Pats D Already Being Disrespected

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    Turnovers are overrated, as we have found out due to our D's inability to force them when it counts during recentl playoffs and Super Bowls. 

    New Orleans has played and beaten better teams than we have and are deserving of more respect than us. 

    "I would argue, NE fields the youngest, most experienced and best D in the entire NFL."

    ha ha ha awesome. Meantime if Talib slips on a banana peel all the dominos fall. 

    I love how our D is playing so far and it's clearly a good D. I could care less about the respect factor. When the season is over we'll have our respect - or not. As it should be. What the pundits say from week to week is not a concern. 

    I'll feel better about our D if we can shut down Drew Brees. I'm not expecting miracles but 20 points or a bit more would be fine by me at htis point given how recently Wilfork went down...

         
     
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    I agree the D is top 5 in the league. Overall the front 7 is redic and the secondary has come to play this year. I don't think the D has been disrespected. People are waiting to see if they can play to this level against Brees and Manning. and if we can they will be praising us to the high heavens!

     

     

     



    Denver hadn't played anyone until Dallas and Romo. And that's not even a top 5 kind of an offense. Miles Austin has a hammy.  

     

     

     

    Denver's D allowed 48 points and we have not heard a word about their putrid D last year or now this year.

    Funny huh?  Actually, it's not funny. The media hates BB and over-dramatized our Ds from 2010-2012, as young as they were during a rebuild on the fly and off a lockout, and now they don't use the same fair and objective analysis on our D.

    Further, the focus is on the offense this year, where again, the media focuses on BB the GM ignoring the D's ascent. 

    So, they've switched agends now.  See?

    It's why we have trolls like Pezzy, Mt Hurl, Babe, etc, here, too. They allow themselves to be brainwashed by this media and then come here to spew the propaganda to destroy the fans' experience here.

    They also enable our resident Jets troll to do what he does under his myriad of Pats fan posuer names like you see above with 'Uncle Rico'.

     

     

     



    that is very true. but thats what happens when a coach creates the best franchise in the league for a sustained time over ten years the media will nitpick on every little thing possible. its not BB and the Pats fault they are so good and have so many jealous people who wish they were fans of such a great franchise. the media just likes to create contraversy among the best to get moore listens/views and what not.

     

     

     



    That's only really fair to a point.

     

    I don't think premises like "BB needs to resign as GM" or "We need a new GM state!" is "nitpicking".

    That's mental illness being showcases by a pocket of fans who clearly have things wrong in their lives off this board.

    Meanwhile, in reality, our supposed GOAT QB is not doing our TEAM any favors in playoff games, SBs or this past Sunday.

    So, until they address that issue, they don't have a leg to stand on here.



    In Bill We Trust, Rusty. and i know im not saying fire BB as GM. I do think he hasnt made the best decisions offensively. and i also agree brady isnt himself right now. but let them hate, we're 4-1 and only getting better. brady will figure it out and we can make a SB run

     
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    Explain what this mean, please:

     

    "I do think he hasnt made the best decisions offensively."

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    sh!t my bad, i wasnt paying attention... i meant, i do not think he has made the best decisions offensively.

     
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    I agree the D is top 5 in the league. Overall the front 7 is redic and the secondary has come to play this year. I don't think the D has been disrespected. People are waiting to see if they can play to this level against Brees and Manning. and if we can they will be praising us to the high heavens!

     



    Denver hadn't played anyone until Dallas and Romo. And that's not even a top 5 kind of an offense. Miles Austin has a hammy.  

     

    Denver's D allowed 48 points and we have not heard a word about their putrid D last year or now this year.

    Funny huh?  Actually, it's not funny. The media hates BB and over-dramatized our Ds from 2010-2012, as young as they were during a rebuild on the fly and off a lockout, and now they don't use the same fair and objective analysis on our D.

    Further, the focus is on the offense this year, where again, the media focuses on BB the GM ignoring the D's ascent. 

    So, they've switched agends now.  See?

    It's why we have trolls like Pezzy, Mt Hurl, Babe, etc, here, too. They allow themselves to be brainwashed by this media and then come here to spew the propaganda to destroy the fans' experience here.

    They also enable our resident Jets troll to do what he does under his myriad of Pats fan posuer names like you see above with 'Uncle Rico'.

     

    Eventually even the blind here will see. With the Defense being forced to win games while the Offense gets healthy and finds itself while maturing the newbies is a blessing in disguise. There will be critical mass somewhere around game 8. Our D will be our strength while the offense begins to operate with a more familiar effectiveness, back up to around 30+ per game. One thing for sure, by the time Denver comes to town on Week 12, the Patriots will be the best All Around team they will have faced all year BAR NONE. "CAN'T WAIT!!!"


