Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense

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    In Response to Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense : we did resign patten? i didnt see that one.
    Posted by mosseffect43


    Old news but yes Patten was signed

    http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=pressreleasesdetail&pid=41943&pcid=47
     
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    In Response to Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense : Name me 1 team that has made more offseason Free agent signings than the Pats this year.....
    Posted by m1021us
    out side of resigning there own players?

    Were their own players Free Agents?


    And yes we signed Patten for a second time around.

    And no, I don't think that we will see Welker until the second half of the season IF at all.....
     
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    mosseffect43 Posts: 5189 First: 4/7/2008 Last: 3/17/2010 In Response to Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense : In Response to Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense : Name me 1 team that has made more offseason Free agent signings than the Pats this year..... Posted by m1021us out side of resigning there own players? Were their own players Free Agents? And yes we signed Patten for a second time around. And no, I don't think that we will see Welker until the second half of the season IF at all.....
    Posted by m1021us

     by technicality you could say the pats did.that being said.the pats are better with them then without them,but have they improved,and are they better now then they were last season?
     
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    the off season consists of three phases to get the team together........free agency........which was weak ...........the draft ....which hasn't happened yet .........and trades ...which haven't happened yet and will happen on draft day.....Hard to throw in the towel on a season when three quarters of the off season hasn't come yet................its a  jog
     
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    I agree there is a lot of time left,and trades could happen.ive never thrown in the towel on the team.ive always hope for the best,but like many here i just state my opinions on the moment at hand.
     
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    werent the saints 8-8 the year before last?  that can only mean we are actually closer than we might have thought   nuf said...

     
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    Posted by m1021us

     by technicality you could say the pats did.that being said.the pats are better with them then without them,but have they improved,and are they better now then they were last season?
    Yes, the Pats were able to retain some of the best free agents out there (which hapens to be their own), thus keeping their core team in tact.....

    There is not 1 team out there that has improved.....it does not make sense to complain about the Pats not improving this early in the off season.....
     
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    Commenting in these forums is merely expressing opinion and we're all entitled to do exactly that.  Mine, however, is in pretty sharp contrast to those who believe that the sky is indeed about to fall.  Julius Peppers gets a lot of sacks, no question about it.  But spending the kind of money the Bears did to sign him was a move born of desperation and they are desperate.  Baltimore is welcome to Bolden; he's a malcontent on the downside of his career. 

    After the Pats took care of business by re-signing their own free agents (all of which were good to excellent moves in my opinion) what exactly was out there?  It was indeed a thin F/A market. 

    The medical assessment that Welker will not be ready until the end of the 2010 reg season or miss 2010 altogether came from where, exactly??

    Setting aside the young players who missed all or most of last year (which I believe will yield a legit player or 2 at receiver and/or LB), the Pats have 4 picks in the top 53 of what is considered a very deep draft. They have lots of options in terms of moving up, down or trading.  I'm sure they will make some moves.

    Call me a KoolAid drinker if you like, I put my trust in BB and I think we will indeed be competitive yet again.

     
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    Wow.  Talk about letting the wind out of the sails.  Whew. As an outsider looking in, I'd say it does not appear to me to be quite as dire as characterized, and maybe TP is underselling a bit in hopes the pats overdeliver.    A question:  Is Welker really not going to play in '10?  If not this may be the best thing for Brady.  I keep coming back to the question about the pats and their 3rd receiver and also TE.  Are these players that bad or did Brady just focus too much on the great receivers Moss and Welker?  No one could fault him for doing so, but if there is any truth to this, imagine how scary your offense would be if he'd just throw to those guys a little more to keep opposing defenses off balance. 
    Posted by underdoggg


    Hey Dogg! Forget what thread it was, but late last week we were talking about the Super Bowl Loser's Swoon Syndrome. You felt that the Dolts were not likey to fall prey to this, even though most of the Super Bowl losers of the Patriots Decade of the 00's did indeed do so.  You asked me to name 5 teams that I felt were or very well might be better than your Dolts (and why) this season. I could not answer you at the time because I was still at work when I read your response.

    I think that the following teams could very well beat your team in the AFC / NFC regular season and/or playoffs, including the Super Bowl, especially if your boys are on the road and outside. Now, I have no idea what your schedule is this season, other than division stiffs: titans, texans, jaguars and maybe you won't even play some of the teams listed below.

    The Bolts - why? Because they always have beaten your team when it counts.
    The Patriots - Why? Because we will play you in Foxboro...I think we definitely win last season if we were not in Indy.
    The Jets - because you will want to rest your starters, LOL.
    The Phins - because they are a balanced team and hate your guts like we do.
    The Bills - because they beat you last year, it was very cold outside.


    Maybe (at home), but do not know your schedule for this season: The Bengals (especially if Ocho Cinco gets his buddy TO), Steelers (because they are the Steelers), Ravens (because they hate all of Gomer's commercials), Raiders (because it will be at the end of the season and you will not want to enhance our Raider pick in 2011).

