Plagarist...liar?

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    Anybody that wants some insight into what kind of person Borges is, here is an excellent link for you:  http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/why-ron-borges-should-be-fired/5061/

    It is from 2006. But it is just as relevant today as it was then.

     



    I'll sum up that article for those who don't have the time to read it:

     

    The guys who wrote the article feel Borges should be fired because they don't like how he does his job.

    Why am I not surprised that you try to frame that article that way.

    Do yourselves a favor and read the article if you are on the fence instead of listening to an obvious troll.

     
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    The longtime faithful here will (hopefully) forgive me for once again prefacing my post with the disclaimer that I haven't read the five pages of (probable) nonsense one might expect in any thread with Ron Borges' name attached to it . . .  but I did want to jump in and ask if anybody here remembers those halcyon days when Ron Borges was a damn fine boxing writer (back when boxing used to be a sport people actually cared about) who could stand proudly on Sunday mornings alongside the likes of Bob Ryan and Peter Gammons and Bud Collins and even a much younger Dan Shaughnessy -- in his pre-CHB incarnation, when his ego had not yet been outsized by the dazzling prospect columnaryism --  (oh . . .  and by the way . . .    does anyone besides me remember how desperately Leigh Montiville wanted to be Dave Barry?)

     

    Anyway . . . 

     

    I forgot the point of my post.

     

    Never mind.

     

     

    Now you listen here! He's not the Messiah . . .   he's a very naughty boy!



     
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    Ron Borges was NOT fired from the Globe. He did plagiarize. He was a Patriots antagonist after Belichik came here ... speculation as to why is out there (hint: Bill released his sources, closed down access, and benched his best friend/source Bledsoe). 

    But he stepped down from the Globe, and was not fired. 

    Here is the story from the Globe itself:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/05/18/borges_retires_from_globe/

     



    Wrong Z...wrong, wrong, wrong...The Taylor's were always a class act...they gave the clown a chance to get another job and leave with his head up for past services rendered...ever since he's been a pouty , angry little man...Barnicle got the same treatment, then went and did it again with the NY paper...

     

    As Rusty says, can't make this stuff up...

    And I had family in BOTH Herald and Globe sports departments....it was all over the journalism business in the City, everyone in the biz knows what happened...

     

     



    Borges was a pouty, bitter man before the firing. He's had an ax to grind with Bill and the Pats for a while!

     

     

    Barnicle DID get the option to step down or be fired, but his offenses were spread out over a period of time, he had no credit line to even veil his plagiarism. He outright fabricated stories (about sick children in a hospital). And IIRC Barnacle and the Globe admitted it as such.

    It's apples and oranges. 

    Borges was lazy and dishonest.

    Barnacle was just making stuff up all over the place, and was aksed to resign. 

    Those are two very different degrees of plagiarism. In academia, one is a failed assignment, the other is expulsion from the university. 

    The resignation story, versus the retirement story, were two totally different textures that matched the severity. One is an offense that warrants suspension, the other warrants termination. Likewise, Barnacle's resignation announcement was about leaving because it was "the best for the Globe," while Borges announcement was about him "to pursue other ventures" or whatever.

    One is very likely a forced resignation. The other looks like a decision to part ways.   

    As far as the 'family' goes, I'm not going to touch that beyond the fact that anyone on the internet can say that they have family and sources anywhere. It happens every day on this forum when people want to win an argument. I'm not calling you a liar, I just don't believe anyone (including some friends) on this forum that claim 'inside information'. 

    Sorry.

    I guess i'd believe you if you provided me with contact information about the 'people' that worked at both departments though. 

    You'll forgive me, I like your posts ... but really, how many people here would you take at their word about a source? Really?




    I have one family member who's in the Hoickey Hall of Fame for Hockey writing...if you are as smart as you claim you'll figure it out...nuff said both ways...


    and yes, it's me...NYjetssuc...lol

     

     

     

     

     



    You see, now I sincerely doubt this is NYjetssuc. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Why sign in with a different handle? Lol.

    haha. 

    I see you are insinuating that NYjetsuc is related to Kevin Paul Dupont. If NYJetssuc himself will verify this, I'll hop on it. 

