfan's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

    Who care what the analysts say. They don't control game outcomes. The coaches and players do. Frankly I like sitting under the radar...or as you say, lying in the weeds.




    +1

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from cyncalpatfan. Show cyncalpatfan's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to TexasPat's comment:

    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

     

    Who care what the analysts say. They don't control game outcomes. The coaches and players do. Frankly I like sitting under the radar...or as you say, lying in the weeds.

     



         If the Pats can hang in there in spite of all their injury problems, they'll be a much better team in December.

     




    +1

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from rkarp. Show rkarp's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to TexasPat's comment:

    In response to PatsLifer's comment:
    [QUOTE]

     

    Who care what the analysts say. They don't control game outcomes. The coaches and players do. Frankly I like sitting under the radar...or as you say, lying in the weeds.

     



         If the Pats can hang in there in spite of all their injury problems, they'll be a much better team in December.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    TP, throw it out there. What's the Pats record going to be after the Denver game?

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from anonymis. Show anonymis's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    ?

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from joepatsfan111111. Show joepatsfan111111's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

     

    I agree the D is top 5 in the league. Overall the front 7 is redic and the secondary has come to play this year. I don't think the D has been disrespected. People are waiting to see if they can play to this level against Brees and Manning. and if we can they will be praising us to the high heavens!

     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from Uncle Rico. Show Uncle Rico's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    Matt Ryan did have a career day against them, I am afraid what the Saints will do to them this week.  But I do like how the defense has played in the first few weeks, but we now have Vince gone, Who knows about Kelly, Arrignton was burned in back to back 20+ yard plays against the Falcons, while there is a lot to like there are now a lot of ?'s too.  We need a good rush against the Saints or Brees is going to tear it up with a 500+ passing day.

    **

    Back in '82, I used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

    How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?... Yeah... Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fletcherbrook. Show Fletcherbrook's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Bustchise's comment:

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    NE is 3rd in the AFC in turnovers (10 combined with 2 fumbles not recovered), 5th in the NFL out of the gate, with a low rated offense not doing anything so far to help them out.

    Meanwhile, the Saints offense is very good and their D is not as good as ours, but being heralded as some kind of a superior defense due to the Rob Ryan/Ryan Family hype.

    I don't really care other than pointing out how the media made a daily announcement of the Pats "31st ranked" D in 2011 all year long, while ignoring the worse GB Packers D. The hypocrisy of it all cand deep rooted anti-BB infused bias cannot be ignored here.

    I would argue, NE fields the youngest, most experienced and best D in the entire NFL.

    Now, in 2013 with Denver's D letting up 48 points to Tony Romo, being arguably the worst pass D the NFL has seen in decades, BB's top flight D so far is being completely ignored.

    Also, the Saints give up points in the red zone at a 61% clip, which is flat out, not good defesne at all. Rob Ryan can't just blitz unsuspecting QBs all year long like that. Of course, Rob Ryan does this every year.  LOL - Gets his D all wired in the first 6 weeks and then he runs out of gas and bullets with more intelligent coaches exposing his defenses. Cleveland, Raiders, Cowboys...Really doesn't matter. Same thing every year.  Overrrated because his Ds aren't exotic and versatile.  They're one dimensional.

    NOs has gotten some breaks so far playing weaker offenses (as have we in the first 3 games), but our D is clearly superior with the media simply not talking about it whatsoever.

    2nd in points allowed in the NFL.  Last time I checked, that's always been the #1 category for me.  And, that is WITHOUT any sustainable offense yet.

     

     



    This just in Queenie, Matt Ryan threw for 420 yards against that great pass D, TG had 150 yards receiving with patsies draped all over him and the team is allowing more than 4 YPC in the run game (20th in the NFL) and hasn't faced a top 10 offense yet.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Bingo. Let's see how they play against another real NFL caliber offense. Did OK against Atlanta. 

