Pats Must Beat Houston Next Week

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         The Pats are not facing the 11-1, AFC leading Houston Texans at the most opportune time. Their injury list is long and distinguished: TE Rob Gronkowski (arm), LG Logan Mankins (ankle/shoulder/knee), RT Sebastien Vollmer (ankle/back), RG Dan Connelly (back), WR/PR Julian Edelman (foot), DE Chandler Jones (ankle)...not good. But, the Pats are playing at home, and still have the the most dynamic duo in NFL history on their side, in BB and Tom Brady. Nonetheless, they'll need to bring their "A" game to the stadium next week, if they want to beat the tough, balanced Texans. At stake is playoff seeding. If the Patriots lose to the Texans, you can just about kiss away any hope of New England earning a playoff bye. 

         The Pats finally caught a break last Sunday, when the Charlie Batch led Pittsburgh Steelers upset the Baltimore Ravens. With a win over Houston, the Pats remaining games are against SF at home, Jacksonville on the road, and Miami, at home.

         Meanwhile, the Texans will finish with back to back home games against Luck led Indy, and the Vikings, before finishing the season at Indy. The Ravens have the toughest road remaining, with games @ Washington, Denver, NY Giants, and @ Cincinnati. Denver appears to have the weakest schedule, with games against the lowly Raiders in Oakland, and @ Baltimore, before closing with two cupcakes at home, Cleveland and Kansas City.

         Though the Patriots are focusing on Houston and Baltimore ahead of them, beware of the Broncos, who are lurking, just a tie-breaker behind: http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_22118681/broncos-aim-no-2-seed-key-game-at  




     
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    Or you'll jump off the bandwagon for good?  You almost make me wish the Pats would lose.

     
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    All these games are must win games if the Pats hope to have home field advantage

     
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    You're a troll. BB and the Patriots are the best. And, of course, I am not only a real fan - but I'm the best Patriot's fan, ever.

     
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    Or you'll jump off the bandwagon for good?  You almost make me wish the Pats would lose.



         Jump off the band wagon?? Oh...so now you're finally admitting that I'm a Patriots fan, after years of such idiotic assertions that UD6 and I are the same guy, that I'm a Cowboys' fan (I guess this must be so, since I live in Texas, right, Mighty?), that I'm a Jets fan, a troll...etc.. It seems that only you, oh Mighty One, and the rest of the Ostrich Society, which is made up of Pats fans who rather stick their heads in the sand and ignore reality...are worthy of the Patriots.  LOL!!!   

     

     
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    All these games are must win games if the Pats hope to have home field advantage



         Of course...but without winning this next game against Houston, the rest may not matter, with regards to earning a bye.

     

     
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         The Pats are not facing the 11-1, AFC leading Houston Texans at the most opportune time. Their injury list is long and distinguished: TE Rob Gronkowski (arm), LG Logan Mankins (ankle/shoulder/knee), RT Sebastien Vollmer (ankle/back), RG Dan Connelly (back), WR/PR Julian Edelman (foot), DE Chandler Jones (ankle)...not good. But, the Pats are playing at home, and still have the the most dynamic duo in NFL history on their side, in BB and Tom Brady. Nonetheless, they'll need to bring their "A" game to the stadium next week, if they want to beat the tough, balanced Texans. At stake is playoff seeding. If the Patriots lose to the Texans, you can just about kiss away any hope of New England earning a playoff bye. 

         The Pats finally caught a break last Sunday, when the Charlie Batch led Pittsburgh Steelers upset the Baltimore Ravens. With a win over Houston, the Pats remaining games are against SF at home, Jacksonville on the road, and Miami, at home.

         Meanwhile, the Texans will finish with back to back home games against Luck led Indy, and the Vikings, before finishing the season at Indy. The Ravens have the toughest road remaining, with games @ Washington, Denver, NY Giants, and @ Cincinnati. Denver appears to have the weakest schedule, with games against the lowly Raiders in Oakland, and @ Baltimore, before closing with two cupcakes at home, Cleveland and Kansas City.

         Though the Patriots are focusing on Houston and Baltimore ahead of them, beware of the Broncos, who are lurking, just a tie-breaker behind: http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_22118681/broncos-aim-no-2-seed-key-game-at  






    Yep. They are going to have to bring their A game. 

    Thankfully, they have a couple things going for them. 

    1.) Houston's run defense isn't "elite" like their pass defense. It's tied for 10th. Take that FWIW. 

    2.) Houston has to blitz (more than anyone in the NFL as a matter of fact) to generate pressure. Brady has an astounding 125 rating when opponents blitz, so it isn't like facing the Giants or Ravens, who can get pressure sending 4 only. 

    3.) NE is playing at home.

    Things they don't have going for them .... 

    1.) They are damaged badly ... especially on offense. But the defense is missing some key players too, especially Jones. 

    2.) They haven't faced an offense this good period. Houston is 4th in yardage and second in scoring .... the closest thing NE faced was the Broncos, when they were middle of the pack, and Manning was hobbling around. Now they are much better, and not the same team NE played. Adjusting for that, the highest ranked offense on the season they've played is Buffalo at 17th. The Defense has pretty much had a cakewalk schedule so far this season! NE's offense has already faced 5 of the top 10 scoring defenses, including Miami last week ... Baltimore, Arizona, Miami, Seatle and Denver. So Texas is not another stratosphere from that collection. But truly .... they've yet to even see an offense like Texas'. 



         I'm really concerned about the Pats' ability to shut down the run. Arien Foster is the AFC's best RB, and the Texan OL has been first rate this season. The Texans' TE Owen Daniels also could be trouble.

