Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    $2.5 million is about right for a solid number two or three receiver.  So I don't think the Pats were cheap.  If anything the Steelers were hoping to get Sanders cheap at $1.3 million.  Seems like they were banking on no one wanting him that badly.

     



    That is exactly correct. When they chose the 3rd rd tender it was two fold:

     

    1. An NFC team to take hime would be ok.

    2. We can't afford the 2 mil 2nd rd tender and we don't think anyone will offer a 2nd rder anyway (which is correct).

    Reality?  They just paid more in 2013 than they had budgeted and ditched an extra 3rd rder as they rebuild.

    That's a LOSS for Pitt.

     

     



    As it turns out Pitt should have offered the second round tender.  They would have had him cheaper or would have let him walk to the Pats and ended up with a second roun pick (though I doubt the Pats would have made an offer if a second round pick was at stake).

     
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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    Although I know some don't want to hear this, but the resigning of Edelman was a good move.  He's capable of getting 40 receptions as a WR in this offense.

    I think Sanders is a better WR, but the drop off isn't some huge dip either.

    I'd still like DeAndre Hopkins in Rd 1.  I think he'd be a great add even if raw.

     



    I agree. If BB is going to take a first round WR, I hope it is Hopkins. He can run the route tree and is decent at getting separation. His comparisons to Roddy White seem reasonable from what I have read.

     

    agreed

    he was my top wr for pats who i brought to the board before there was any discussion of him (pairing him with rogers ideally) along with some backup plan wrs.

    however our need is higher for a pass rusher. wihtout that i donmt know if we win a sb.

    so as long as we get one of carradine (carradine ideally), okafor, hunt along with hopkins and rogers, that would make the day

     
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    Meh.  Sanders had a low value for the Patriots because he isn't the smartest tool in the shed.


    Then again, he's half a million dollars smarter than Pittsburgh's front office.

     
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    it sucks that pitt matched, but im not surprised. back to the drawing board i guess.

     
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    This is a strong draft for WR's. There is plenty of talent to be had after the first round. Robert Woods, Marcus Wheaton, Maybe Justin Hunter, DaRick Rogers, Steadman Bailey.




    Thats all fine and dandy, if only the Pats knew how to pick em.

     
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    This is a strong draft for WR's. There is plenty of talent to be had after the first round. Robert Woods, Marcus Wheaton, Maybe Justin Hunter, DaRick Rogers, Steadman Bailey.

     




    Thats all fine and dandy, if only the Pats knew how to pick em.

     



    Mcdaniels knows how to pick a receiver.

     
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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    Exactly correct.  800K is obviously better than 1.2 when you're in the cap hell Pitt is in.

     

    That 400K difference of which is a lot for them. Certainly a lot more than they would have preffered.

    Factor in that it's tied to a long term deal and they blew it. They either thought more teams would be in on the 2.0+ bid and decide from there based on who bids (preferably the highest and an NFC team) or they didn't have the ability to do it. My money is on the latter.

    They couldn't afford it.  Hence, the lower tender (3rd rd) hoping no one would really make the move. 

     

     



    I thought they offered the low tender to attract the draft pick, but maybe they really were just hoping to sneak Sanders by, since RFAs rarely get offers.  Or maybe they did want a draft pick, but were hoping for something higher than New Englands' low third rounder.  Either way, the gamble didn't pay off for them, though at 2.5 million they are also not overpaying for Sanders this coming year.

     

    Pats now need to revert to whatever their plan B is.  Knowing BB, he was ready for this possibility and has something else up his sleeve.  

     

     
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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    Although I know some don't want to hear this, but the resigning of Edelman was a good move.  He's capable of getting 40 receptions as a WR in this offense.

    I think Sanders is a better WR, but the drop off isn't some huge dip either.

    I'd still like DeAndre Hopkins in Rd 1.  I think he'd be a great add even if raw.

     



    I agree. If BB is going to take a first round WR, I hope it is Hopkins. He can run the route tree and is decent at getting separation. His comparisons to Roddy White seem reasonable from what I have read.

     

     

     

    agreed

    he was my top wr for pats who i brought to the board before there was any discussion of him (pairing him with rogers ideally) along with some backup plan wrs.

    however our need is higher for a pass rusher. wihtout that i donmt know if we win a sb.

    so as long as we get one of carradine (carradine ideally), okafor, hunt along with hopkins and rogers, that would make the day

     



    Agree. Pass Rush and WR are the two biggest needs. Anything else is for depth purposes (CB, LB, OL, etc.). 

     

    I just can't see any way in which the Pats don't come out with at least one WR in this draft (assuming no trade for one). While pass rush is very important, in terms of skill level at each position, WR is the most lacking at the moment. 

