Re: Payton Suspended for One Year and Williams Barred Indefinitly!
posted at 3/21/2012 9:29 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Payton Suspended for One Year and Williams Barred Indefinitly!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Payton Suspended for One Year and Williams Barred Indefinitly! : I'm convinced the Pats punishment was more a factor of Belichick ignoring the 2006 NFL memo supposedly clarifying the taping rule than with any competitive advantage the Pats gained (of which, I believe there was NONE). Same thing with the Saints; they not only ignored warnings from the league to cease and desist, but lied and attempted a cover-up. Belichick was pretty straightforward with Goodell as soon as he was caught.
Posted by MattC05[/QUOTE]
I don't think BB was "caught" doing anything other than messing with the Jets after the 2006 inicident in Foxborough. The thing that people who want to be jealous of the Pats forget is, there is/was a major tiff between the Jets and Pats, and in particular Manboobs and BB.
Yeah, he shouldn't have been being so petty with a rival team and coach, but this stuff has happened before with burned bridges between coaches, etc. Maybe not in that way, but we've heard the stories.
The way Manboobs left, why would BB kiss Manboob's butt? Tecnically, NE can't shut down NY's camera, because the road team has to be given the same kind of legal location. So, this little angle started the year the memo came out. NE can't really shut down any opponent's camera. THe NFL personnel can, but home teams physically can't. So, this means the NFL shut it down, right or wrong, and then never reported it to Goodell.
I mention this, because NY violated the technicality in the rule that NE did the following year. So, it wasn't just BB ignoring a memo, as it's framed so incorrectly by the media. All 32 teams were reminded of the rule, but if you didn't see any violations enforced, why would you think it was so serious? Estrella was in broad daylight, so there is no way BB is getting "caught" doing anything. It's the fact that the memo talked about locations, yet the NFL never enforced the sideline one.
Plus, Goodell acknowledge other teams were in violation, which would reflect the story about the tapes sent in by BB showed these teams in violation. If that's true, why didn't Goodell stay consistent in the punishments? Was it to appease the teams behind the scenes goading Goodell on? Why was the punishemtn sent down so fast? Why didn't Goodell learn more about the way teams legally scout one another? Why didn't Goodell see the poorly worded rule itself?
This leads a logical person to believe that Goodell wanted the rule to be followed specifically and not just so the tape never left the camera during the game. Fair enough, but I also dont think BB had any idea whatsoever, in a million years, Goodell would make a mountain out of a molehill, as long the tapes never left the camcroders and the integrity of the game wasn't compromised by using video for future scouting. So, basically by him messing with Mangini with a guy in a YELLOW vest, triggered an overblown thing.
Someone said soon after BB did that to make Manboobs think his signals were compromised, simply to mess with him, which means this video thing with the potential for sign stealing was well known by all NFL teams. Hence, the defense of those signals, with decoys, etc. If there was such concern of a home team's cameras, one that is never checked by NFL personnel, to capture signals on video, why is it allowed? lol
I can see why Goodell was embarrassed and why he looked dumber and dumber as the thing carried on. He let NFL teams tell him what to do.
This time, he didn't. He had evidence, hard proof and a context to know that New Orleans was the only team in violation.
Lastly, there was a huge grey area in the wordking of the rule and how it was written in the Constitution and Bylaws. Finally, wouldn't it be easier to just not allow taping at all if this was so egregious?
There is no way other teams weren't filming NE, even accidentally. No way on earth.
Regardless, we now see how overblown Spygate was and why it was so. It was because the media didn't like how BB treated them and it was a sexy story that the very professional and consistently successful Pats organization was in violation of a technicality in a rule. A stupid technicality, which was location of the cameraman.