         On offense, the Pats must contain JJ Watt. Beware the pass deflections at the line...they could lead to damaging picks. As you correctly stated above, the Pats must run the ball well, if they are to win. Look for the Pats to include a dose of swing passes and screen to Vereen and Woodhead as well. Brandon Lloyd needs to re-appear in this game.

     

     
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    One thing is clear....This Pats team needs MAJOR CHANGES.

     
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    One thing is clear....This Pats team needs MAJOR CHANGES.



         Oh...you silly homers! "Major changes" were made...as the secondary was completely overhauled. Aqib Talib was acquired, and now starts at CB. Devin McCourty has been moved permanently to safety. Rookie Alfonzo Dennard starts at the other CB spot, with Arrington now the nickel back. Safety Patrick Chung is now coming off the bench...replaced by Steve Gregory.   

     

     
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    Yeah it looks like a whole new roster with all new players. Good point.

     
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    Yeah it looks like a whole new roster with all new players. Good point.



         Thank you.

     

     
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    On the other hand the Texans have face two Offenses like NE.  Den and GB.  Denver was early while PM was gathering himself he still scored 25 point on them.  GB put 42 on them.  Houston has struggled in the last few week, OT by Jax and Detriot and a close low scoring game against Chicago.

    Still if the Pats split the Hou/SF games they still have a shot at the 2 or three seed.  I'd like to see them win out but I'm not putting this as a Must win game.  They have already clinched the Div what more can you ask for?

     
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    The Texans are not that great of a running team this year.  Foster is having a down year averaging under 4 ypc.  He is surviving on volume more than anything this year.  I think the Pats have a great chance to shut down the run game.

     
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    The Texans are not that great of a running team this year.  Foster is having a down year averaging under 4 ypc.  He is surviving on volume more than anything this year.  I think the Pats have a great chance to shut down the run game.



         Houston is 6th in the NFL in rushing, averaging 4.1 yards per rush (Arien Foster is averaging 3.9 yards per rush). Job one against them is stopping the run. Incidently, the 49ers are 2nd in the league in rushing, and the Patriots are 8th.

     

     
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    Patriots 38 - 17

     
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         The Texans have some injury problems, too...particularly regarding their secondary: http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/12/all-hands-needed-for-texans-with-patriots-on-deck/ 

         Today, the Texans addressed their injury riddled secondary by signing free agent CB, Stanford Routt: http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/12/texans-sign-cornerback-stanford-routt-to-one-year-deal/ 

     
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    Yup, they have to win this one in order to have a shot at the bye. If the Patriots lose then Denver will get the bye when they knock off the Ravens and run the table. At this point Denver is more dangerous than Houston IMO. Not the same team we played earlier but neither are the Patriots.

     
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    On the other hand the Texans have face two Offenses like NE.  Den and GB.  Denver was early while PM was gathering himself he still scored 25 point on them.  GB put 42 on them.  Houston has struggled in the last few week, OT by Jax and Detriot and a close low scoring game against Chicago.

    Still if the Pats split the Hou/SF games they still have a shot at the 2 or three seed.  I'd like to see them win out but I'm not putting this as a Must win game.  They have already clinched the Div what more can you ask for?



    Good point.

    Texas hasn't faced many dominant offenses either. Gb sure. If they played Denver those first 4-5 weeks, it's not the Denver that is playing now. 

    In fact, if NE sees Denver in the playoffs it will be a markedly different team. Even their defense is playing on point.



    The Denver O isn't the same but their D is and Our D isn't the same as the D they faced early on either. 

    If Seyton Manning has to come into NE in Jan he will look like he did when he was with the Dolts, doing the Jitter Bugs and short arming passes.

     
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    Yup, they have to win this one in order to have a shot at the bye. If the Patriots lose then Denver will get the bye when they knock off the Ravens and run the table. At this point Denver is more dangerous than Houston IMO. Not the same team we played earlier but neither are the Patriots.




    Denver's defense isn't that good.  That will be their downfall. 




    Typical Crusty/Scummy,  Being ranked 3rd is bad and 26th is good.

     
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    Be nice if they win, but they do not have to. They are in the playoffs as a division champion; no worse than a #4 seed. It does not matter whether they play 3 games rather than 2 to get to the Super Bowl, nor does it matter whether they play home or away.


    All that matters is that when the playoffs come, they play each game better than the other team.

     

     

     
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    "Of course...but without winning this next game against Houston, the rest may not matter, with regards to earning a bye."

    You could say that about every remaining game on the schedule though. There's no significance to the Houston game unless you are fantasizing that Houston could drop out of the 1 or 2 spot. I'm not. 

    Ergo, all the games are equally important. The Pats need to go three for four I'd say to have a shot at a first round bye. When those wins happen is just not that important, as much as it would be nice to get us all jazzed up for this game. 

    Look, if I had to pick one game as the one I'd like most to win of the next four, it would be Houston as there is a slight, and I mean slight chance that loss could end up knocking them into the three or four seed eventually, and of course wins against AFC teams matter a bit more than NFC for tie breaker scenarios, but this is not a must win game, even for home field advantage. It's a must win for the number one seed but not the number two, and I don't really care about one versus two. What matters is the bye week. 

    Here's how I'd describe it, not as melodramatic but here goes: 

    - To have a shot as a first round bye, the Pats MUST win three out of four. (going 2-2 is not going to cut it for a first round bye. (and get some help from Baltimore and Denver in particular by those teams losing). For this scenario, it doesn't really matter where the loss comes, or where the wins come, but the Texans would be the top choice for a win.

    - To have a shot at the number one seed throughout the playoffs, if that is important to you, the Pats must win every game that's left (and get some help from Houston losing in particular)

     

     
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