     
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    Drew Brees vs the Patriots

    09/29/2002: NE 14 @ SD 21  Brees: 4th career start, 10/18 104 1/0 (52-yd TD pass)

    10/02/2005: SD 41 @ NE 17  Brees: 19/24 248 2/0 (Matt Cassel's 1st Regular Season appearance)

    11/30/2009: NE 17 @ NO 38  Brees: 18/23 371 5/0 (MNF game - DC Dean Pees relieved of playcalling duties, Saints would go on to win 1st SB in franchise history)

    Disrespect is always earned on the gridiron. I suspect the Pats will be thoroughly dissed by Brees and his bevy of weapons this Sunday. The Pats D isn't that good. Their pass rush still sucks, the LBs can't cover, Talib and McCourty are fine, but Gregory (who BB tried to replace but failed) and Arrington (the human chain-moving machine) can be exploited, as Andy Daulton finally figured out late in the game.

    ...the King of the Rumba Beat...

     

     



    You are a troll, so no one takes anything you say seriously.  Our pass rush sucks? Our starting 4-3 DT already has like 5 sacks on the year in 5 games.

     

     

    Jones is double teamed now, whis is a good thing and 7th rd pick Buchanan has been very good in subpackages.

    Those are the facts.

     

     

     

    According to PFF, the Pats rank 27th in pass rush grade. This involves total pressure (sacks, hits, hurries) within the number of pass rush snaps when the player is involved.

    Cumulative pass rush grades:

    Jones: -1.5 (he's been mediocre vs the run as well)

    Ninkovich: -3.9 (he's acutally been a terrific run defender since last season)

    Wilfork: -3.4 (this is why the team won't miss him all that much)

    Vellano: +0.7 in 87 pass rush snaps

    Kelly: 3.2 (tops on the team)

    Buchanan: -4.0 (that's not what you want to see from a pass rush "specialist")

    The rest of the defenders are at or around 0.0.

    Team Pass Rush Grades in games played.

    @ Buffalo -2.0

    vs NYJ -2.8

    vs TB -4.7

    @ Atlanta -2.8

    @ Cincinnati +1.1 Maybe their pass rush will improve with Wilfork out.

     
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    I just posted New Orleans as almost tied for second place in the NFL, pretty even with Seattle.  New England is down to #6.

    The Saints' main problem is that they're a dome team from a humid swamp area playing in relatively windy New England, a long trip by air.  All of that didn't affect their play too much in Chicago.  Also, Saints cornerback Jabari Greer was having an awful day last Sunday.  New England by about 4 points isn't overwhelming. It's good for New England that the Saints can't run because New England's D-line can't stop the run as well as they used to.  Armond Armstead might make the field in week 7. 

    The Saints' second problem is that Danny Amendola probably has shaken his rust off.  Gronk reportedly will play but he'll be rusty. 

     
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    NE is 3rd in the AFC in turnovers (10 combined with 2 fumbles not recovered), 5th in the NFL out of the gate, with a low rated offense not doing anything so far to help them out.

    Meanwhile, the Saints offense is very good and their D is not as good as ours, but being heralded as some kind of a superior defense due to the Rob Ryan/Ryan Family hype.

    I don't really care other than pointing out how the media made a daily announcement of the Pats "31st ranked" D in 2011 all year long, while ignoring the worse GB Packers D. The hypocrisy of it all cand deep rooted anti-BB infused bias cannot be ignored here.

    I would argue, NE fields the youngest, most experienced and best D in the entire NFL.

    Now, in 2013 with Denver's D letting up 48 points to Tony Romo, being arguably the worst pass D the NFL has seen in decades, BB's top flight D so far is being completely ignored.

    Also, the Saints give up points in the red zone at a 61% clip, which is flat out, not good defesne at all. Rob Ryan can't just blitz unsuspecting QBs all year long like that. Of course, Rob Ryan does this every year.  LOL - Gets his D all wired in the first 6 weeks and then he runs out of gas and bullets with more intelligent coaches exposing his defenses. Cleveland, Raiders, Cowboys...Really doesn't matter. Same thing every year.  Overrrated because his Ds aren't exotic and versatile.  They're one dimensional.

    NOs has gotten some breaks so far playing weaker offenses (as have we in the first 3 games), but our D is clearly superior with the media simply not talking about it whatsoever.

    2nd in points allowed in the NFL.  Last time I checked, that's always been the #1 category for me.  And, that is WITHOUT any sustainable offense yet.

     



    I didn't realize you could spell overrated with three R's...that's about all I learned from this.
    Well I also learned that you (per usual) are peeing your pants after five games...making all sorts of assumptions, etc. Typical.