     

     

     

     




    Older...and wrong newspaper...Dupont is a comparative pup in relation to this man

     

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Hmmm. Why are you being so evasive? Changing profiles? Making veiled allusions?

     

     

     

    This is exactly why I don't believe people on internet fora. If you are related to a guy, just say it. 

    FWIW, the Herald doesn't have a Hockey Hall of Fame writer on its staff ... so I don't know where you are going with this. 

     

     



    It DID...he retired.....and he had another member on the Globe sports staff....like I said, if you are as plugged into the Boston sports scene and you are as bright as I think you are, you'll figure it out..it's not hard to do....I don't think more than 2 are in the HOF from Boston...sheesh...and I don't want to put my name on these pages...for anyone...period...would YOU, knowing some of the wingnuts here?!...LOL! You type the initials of the guy, and I'll...wait...his initials are D.L.M..that's all you'll get from me...I don't want his name spelled out here...Bye...I'm going to watch the Butler...I don't spend all day here...I'd turn into Not A Shot or the old man Babe P...no thanks...

     

     

    It's really easy to fiugure out...I just gave it away...

     

     

    First, I never said I 'think I'm bright' ... that is what you are saying. 

    So you are now saying Monohan is your relative? He retired in 1990. He is not a source. Certainly not a credible one. He isn't a source with the Globe or the Herald.

    The only thing dropping his name right now does is gives you a "source" that no one can question or track, even if he'd been retired for almost two decades when Borges resigned. 

    That fact that you've danced around it and produced nothing affirms my suspicion.

    No I don't believe you. Sorry NyJS.  

    Like I said, anyone can make up any story about knowing anyone at any paper or sports organization on the internet, especially to win a heated debate, like your debate with NAS.

    Also, why are you worried about spelling out his name ... you just did. He doesn't have active contact information with the Herald, so there is no way it comes to touch his family? Are worried he'll find out you are dropping his name? LOL.

     



    Well Z you've dropped way down in my estimation...you failed to read what I wrote to you...he wasn't the only relative I had in Boston sports sections of the TWO major dailies here in Boston...man, you are really not alot better than NAS  or Rusty or anyone else when it comes to not being able to live with someone saying you're wrong...LMFAO!..so, you're human...not an icon...who knew...LOL...it's OK, really!

     

    First, my cousin is in the Hockey HOF for writing...what HOF are you in?..He stayed connected to friends in a very small community in this city for years after his retirement from the Herald...and went to work for the the Sporting News covering Hockey for them when he left the Herald...you didn't find that I guess......

    I have another cousin who worked in the sports department as a reporter for the GLOBE at the same time all this crud was going on with THE LIAR.....that's how I know what happened...since you know the last name you should be able to figure it out...so there...I mean, now that you've put the name out there when I asked you not to, do your due dilligence to prove you are right and I am wrong, which it seems you NEED to do just like every other shmoo here, then come back with your detective work and let us see what you find...I say that in as nice a way as I can, because I DO actually respect you, just feel pretty good that you've managed to take some of the lustre off your own image here...your fault, not mine...BTW...why don't you tell us who YOUR checking with to verify stuff?...if it's just the Net, shame on you....if it's a person, let's hear it....your turn to prove who and what you know and how...

    Welcome to the club...and NAS is a .........nevermind!

     
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    I guess that settles it...LOL

     
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    Well after working my way through the rhetoric of this thread to see what kind of consenus there is regarding whether Borges is really a liar or not, I've come to the conclusion that "Not a Shot" must be either a close friend of Borges or his attorney or both. 

     

    What is most important to me as a Patriot's Fan is that any enemy of the Patriots is my enemy.  Borges has proved to be an enemy and not just a "journalist".  So the only thing I can do for Borges is to sing him a Hymn.   F        Hymn.

     

    Borges and Tommasee  (SP)  articles are not even suitable for toilet paper.     Ever since Spygate these guys are dead to me.

     

     
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    Ron Borges was NOT fired from the Globe. He did plagiarize. He was a Patriots antagonist after Belichik came here ... speculation as to why is out there (hint: Bill released his sources, closed down access, and benched his best friend/source Bledsoe). 

    But he stepped down from the Globe, and was not fired. 

