Peyton Manning and Bronco's violate CBA, will NFL take action this time?

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    What do you think? Fine the team? Loss of a late round pick?


    The meeting between former Tennessee quarterback Peyton Manning and current Alabama coach Nick Saban will raise plenty of eyebrows among Volunteers fans who voluntarily wear on Saturdays in the fall an objectively unattractive shade of orange.


    The session also should raise some eyebrows at 345 Park Avenue, for entirely different reasons.


    As Saban explained it, Manning was accompanied by offensive coordinator Adam Gase. Saban also said that Manning and Gase were “making some visits.”


    “To be honest with you, [Manning] was just trying to learn so he could be a better player,” Saban said. “I think a lot of people would say, ‘Wow, the guy is one of the best, if not the best, and certainly from a career standpoint probably about as good as anybody’s been in the history of the league. After all the experience and knowledge that he has, he’s going out and trying to seek more knowledge and understanding of the game of football so he can play better.”


    That’s admirable. It’s also a potential CBA violation.


    The new labor deal, struck in 2011, places clear limits on offseason activities. Under Article 21, Section 2(a)(ii), players “are not permitted to participate in . . . group or individual meetings with coaches” prior to the start of the team’s official offseason workout program.


    The Broncos have yet to start their official offseason program. Gase and Manning aren’t allowed to meet. Under Saban is lying (because “I’m not going to be the Alabama coach“), it looks like they met.


    Per a league source, Saban’s characterization of Manning and Gase making arm-in-arm visits to college coaches could be incorrect. The Manning-Gase-Saban meeting at Alabama may have happened by chance, with Manning coming in to meet Saban and Gase, who once worked for Saban, happening to be in the area at the same time.


    Regardless, it appears there was a meeting between player and coach before the start of Denver’s offseason program.


    The Broncos declined comment on the issue. The NFL has not yet responded to an email message seeking confirmation that the rules prohibit meetings between players and coaches prior to the start of the team’s offseason program.


    Then again, confirmation likely isn’t necessary. The rule is clear. In the three years since the rule was created, it’s the first time evidence has arisen of a potential violation.


    UPDATE 11:27 a.m. ET: NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy tells PFT that the league is looking into the situation.


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    Don't do the crime if you can't do they crime...lose a late round draft choice and a large fine...

     
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    What do you think? Fine the team? Loss of a late round pick?


    Doesn't matter. Broncos fans will still cry 'cheater' at Pats fans. After all they conviniently forget the fine and pick loss they got after getting caught manipulating cap numbers.


     


    The meeting between former Tennessee quarterback Peyton Manning and current Alabama coach Nick Saban will raise plenty of eyebrows among Volunteers fans who voluntarily wear on Saturdays in the fall an objectively unattractive shade of orange.


     


    The session also should raise some eyebrows at 345 Park Avenue, for entirely different reasons.


     


    As Saban explained it, Manning was accompanied by offensive coordinator Adam Gase. Saban also said that Manning and Gase were “making some visits.”


     


    “To be honest with you, [Manning] was just trying to learn so he could be a better player,” Saban said. “I think a lot of people would say, ‘Wow, the guy is one of the best, if not the best, and certainly from a career standpoint probably about as good as anybody’s been in the history of the league. After all the experience and knowledge that he has, he’s going out and trying to seek more knowledge and understanding of the game of football so he can play better.”


     


    That’s admirable. It’s also a potential CBA violation.


     


    The new labor deal, struck in 2011, places clear limits on offseason activities. Under Article 21, Section 2(a)(ii), players “are not permitted to participate in . . . group or individual meetings with coaches” prior to the start of the team’s official offseason workout program.


     


    The Broncos have yet to start their official offseason program. Gase and Manning aren’t allowed to meet. Under Saban is lying (because “I’m not going to be the Alabama coach“), it looks like they met.


     


    Per a league source, Saban’s characterization of Manning and Gase making arm-in-arm visits to college coaches could be incorrect. The Manning-Gase-Saban meeting at Alabama may have happened by chance, with Manning coming in to meet Saban and Gase, who once worked for Saban, happening to be in the area at the same time.


     


    Regardless, it appears there was a meeting between player and coach before the start of Denver’s offseason program.


     


    The Broncos declined comment on the issue. The NFL has not yet responded to an email message seeking confirmation that the rules prohibit meetings between players and coaches prior to the start of the team’s offseason program.


     


    Then again, confirmation likely isn’t necessary. The rule is clear. In the three years since the rule was created, it’s the first time evidence has arisen of a potential violation.


     


    UPDATE 11:27 a.m. ET: NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy tells PFT that the league is looking into the situation.


     


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    meh..if it wasnt Manning no one would be the wiser.

     
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    The intent of the CBA rule is to keep teams from coercing players into working during the offseason.  While this visit may violate the letter of the rule, it hardly violates the spirit.  It's a pretty trivial violation if you ask me. 


     

     
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    Agree with prolate it's a trivial violation, but it's not trivial to Tennessee fans. Peyton totally stabbed Tennessee fans in the back by helping out Nick Saban and his program instead of helping out his alma mater. 


     


    It's classic Manning, he has totally pulled off his farm boy "aw shucks" thing but behind the scenes he's just like everyone else, working his angles and getting what's his - without necessarily looking out for his alma mater or those who once had his back. 


     


    Saban would have us believe that he gave Manning a bunch of info but Manning and his OC didn't help Saban at all. Yeah sure. But while Manning is a phony, Saban is a liar so we know pretty much the opposite of what Saban says actually happened. 


     


    This is a very minor story but I'm sure Volunteer fans are super ticked off and it will be entertaining to watch this unholy alliance unfold...

     
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    meh..if it wasnt Manning no one would be the wiser.


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    If it was Brady, Goodell would take away a 1st Round pick from NE.  Since it's Gomer, Goodell will ignore it.  

     
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    meh..if it wasnt Manning no one would be the wiser.


     


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    If it was Brady, Goodell would take away a 1st Round pick from NE.  Since it's Gomer, Goodell will ignore it.  


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    ESPN will also ignore this.

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from MileHighMike. Show MileHighMike's posts

    Re: Peyton Manning and Bronco's violate CBA, will NFL take action this time?

    Why has the media been ignoring this?  Why hasn't Roggie acted already?  He should have immediately taken away multiple first round picks and Elway's superbowl wins.  And the media?  Where is the media on this?   I mean, aside from this tiny outlet.  Just another example of the anti patsie bias rampant in the NFL.


     


     


     


    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10799996/nick-saban-hosts-peyton-manning-denver-broncos-visit-mutual-benefit

     
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    The league won't fine them or discipline them their not the Patriots! If that had been McD and Tom Brady we would lose our entire draft!!! The contact is twice as dubious because Goober was working out players, not just getting a chance to meet Saban while his OC watched. Like I said regardless of whether he was in violation of the rules Goodsmell won't penalize the Broncos !

     
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    The league won't fine them or discipline them their not the Patriots! If that had been McD and Tom Brady we would lose our entire draft!!! The contact is twice as dubious because Goober was working out players, not just getting a chance to meet Saban while his OC watched. Like I said regardless of whether he was in violation of the rules Goodsmell won't penalize the Broncos !


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    Your right about that, buddy, their not the Patriots. And twice, if not three times as dubious.   

     
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    oh boy.

     
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