     
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    I go by what I see.

     



    You are a blind fool. Your assessment of what you see, is worthless.

     
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    NE is 3rd in the AFC in turnovers (10 combined with 2 fumbles not recovered), 5th in the NFL out of the gate, with a low rated offense not doing anything so far to help them out.

    Meanwhile, the Saints offense is very good and their D is not as good as ours, but being heralded as some kind of a superior defense due to the Rob Ryan/Ryan Family hype.

    I don't really care other than pointing out how the media made a daily announcement of the Pats "31st ranked" D in 2011 all year long, while ignoring the worse GB Packers D. The hypocrisy of it all cand deep rooted anti-BB infused bias cannot be ignored here.

    I would argue, NE fields the youngest, most experienced and best D in the entire NFL.

    Now, in 2013 with Denver's D letting up 48 points to Tony Romo, being arguably the worst pass D the NFL has seen in decades, BB's top flight D so far is being completely ignored.

    Also, the Saints give up points in the red zone at a 61% clip, which is flat out, not good defesne at all. Rob Ryan can't just blitz unsuspecting QBs all year long like that. Of course, Rob Ryan does this every year.  LOL - Gets his D all wired in the first 6 weeks and then he runs out of gas and bullets with more intelligent coaches exposing his defenses. Cleveland, Raiders, Cowboys...Really doesn't matter. Same thing every year.  Overrrated because his Ds aren't exotic and versatile.  They're one dimensional.

    NOs has gotten some breaks so far playing weaker offenses (as have we in the first 3 games), but our D is clearly superior with the media simply not talking about it whatsoever.

    2nd in points allowed in the NFL.  Last time I checked, that's always been the #1 category for me.  And, that is WITHOUT any sustainable offense yet.

     

     




    Well I also learned that you (per usual) are peeing your pants after five games...making all sorts of assumptions, etc. Typical.

     



    You forgot the part where he just makes things up.

     
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    Well I offered Russ a chance to demonstrate his love for the pats but he didn't accept. I asked him to go on record saying our defense had a bad game if they do on Sunday. Instead, ignored. He will talk all day about Brady but won't man up should the defense allow Bree's to have his way. Thanks Russ, you just proved my point.

     
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    Well I offered Russ a chance to demonstrate his love for the pats but he didn't accept. I asked him to go on record saying our defense had a bad game if they do on Sunday. Instead, ignored. He will talk all day about Brady but won't man up should the defense allow Bree's to have his way. Thanks Russ, you just proved my point.

     



    What?

     



    You are quick to call out Brady sucking on every thread you post in. If the defense sucks this Sunday, are you prepared to do the same! You know, be objective in who you say sucks? I would,like to see that one posted if you are up,to it.

     

     
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    I agree the D is top 5 in the league. Overall the front 7 is redic and the secondary has come to play this year. I don't think the D has been disrespected. People are waiting to see if they can play to this level against Brees and Manning. and if we can they will be praising us to the high heavens!

     

     

     



    Denver hadn't played anyone until Dallas and Romo. And that's not even a top 5 kind of an offense. Miles Austin has a hammy.  

     

     

     

    Denver's D allowed 48 points and we have not heard a word about their putrid D last year or now this year.

    Funny huh?  Actually, it's not funny. The media hates BB and over-dramatized our Ds from 2010-2012, as young as they were during a rebuild on the fly and off a lockout, and now they don't use the same fair and objective analysis on our D.

    Further, the focus is on the offense this year, where again, the media focuses on BB the GM ignoring the D's ascent. 

    So, they've switched agends now.  See?

    It's why we have trolls like Pezzy, Mt Hurl, Babe, etc, here, too. They allow themselves to be brainwashed by this media and then come here to spew the propaganda to destroy the fans' experience here.

    They also enable our resident Jets troll to do what he does under his myriad of Pats fan posuer names like you see above with 'Uncle Rico'.

     

    Eventually even the blind here will see. With the Defense being forced to win games while the Offense gets healthy and finds itself while maturing the newbies is a blessing in disguise. There will be critical mass somewhere around game 8. Our D will be our strength while the offense begins to operate with a more familiar effectiveness, back up to around 30+ per game. One thing for sure, by the time Denver comes to town on Week 12, the Patriots will be the best All Around team they will have faced all year BAR NONE. "CAN'T WAIT!!!"


     



    I agree. I cannot wait for that Denver game.  I think the media will be eating crow in that one.

     

    Gomie will be flummoxed all game and their awful pass D will be chasing our WRs and Gronk all over the field.

     



    save, copy, fax, email, scan and memorize this post gents. I want to see how he backs away from this one. He never learns.

     
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