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from BabeParilli. Show BabeParilli's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    NE is 3rd in the AFC in turnovers (10 combined with 2 fumbles not recovered), 5th in the NFL out of the gate, with a low rated offense not doing anything so far to help them out.



    I find it hilarious that when the offense was top rated, never a word from your dumb yap was belched saying how that was making the D look better than they actually were.

     

    You're a phoney lying cherry picking MEGATOOL!

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from joepatsfan111111. Show joepatsfan111111's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    In response to joepatsfan111111's comment:
    [QUOTE]

     

     

    I agree the D is top 5 in the league. Overall the front 7 is redic and the secondary has come to play this year. I don't think the D has been disrespected. People are waiting to see if they can play to this level against Brees and Manning. and if we can they will be praising us to the high heavens!

     



    Denver hadn't played anyone until Dallas and Romo. And that's not even a top 5 kind of an offense. Miles Austin has a hammy.  

     

    Denver's D allowed 48 points and we have not heard a word about their putrid D last year or now this year.

    Funny huh?  Actually, it's not funny. The media hates BB and over-dramatized our Ds from 2010-2012, as young as they were during a rebuild on the fly and off a lockout, and now they don't use the same fair and objective analysis on our D.

    Further, the focus is on the offense this year, where again, the media focuses on BB the GM ignoring the D's ascent. 

    So, they've switched agends now.  See?

    It's why we have trolls like Pezzy, Mt Hurl, Babe, etc, here, too. They allow themselves to be brainwashed by this media and then come here to spew the propaganda to destroy the fans' experience here.

    They also enable our resident Jets troll to do what he does under his myriad of Pats fan posuer names like you see above with 'Uncle Rico'.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    that is very true. but thats what happens when a coach creates the best franchise in the league for a sustained time over ten years the media will nitpick on every little thing possible. its not BB and the Pats fault they are so good and have so many jealous people who wish they were fans of such a great franchise. the media just likes to create contraversy among the best to get moore listens/views and what not.

     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from Uncle Rico. Show Uncle Rico's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    In response to Uncle Rico's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    Matt Ryan did have a career day against them, I am afraid what the Saints will do to them this week.  But I do like how the defense has played in the first few weeks, but we now have Vince gone, Who knows about Kelly, Arrignton was burned in back to back 20+ yard plays against the Falcons, while there is a lot to like there are now a lot of ?'s too.  We need a good rush against the Saints or Brees is going to tear it up with a 500+ passing day.

    **

    Back in '82, I used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

    How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?... Yeah... Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.

     



    Nice try, Bustchise.  Our QB fumbled a snap and our cut TE, ironically now on your crappy team also fumbled an onside kick.

     

    Our D had allowed 13 points up to those two spots in the game.

    YOURS allowed 28 points with an injured WHite and Jones. IN fact, White has 50 yards receiving and Jones almost 100 with 9 receptions.

    Our gameplan consisted of containing Snelling and Rogers, something your team didn't do at all (Rodgers 50 yards on limited carries and TWO TDs) and taking away both White and Jones.

    See, your CBs, Safeties and LBs absolutely BLOW in coverage and ours don't.

    Good thing Geno Smith didn't turn it over, because you give up 40+ if he does. That and good thing White and Jones were hurt.

    [/QUOTE]


    What is all this nonsense.  Did Matt Ryan have a career passing day vs the Patriots or not?  Yes we won, but that is not a good sign when we are staring the Saints in the face. Agree or disagree?

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from CubanPete. Show CubanPete's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    Drew Brees vs the Patriots

    09/29/2002: NE 14 @ SD 21  Brees: 4th career start, 10/18 104 1/0 (52-yd TD pass)

    10/02/2005: SD 41 @ NE 17  Brees: 19/24 248 2/0 (Matt Cassel's 1st Regular Season appearance)

    11/30/2009: NE 17 @ NO 38  Brees: 18/23 371 5/0 (MNF game - DC Dean Pees relieved of playcalling duties, Saints would go on to win 1st SB in franchise history)

    Disrespect is always earned on the gridiron. I suspect the Pats will be thoroughly dissed by Brees and his bevy of weapons this Sunday. The Pats D isn't that good. Their pass rush still sucks, the LBs can't cover, Talib and McCourty are fine, but Gregory (who BB tried to replace but failed) and Arrington (the human chain-moving machine) can be exploited, as Andy Daulton finally figured out late in the game.

