Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

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    Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

     1st half of season2nd half of season
    Opp Total YPG 390.8 381.5
    Opp Pass YPG 288.0 264.3
    Opp Rush YPG 102.8 117.2
    Opp PPG 22.6 18.7
    Opp Total QBR 68.6
    (30th in NFL)
    37.4
    (2nd in NFL)

    Not coincidentally, as the team peaks in the final weeks, the defense's performance improves significantly.

    According to ESPN Stats & Information, since 2010, opposing quarterbacks in the first half of the season registered a Total QBR of 68.6 against the Patriots, which left New England ranked 30th in the NFL.

    But, in a dramatic turnaround, the Total QBR for opposing quarterbacks over the second half of the season dropped to 37.4, or second-best in the league.

    Total QBR is a rating that summarizes all of the quarterback's contributions (passing, rushing, fumbles, sacks and penalties) into a 0-100 scale in which 50 is average.

     

    Hmm, maybe this defense was never as bad as a few of    you have made it out to be.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    Isn't that how BB sees it?  It is how the team is playing late in the season, not in the early half that is most important.  Recall all the moans and groans early this season when we all knew BB does not put all his cards on the table in the early part of the season?  Now, let's see this keep up when San Fran is in town.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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     1st half of season2nd half of season Opp Total YPG 390.8 381.5 Opp Pass YPG 288.0 264.3 Opp Rush YPG 102.8 117.2 Opp PPG 22.6 18.7 Opp Total QBR 68.6
    (30th in NFL) 37.4
    (2nd in NFL)

    Not coincidentally, as the team peaks in the final weeks, the defense's performance improves significantly.

    According to ESPN Stats & Information, since 2010, opposing quarterbacks in the first half of the season registered a Total QBR of 68.6 against the Patriots, which left New England ranked 30th in the NFL.

    But, in a dramatic turnaround, the Total QBR for opposing quarterbacks over the second half of the season dropped to 37.4, or second-best in the league.

    Total QBR is a rating that summarizes all of the quarterback's contributions (passing, rushing, fumbles, sacks and penalties) into a 0-100 scale in which 50 is average.

     

    Hmm, maybe this defense was never as bad as a few of    you have made it out to be.

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    Hmmm, or maybe the addition of Talib, the emergence of Dennard and the move of McCourty has had a profound impact just like myself and several others had proposed it might. When 75% of your secondary is different, that's a pretty significant change.

    Or did you think BB felt everything was hunky dory and just made these drastic changes for ha has?

     

     

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    In response to BabeParilli's comment:
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    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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     1st half of season2nd half of season Opp Total YPG 390.8 381.5 Opp Pass YPG 288.0 264.3 Opp Rush YPG 102.8 117.2 Opp PPG 22.6 18.7 Opp Total QBR 68.6
    (30th in NFL) 37.4
    (2nd in NFL)

    Not coincidentally, as the team peaks in the final weeks, the defense's performance improves significantly.

    According to ESPN Stats & Information, since 2010, opposing quarterbacks in the first half of the season registered a Total QBR of 68.6 against the Patriots, which left New England ranked 30th in the NFL.

    But, in a dramatic turnaround, the Total QBR for opposing quarterbacks over the second half of the season dropped to 37.4, or second-best in the league.

    Total QBR is a rating that summarizes all of the quarterback's contributions (passing, rushing, fumbles, sacks and penalties) into a 0-100 scale in which 50 is average.

     

    Hmm, maybe this defense was never as bad as a few of    you have made it out to be.

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    Hmmm, or maybe the addition of Talib, the emergence of Dennard and the move of McCourty has had a profound impact just like myself and several others had proposed it might. When 75% of your secondary is different, that's a pretty significant change.

    Or did you think BB felt everything was hunky dory and just made these drastic changes for ha has?

     

     

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    Either way, is it still not up to BB to make the roster moves...and isn't it still improved one way or the other? I think the roster moves are indicitive of fleshing out what you have for players and how they are utilized to be most effective from experience in the first half of the year.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    In response to BabeParilli's comment:
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    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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     1st half of season2nd half of season Opp Total YPG 390.8 381.5 Opp Pass YPG 288.0 264.3 Opp Rush YPG 102.8 117.2 Opp PPG 22.6 18.7 Opp Total QBR 68.6
    (30th in NFL) 37.4
    (2nd in NFL)

    Not coincidentally, as the team peaks in the final weeks, the defense's performance improves significantly.

    According to ESPN Stats & Information, *******since 2010*******, opposing quarterbacks in the first half of the season registered a Total QBR of 68.6 against the Patriots, which left New England ranked 30th in the NFL.