    Here is the story from the Globe itself:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/05/18/borges_retires_from_globe/

     



    Wrong Z...wrong, wrong, wrong...The Taylor's were always a class act...they gave the clown a chance to get another job and leave with his head up for past services rendered...ever since he's been a pouty , angry little man...Barnicle got the same treatment, then went and did it again with the NY paper...

     

    As Rusty says, can't make this stuff up...

    And I had family in BOTH Herald and Globe sports departments....it was all over the journalism business in the City, everyone in the biz knows what happened...

     

     



    Borges was a pouty, bitter man before the firing. He's had an ax to grind with Bill and the Pats for a while!

     

     

    Barnicle DID get the option to step down or be fired, but his offenses were spread out over a period of time, he had no credit line to even veil his plagiarism. He outright fabricated stories (about sick children in a hospital). And IIRC Barnacle and the Globe admitted it as such.

    It's apples and oranges. 

    Borges was lazy and dishonest.

    Barnacle was just making stuff up all over the place, and was aksed to resign. 

    Those are two very different degrees of plagiarism. In academia, one is a failed assignment, the other is expulsion from the university. 

    The resignation story, versus the retirement story, were two totally different textures that matched the severity. One is an offense that warrants suspension, the other warrants termination. Likewise, Barnacle's resignation announcement was about leaving because it was "the best for the Globe," while Borges announcement was about him "to pursue other ventures" or whatever.

    One is very likely a forced resignation. The other looks like a decision to part ways.   

    As far as the 'family' goes, I'm not going to touch that beyond the fact that anyone on the internet can say that they have family and sources anywhere. It happens every day on this forum when people want to win an argument. I'm not calling you a liar, I just don't believe anyone (including some friends) on this forum that claim 'inside information'. 

    Sorry.

    I guess i'd believe you if you provided me with contact information about the 'people' that worked at both departments though. 

    You'll forgive me, I like your posts ... but really, how many people here would you take at their word about a source? Really?




    I have one family member who's in the Hoickey Hall of Fame for Hockey writing...if you are as smart as you claim you'll figure it out...nuff said both ways...


    and yes, it's me...NYjetssuc...lol

     

     

     

     

     



    You see, now I sincerely doubt this is NYjetssuc. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Why sign in with a different handle? Lol.

    haha. 

    I see you are insinuating that NYjetsuc is related to Kevin Paul Dupont. If NYJetssuc himself will verify this, I'll hop on it. 

     

     

     

     




    Older...and wrong newspaper...Dupont is a comparative pup in relation to this man

     

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Hmmm. Why are you being so evasive? Changing profiles? Making veiled allusions?

     

     

     

    This is exactly why I don't believe people on internet fora. If you are related to a guy, just say it. 

    FWIW, the Herald doesn't have a Hockey Hall of Fame writer on its staff ... so I don't know where you are going with this. 

     

     



    It DID...he retired.....and he had another member on the Globe sports staff....like I said, if you are as plugged into the Boston sports scene and you are as bright as I think you are, you'll figure it out..it's not hard to do....I don't think more than 2 are in the HOF from Boston...sheesh...and I don't want to put my name on these pages...for anyone...period...would YOU, knowing some of the wingnuts here?!...LOL! You type the initials of the guy, and I'll...wait...his initials are D.L.M..that's all you'll get from me...I don't want his name spelled out here...Bye...I'm going to watch the Butler...I don't spend all day here...I'd turn into Not A Shot or the old man Babe P...no thanks...

     

     

    It's really easy to fiugure out...I just gave it away...

     

     

    First, I never said I 'think I'm bright' ... that is what you are saying. 

    So you are now saying Monohan is your relative? He retired in 1990. He is not a source. Certainly not a credible one. He isn't a source with the Globe or the Herald.

    The only thing dropping his name right now does is gives you a "source" that no one can question or track, even if he'd been retired for almost two decades when Borges resigned. 

    That fact that you've danced around it and produced nothing affirms my suspicion.

    No I don't believe you. Sorry NyJS.  

    Like I said, anyone can make up any story about knowing anyone at any paper or sports organization on the internet, especially to win a heated debate, like your debate with NAS.