    NFC: I think you could easily lose to:
    The Saints - because  you already did lose to them.
    The Vikings - depends upon who has the ball last - does FAVOR or Gomer choke last to lose the big game???? That is the question????
    The Iggles - because they have a relentless pass rush. Gomer gets rattled...end of story.

    OK Dogg?  Flail way brother!!!
     
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    Bradley,

    I used to take you seriously.  We could really talk about things, but you've now devolved into one of those guys who just writes crap just to do it. 

    First, likely any AFC team can beat the colts, but who is better and who will do so in order to keep them from the postseason next year.  The fact is these other teams have their own flaws as well. 

    3 of your answers are legit.  Bolts, Pats, Jets, but the Phins and Bills??  Really??.  

    First - Here's the sched - AFC West (Den, Oak Away), NFC East (Phil, Wash Away), Pats away and Bengals home.   

    Toughest away games - Pats, Hou, Ten. 

    Toughest home games - SD, Dal, Cin,

    I like the colts chances again. 

    It is entirely possible that the colts miss the playoffs next year.  I agree they were not that great this year - look at all of the comebacks, but I just don't know if there are enough teams good enough to actually take them out. 
     
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    Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense

    TP the OP has posted and ran. Regarding the Pats' passive off-season making no sense, the overall majority of NFL teams have been passive. Makes sense to me.

    Any team can beat another team on any given day, but the better run teams win more than they lose. The Patriots, Colts, Steelers and now the Saints have smart front offices and coaches who know how to build teams in today's salary cap era. Off years happen, injuries happen, that's why the good teams build depth and don't over-spend in free-agency.

    I like the Patriots chances as well.


     
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    don't think its passive, they signed key theier key FA's, still have the draft to go, and by training camp BB make make a deal or two. he traded seymour right before the season started, i won't be surprised if he pull anothe rabbit out the hatTongue out
     
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    Very good logic Texas,

    I'm inbetween the 2 camps right now. I feel the Pats could have and should have targeted a couple of choice FA's and IMO they waited to long to sign there own guys back. No I wasn't thinking Dansby or Peppers mainly because I knew they would have cost way to much but I did think that both Walter and Boldin went for more then fair value and the Pats soud have been all over both of them. Also looking at Wimbley trade to Oak that's another one they should have atleast tried to get in.

    On the other hand the big FA names went for way to much money and the FA pool was way to thin to make a lot of moves on. That being the main reason why a lot of teams haven't signed a lot of players again imo.

    The Pats resigned a number of their own players which means they didn't exactly get worse (by losing the players) but without signing FA's so far they haven't gotten better then a team that was booted early in the playoffs. You then take a look at an aging OL, Welker being lost for what looks like atleast the PuP, and that they have lost all their TE's and they have infact actually got worse from last year. Now it's true that other teams haven't improved either but other teams haven't lost as much as us in terms of a starting DE, all TE's, resigning a RG that was looking to retire and already having a gapping hole in the pass rush.

    Now the draft is extremely deep and should help a lot but saying that it will fix all holes and we will magically pick up trades while keepng all our picks to fill hioles is nuts. IMO this year might hurt but with a strong solid draft we might be built for another 5 year run.

    This is just not a good year to have so many holes to fill. With any luck a couple good players will be released because the draft alone won't improve us from last year. 
     
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    mosseffect43 Posts: 5184 First: 4/7/2008 Last: 3/17/2010 In Response to Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense : mosseffect43 Posts: 5189 First: 4/7/2008 Last: 3/17/2010 In Response to Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense : In Response to Re: Pats' Passive Off-Season Makes No Sense : Name me 1 team that has made more offseason Free agent signings than the Pats this year..... Posted by m1021us out side of resigning there own players? Were their own players Free Agents? And yes we signed Patten for a second time around. And no, I don't think that we will see Welker until the second half of the season IF at all..... Posted by m1021us  by technicality you could say the pats did.that being said.the pats are better with them then without them,but have they improved,and are they better now then they were last season? Yes, the Pats were able to retain some of the best free agents out there (which hapens to be their own), thus keeping their core team in tact..... There is not 1 team out there that has improved.....it does not make sense to complain about the Pats not improving this early in the off season.....
    Posted by m1021us
    there is a diffrence then complaing and just stateing.im just stateing they havent improved themselves yet.dosent matter to me how early it is or how much longer it will go.im just stateing at this moment right now the pats have yet filled there weakness on the team.I hear many say the free agency is weak.now is it weak by the players or the positions?for i think there are several players out there that still has lots of talent and can help,and thrive with the pats.now if its lets say pass rushers then yes its very weak there.
     
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    TP, gotta disagree.

    The Pats mantained their core players while their losses won't be missed. This team needs to get a true #1 RB (Laurence isn't) and get a FB and a couple blocking TEs. All these can be had in the draft. A more balanced offense that can wear down teams while keeping their defenses honest will cure a lot of ills.

    Their D is better than many think and I think the departure of Dean Poops should instantly improve this underachieving unit.

    If they fail to improve the running game, all my optimism will shack up with Maroney's potential.
     
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