Re: Pats should go after Freeney or Osi
posted at 1/23/2013 4:11 PM EST
In response to TripleOG's comment:
In response to dapats1281's comment:
First, I don't expect these guys to be 14 sacks DE's anymore. That being said, I think there is value to these guys. The Pats pass rush will live and die on the development of Chandler Jones. a 2nd pass rusher couldnt hurt this team and would provide injury insurance if Jones goes down. Both are getting up there in age, but I still think each could have the same type of impact Andre Carter had. I also think this team is lacking veteran leadership on the defensive side. Gregory and VW are the only impact players on the defense that are at least 30. I think a Veteran presence could do this team some good.
Osi is the guy I would prefer most. I think his postseason experience, which has largely been success, can do the team some good. Umenyiora has played in the underdog role and has largely thrived in that. I think he can help bring an attitude to the team come playoff time. Same thing with Freeney, but to a lesser extent. I think they can be effective pass rush specialists.
Salary expectations is probably the biggest question with these two. Cliff Avril and Paul Kruger will be the "prized" pass rushers in this FA class. I don't expect either guy to get that type of contract Mario got last season.
John Abraham got a 3 year 16.5 million contract last offseason. This was coming off back to back seasons in which he had 13 and 9.5 sacks.
Freeney the last two seasons has had 8.5 and 5, while Osi is at 9 and 6.
I think both can be had at john Abraham's contract, but probably less. I'd be surprised if Freeney got anything more than a two year deal, Osi, I can see 2-3 years for him.
Osi might be seeking a starting job. I'm not sure. He probably would have stayed in NYG if he was okay coming off the bench.
Freeney is coming off an ineffective season playing in the 3-4. He's older than Osi and I think will come for a cheaper price. He might also be okay with being a pass rush specialist.
I think the Pats should seriously consider one of the two. Both are the veteran type of FA's that BB likes to target. Hopefully they can work out like a Rodney Harrison as opposed to a Ochocinco.
Ummm, NO and No!
Osi been wanting to retire for a while. He doesnt come to training camp and only wants to play in games,. He is a just an upfield guy and that would never fly here and He is directly responsible for us not having 2 more titles on top of the fact that his play doesnt equate to his mouth anymore. I Hate the Guy!
As for Freeney, I watched him this year and honestly doesnt look like he has much left. His old spin move is played out. He doesnt play the run and both of these guys if signed here would signal a desperation move IMO.
You wanna go out and get someone we hate??? Get Benard Pollard!
I don't think it signals a desperation move. Signing FA's to fat contracts is usually more of a sign of desperation. Freeney was clearly out of his element in the 3-4 defense. I still think he can play in obvious passing situations and have the similar effect in the pass rush department as Andre Carter.
Your hatred on Osi is your opinion, if you hate him then you hate him. But I still think he can add to this team.
Not looking at these guys to become stars of the defense. That needs to be Chandler Jones. But I think you can make room for them as important role players.
You can't go into next season banking on Chandler Jones making the JPP second year jump