    But, in a dramatic turnaround, the Total QBR for opposing quarterbacks over the second half of the season dropped to 37.4, or second-best in the league.

    Total QBR is a rating that summarizes all of the quarterback's contributions (passing, rushing, fumbles, sacks and penalties) into a 0-100 scale in which 50 is average.

     

    Hmm, maybe this defense was never as bad as a few of    you have made it out to be.

    [/QUOTE]


    Hmmm, or maybe the addition of Talib, the emergence of Dennard and the move of McCourty has had a profound impact just like myself and several others had proposed it might. When 75% of your secondary is different, that's a pretty significant change.

    Or did you think BB felt everything was hunky dory and just made these drastic changes for ha has?

     

     

    [/QUOTE]


    I guess you missed the part that said, "Since 2010."

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

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    if you need jackie mac to tell you that BB defenses get better as the season goes on then you haven't been paying much attention over the past decade

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    Some of these people need "media outlets" to tell them what to think....hence me posting the article for them.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    This is why the Patriots typically have 2 more wins in the second half of the season than first half.

    Many people on this board did not worry. A lot of the arguing was about how bad the secondary really was and what if anything to do about it.

     

    Of course BB was actually doing something about it as well as getting the secoind string ready to step in incase of injury  throughout the defense and solving other potential issues as he has done just about every year.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    well, mebbe they were as bad as people were saying - except BB, the coaches, and players made enough corrections. Team building is a dynamic process, no?

     
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    well, mebbe they were as bad as people were saying - except BB, the coaches, and players made enough corrections. Team building is a dynamic process, no?

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    Over the 1st half of the season the last 2 years BB sent extra pass rushers a league low. For whatever reason he gradually allows his defense to become aggressive. Going into the playoffs last year the defense was playing well too, much like it does every year.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

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    Hmm, maybe this defense was never as bad as a few of    you have made it out to be.

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    Or maybe it was, which is why Belichick took the relatively dramatic action of bringing in a suspended Talib mid season.  Secondary play has improved signficantly with him in.  The development of Dennard has also helped, as has the movement of McCourty to safety which has been enabled by the presence of Dennard and Talib. 

    It may also be why Belichick drafted so many defensive players and brought in a number of mid-skill free agents like Gregory and Scott.  The defense clearly needed work.  Last year, BB basically blew up the d-line before the season started.  The improvement in the defense isn't some kind of magic .  .   . it's happened because BB has spent a lot of time trying to upgrade the talent. 

    Talent matters. 

     

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

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    well, mebbe they were as bad as people were saying - except BB, the coaches, and players made enough corrections. Team building is a dynamic process, no?

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    Over the 1st half of the season the last 2 years BB sent extra pass rushers a league low. For whatever reason he gradually allows his defense to become aggressive. Going into the playoffs last year the defense was playing well too, much like it does every year.

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    Rights, so mebbe the portrayal of the secondary in the first of the season is indeed accurate. It's a good thing that they've improved since the beginning of the season.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:
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    In response to TrueChamp's comment:
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    Hmm, maybe this defense was never as bad as a few of    you have made it out to be.

    [/QUOTE]

    Or maybe it was, which is why Belichick took the relatively dramatic action of bringing in a suspended Talib mid season.  Secondary play has improved signficantly with him in.  The development of Dennard has also helped, as has the movement of McCourty to safety which has been enabled by the presence of Dennard and Talib. 

    It may also be why Belichick drafted so many defensive players and brought in a number of mid-skill free agents like Gregory and Scott.  The defense clearly needed work.  Last year, BB basically blew up the d-line before the season started.  The improvement in the defense isn't some kind of magic .  .   . it's happened because BB has spent a lot of time trying to upgrade the talent. 

    Talent matters. 

     

    [/QUOTE]


    True, but the point of the article is that this happens year after year, not just this year.

    You start off with what you've got, you train and teach, you re-evaluate. You constantly look to upgrade in talent, in scheme, in execution.

     
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    Re: Per Jackie Mac..Pats defense's get much etter the 2nd half of the season..

    http://www.csnne.com/blog/standing-room-only/post/Patriots-arent-Super-Bowl-bound-yet?blockID=812475&feedID=10426

    Another article noting this pattern...

     

    Have we all learned our lesson now? Next year, when the Pats are 4-2 after six weeks and are giving up 600 passing yards a game, are we still going to lose our minds? Claim that this team doesn't have a chance? That the game has passed Belichick by? That the organization is wasting the prime of Brady's career?

    Or will remember this year . . . and last year . . . and the year before . . . and realize that the first month of the season doesn't define any team, never mind a squad — even more, a defense — coached by Bob Belichick?

    Eh, probably not. But it won't change the end result.

     

     
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