     
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    I'm okay with this, in fact I never really liked it in the first place. Sanders is a decent receiver but isn't the guy we need, although I liked his blocking ability. He's kind of small and isn't the "deep threat" that a lot of people would like to see here. Lets see what we do with this 3rd round pick. There are some decent receivers out there. Maybe they grab one in the first round. 

     
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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    we aren't paying him as much as the falcons! but then we already won twice with him so if he left least we can say we had success with him before we let him walk

     

     

     


    Oh so the fact that the Giants let a guy walk for less money that we let Wes walk for means the Patriots are cheap and the Giants aren't.  I guess if we had won a SB with Wes you wouldn't be calling the Pats cheap right?  LMAO @ U troll.  You are an idiot.  I wonder what bs you'll be spinning when either Nicks or Cruz walks.

     



    I will say at least we WON with them before we let them walk  Yell

     

     



    Just wondering, why are you even here? Honestly, you don't like the Patriots which is fine because we all have our teams. You seem to like the Giants so why do you bother posting here? From the looks of it you must spend hours every day on this forum, with the amount of posts you've made.

     

    So why is it? if its to troll then you may have a serious problem that needs the attention of a professional. Maybe talk to someone about it. I'm not trying to insult you but this behavior is extremely odd. 

     
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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    I'm okay with this, in fact I never really liked it in the first place. Sanders is a decent receiver but isn't the guy we need, although I liked his blocking ability. He's kind of small and isn't the "deep threat" that a lot of people would like to see here. Lets see what we do with this 3rd round pick. There are some decent receivers out there. Maybe they grab one in the first round. 




    I didn't like it at first but as the options dwindled down I thought he was one of the better choices at the present time.  With the receiving core they have right now I think they need to bring in a NFL experienced WR who can be a starter.  I wouldn't like them starting the season with the current crop of WR's and a rookie or two.  I don't know who that experienced receiver would be at this point but if they can bring one in then maybe they only need to draft 1 WR to develop in the system.  Maybe this now opened the door for Lloyd to be brought back in.  I will keep my hopes up that they have some sort of plan for a trade.

     
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    Life goes on.  Draft one in 3rd rd perhaps re-sign Lloyd.

     
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    There never was an offer....it was a total conspiracy fabricated by Ron Borges...I'm telling ya..

    After Broom Hilda and her sidekick, The King of the Tin Foil Hat Fools sniffed out that Gronk doesn't even have an infection, and are not waiting for the infection to clear before the fourth surgery as medically prudent....it was a Ron Borges Hoax...

    And this tender offer....same BS....got Ron Borges written all over it.....damn conspiracies everywhere....lurking in the weeds...I can't take it...it's making me crazy....It was a conspiracy...before it wasn't...too much...

    No wonder MB was completely sold out of Tin Foil today.....

     




    Nice.

     
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    There was no way they were going to let this guy go for that amount, teams don't hang their franchise quarterbacks out to dry like that...well we do, but most others won't.

     
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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    Life goes on.  Draft one in 3rd rd perhaps re-sign Lloyd.




    Yeah, I agree. Why not just resign Lloyd? The only thing I can think of is that they are worried he will be rather bent and sulk/quit during the season if he does re-sign for less money. I can't imagine a guy that may be bi-polar (with a rep of not wanting to get hit) putting his all into it, but he looks like the best alternative at this point.

     
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    Re: Pit matched orrer sheet for Sanders

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    This is a strong draft for WR's. There is plenty of talent to be had after the first round. Robert Woods, Marcus Wheaton, Maybe Justin Hunter, DaRick Rogers, Steadman Bailey.

     




    Thats all fine and dandy, if only the Pats knew how to pick em.

     

     



    Notice how it changed when Brady wanted more shotgun. Branch and Givens were pretty good.

     

    lol




    Oh, yes, crusty.  The following future HoF receivers all failed because TB prefers the SG and all went on to light the world on fire.  Wait, did the horrible experience ruin them for life?

    Or did BB actually use a dart board with names,when selecting them?

    Patriots receivers drafted in the Belichick era (2000-present): Deion Branch (second, 2002), David Givens (second, 2002), Bethel Johnson (second, 2003), P.K. Sam (fifth, 2004), Chad Jackson (second, 2006), Brandon Tate (third, 2009), Julian Edelman (seventh, 2009), Taylor Price (third, 2010), Jeremy Ebert (seventh, 2012).

    Jeeze, will ya look at that list?  It's a wonder they won 4 games!

    Wow!  The best one is a 7th rounder.

    Guess 7th rounders are better in the SG, Right?

     

     
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    Merely exercising his first amendment right. Didn't realize professional help was necessary for opining a personal view on this forum. When will the hate stop?

     
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