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was it the Giant's ball control offense or due to the Giant's defense shutting down the Patriots offense. Seems to me like it was the latter. Coughlin and the Giants executed their game plan...and took the Patriot's offense out of their comfort zone.
It was the Giant's ball control offense, the style we won three championships with and should have run ourselves. They ran more, they didn't take dumb chances, they didn't turn it over twice.
Again in 2007 the Patriots led the NFL in average time per drive 3:07 minutes, we were second in time of possession. Like it or not we were a ball control offense in 07' and it didn't mean we scored less points, it meant we were balanced.
Why do you keep failing to realize we have to take chances and score more points because our D doesnt stop anyone at the end of games. BB has tried to outscore teams only AFTER his defense went into hiding. Its no coincidence. You are a smart guy, why do you keep this going? Slowing down the game and scoring less points when your D cant get off the field is a Disaster! Thats we took chances and Giants didnt because they HAD a defense that got off the field, giving them more time to waste clock. They didnt even care to score, just keep Brady off the field. Brilliant strategy. We couldnt play that game,. Didnt you notice we tried vs Bmore last year and didnt score squat? It takes BALL CONTROL DEFENSE to be able to play ball control offense.
The debate are getting old, the same people that talk about complentry football still want to just hang everything on the O. In that giants game If the Pats slowed the game down even more it would be playing into the giants hands. I know a number of people played football here.
A defenses only job really is to get the ball back to the offense. That is the mind set you have.....your not thinking about keeping them from scoring every play.... it is get the ball back to the O. At both high school and college I have been in games where we had to stop the other O 5 or 6 times in a row before our O broke out. Never once when we allowed a bunch of first down were we happy... I know I was never a pro but 4 years at college and many more before that since I was 7, I would never look at what the Pats D put up in that game and say yah they did a good job....1st half they were ok... 2nd half they were completely dominated.
The offense had its fault but the giants D had something to do with it . TB didn't put his best game up and had turnovers but no one on the offense steped up to help him out.... running game stuffed in key spots, wr droping very catachable balls, line didn't block well at key moments... This was team loss and every part stunk. When I have sat in film rooms after a game never once did my Coach "say points is the only think that matter" as they broke down what we all did ... always the good , bad, and ugly. I'm sure there was more bad and ugly in all parts of the game. Fan are the ones who make the clam more often then not a w is a w... behind closed doors also every coach I had would rather play to the best of our ability and lose a close one, then than we play like crap and get lucky.... I'm sure Rally could agree... I don't think it changes 180 at pro level.