    ...the King of the Rumba Beat...

     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from BabeParilli. Show BabeParilli's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    He only drove his team down the field for two FGs and 1 TD before we gifted two short fields for them for no reason.

     

    13 points should not be a "career day" for a QB.

     

     


    Right dumbkoff, 400+ yards and 2 TDs is actually fabulous defense, not a prodigious passing day. LMAO@U Learn the game you rube.

     

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from patriotrain. Show patriotrain's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected


    what are you all going to say if brees lights up the field this week?

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from PatsLifer. Show PatsLifer's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    He will say it was Brady's fault because we didn't run the ball as much and instead played in shotgun spread. And, if we do run the ball, are effective and still lose, it will be because Brady didn't throw well and was thinking about balling welker in Costa Rica. Bottomline, regardless of what happens, or wins, or how they win or lose, it will be bradys fault.

     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from PatsLifer. Show PatsLifer's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    In response to CubanPete's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    Drew Brees vs the Patriots

    09/29/2002: NE 14 @ SD 21  Brees: 4th career start, 10/18 104 1/0 (52-yd TD pass)

    10/02/2005: SD 41 @ NE 17  Brees: 19/24 248 2/0 (Matt Cassel's 1st Regular Season appearance)

    11/30/2009: NE 17 @ NO 38  Brees: 18/23 371 5/0 (MNF game - DC Dean Pees relieved of playcalling duties, Saints would go on to win 1st SB in franchise history)

    Disrespect is always earned on the gridiron. I suspect the Pats will be thoroughly dissed by Brees and his bevy of weapons this Sunday. The Pats D isn't that good. Their pass rush still sucks, the LBs can't cover, Talib and McCourty are fine, but Gregory (who BB tried to replace but failed) and Arrington (the human chain-moving machine) can be exploited, as Andy Daulton finally figured out late in the game.

    ...the King of the Rumba Beat...

     



    You are a troll, so no one takes anything you say seriously.  Our pass rush sucks? Our starting 4-3 DT already has like 5 sacks on the year in 5 games.

     

    Jones is double teamed now, whis is a good thing and 7th rd pick Buchanan has been very good in subpackages.

    Those are the facts.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Ah yes. I don't know where we rank in sacks or hurries but it ain't at the top. Buchannon has been adequate. A lot better than busted third round pick jake the snake baguette. 

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from agcsbill. Show agcsbill's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    That 2009 game for NO.. the team was undefeated and high as a kite.  The dome was rocking! A playoff atmosphere and an opportunity for the Saints to show the country they were for real.  Pats didn't have a chance!

    AGCSBill, just a fan havin' fun!!

     
  21. You have chosen to ignore posts from PatsLifer. Show PatsLifer's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    In response to PatsLifer's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    He will say it was Brady's fault because we didn't run the ball as much and instead played in shotgun spread. And, if we do run the ball, are effective and still lose, it will be because Brady didn't throw well and was thinking about balling welker in Costa Rica. Bottomline, regardless of what happens, or wins, or how they win or lose, it will be bradys fault.

     



    No, it won't. But, if Brady sucks, fumbles snaps, he will be a big reason which means you as BBW and a lubed Brady doll sitting next to you 24 hours a day, should try admitting that.

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Fair. If Brady sucks I will say so like I said he had a bad game last game less the monsoon drive.

    will you admit on this board if the defense blows this week? Only fair , right?

     

     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from PatsLifer. Show PatsLifer's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to agcsbill's comment:

    That 2009 game for NO.. the team was undefeated and high as a kite.  The dome was rocking! A playoff atmosphere and an opportunity for the Saints to show the country they were for real.  Pats didn't have a chance!

    AGCSBill, just a fan havin' fun!!



    Agree, but looking at past years against the same team, especially from 4 years ago is worthless with so many new faces. TE pats d is much improved and the pats o is probably about the same or worse than 2009.

     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from Uncle Rico. Show Uncle Rico's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    In response to Uncle Rico's comment:

     

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

     

     

     

    In response to Uncle Rico's comment:

     

     

     

     

     

    Matt Ryan did have a career day against them, I am afraid what the Saints will do to them this week.  But I do like how the defense has played in the first few weeks, but we now have Vince gone, Who knows about Kelly, Arrignton was burned in back to back 20+ yard plays against the Falcons, while there is a lot to like there are now a lot of ?'s too.  We need a good rush against the Saints or Brees is going to tear it up with a 500+ passing day.

    **

    Back in '82, I used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter mile.

    How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?... Yeah... Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.

     

     

     



    Nice try, Bustchise.  Our QB fumbled a snap and our cut TE, ironically now on your crappy team also fumbled an onside kick.

     

     

     

    Our D had allowed 13 points up to those two spots in the game.

    YOURS allowed 28 points with an injured WHite and Jones. IN fact, White has 50 yards receiving and Jones almost 100 with 9 receptions.

    Our gameplan consisted of containing Snelling and Rogers, something your team didn't do at all (Rodgers 50 yards on limited carries and TWO TDs) and taking away both White and Jones.

    See, your CBs, Safeties and LBs absolutely BLOW in coverage and ours don't.

    Good thing Geno Smith didn't turn it over, because you give up 40+ if he does. That and good thing White and Jones were hurt.

     

     




    What is all this nonsense.  Did Matt Ryan have a career passing day vs the Patriots or not?  Yes we won, but that is not a good sign when we are staring the Saints in the face. Agree or disagree?

     

     

     



    No, he did not, Bustchise.  He only drove his team down the field for two FGs and 1 TD before we gifted two short fields for them for no reason.

     

    13 points should not be a "career day" for a QB.

    We watched the game. We saw it.  We also saw the game on Thanksgiving where Sanchez was awful trying to kill himself inside Brandon Moore's rectum. But, hey at least Sanchez featured a 94 QBR, right?

    "Rectum, Damn near killed em" has a whole new meaning, huh?

     




    I think 34 of 54 for 421 yards and 2 td's was a career passing high for Matt Ryan.  Once again, are you saying it isn't?

    Why do you keep bringing up the Jets? I don't care about the jets.  I am not Bustchise, you look like a fool calling me him when in fact I am not him.  Looks to me like that fits all your other posts.  Nothing from you is true, is it!  Very interesting how he is in your head. He has really got to you. 

     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from patriotrain. Show patriotrain's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected

    In response to agcsbill's comment:

    That 2009 game for NO.. the team was undefeated and high as a kite.  The dome was rocking! A playoff atmosphere and an opportunity for the Saints to show the country they were for real.  Pats didn't have a chance!

    AGCSBill, just a fan havin' fun!!



    i'm not very confident of a win now, pats have done nothing this year thats very impressive.

     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from cyncalpatfan. Show cyncalpatfan's posts

    Re: Pats D Already Being Disrespected




    What is all this nonsense.  Did Matt Ryan have a career passing day vs the Patriots or not?  Yes we won, but that is not a good sign when we are staring the Saints in the face. Agree or disagree?

     

    [/QUOTE]


    I'm surprised to hear that he had a career passing day.  I watched that game and had no idea.  I guess that goes to show you how misleading stats can be.  The fact is, that game was in the bag, until the last few minutes, when a couple of unusual breaks went the Falcons' way.  Even then, the defense managed to get it done.  I think they will be ready for the Saints.

     
Sections
Shortcuts

Share