    Also, why are you worried about spelling out his name ... you just did. He doesn't have active contact information with the Herald, so there is no way it comes to touch his family? Are worried he'll find out you are dropping his name? LOL.

     



    Well Z you've dropped way down in my estimation...you failed to read what I wrote to you...he wasn't the only relative I had in Boston sports sections of the TWO major dailies here in Boston...man, you are really not alot better than NAS  or Rusty or anyone else when it comes to not being able to live with someone saying you're wrong...LMFAO!..so, you're human...not an icon...who knew...LOL...it's OK, really!

     

    First, my cousin is in the Hockey HOF for writing...what HOF are you in?..He stayed connected to friends in a very small community in this city for years after his retirement from the Herald...and went to work for the the Sporting News covering Hockey for them when he left the Herald...you didn't find that I guess......

    I have another cousin who worked in the sports department as a reporter for the GLOBE at the same time all this crud was going on with THE LIAR.....that's how I know what happened...since you know the last name you should be able to figure it out...so there...I mean, now that you've put the name out there when I asked you not to, do your due dilligence to prove you are right and I am wrong, which it seems you NEED to do just like every other shmoo here, then come back with your detective work and let us see what you find...I say that in as nice a way as I can, because I DO actually respect you, just feel pretty good that you've managed to take some of the lustre off your own image here...your fault, not mine...BTW...why don't you tell us who YOUR checking with to verify stuff?...if it's just the Net, shame on you....if it's a person, let's hear it....your turn to prove who and what you know and how...

    Welcome to the club...and NAS is a .........nevermind!

     

     

     

     

    So again, why are you worried about dropping DLM's name (which you never asked me not to say) but you'll drop his initials, and his credentials, like someone can't just google it?

    Do you think I'm going to harrass him or something?

    As far as the other 'M', he retired in 2006 from the Globe. My source is the retirement stub posted by ... the Globe ... that's a year before the Borges story was even filed, that and more before Borges resigned. Apparently what the Globe publishes about itself doesn't have much credibility with you? And again, BM is another source that is unverifiable because he is retired. 

    As far as your opinion of me goes, I'm glad that you had some esteem. But sorry ... I don't particularly care if I lost some. I'm not doing anything wrong.... I just don't believe that you had any sources ... I think people who say that make it up to win arguments. Nothing magical ... every other day on this forum someone claims 'inside sources'.

    But filing me in with Rusty and NAS? Ok. Please. I could just as easily file you in with Commy Contrarian, et al, in the group of people who pretend they are insiders so they can win internet p!ssing matches?

    Also, I've made no special claims. So there is nothing for me to back up. I've questioned you about your sources, and all you've come up with are retired names that absolutely anyone could affiliate themselves with after being questioned. And, mind you, you've done it in a really sketchy way ... 1.) signing in and out as another poster, 2.) giving initials and credentials but pretending you won't give names (the former is as good as this,) 3.) doing so with names that are unverifiable because, being retired, they have zero contact information professionally. 

    Forgive me, really, but would YOU trust this ^ person after all that? Don't bother saying you would. You'd assume it was internet nonsense, which is what I'm doing. 

    Sorry ... not being antagonistic but ... "you said so" proves nothing. 

    Lastly, third time asking ... please answer ... are you afraid I'm going to contact DLM?




    Ahhh...you could try...but he's deceased...nice one goof ball....

     

     

    You are just like everyone else here...just can't stand to be proven wrong...and just the same as NAS.....will only believe what you believe.....that's OK...see ya

    BTW...by your way of figuring...even you are just so much internet nonsense... as well as everyone here...nice thought...

     
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    Well after working my way through the rhetoric of this thread to see what kind of consenus there is regarding whether Borges is really a liar or not, I've come to the conclusion that "Not a Shot" must be either a close friend of Borges or his attorney or both. 

     

    What is most important to me as a Patriot's Fan is that any enemy of the Patriots is my enemy.  Borges has proved to be an enemy and not just a "journalist".  So the only thing I can do for Borges is to sing him a Hymn.   F        Hymn.

     

    Borges and Tommasee  (SP)  articles are not even suitable for toilet paper.     Ever since Spygate these guys are dead to me.

     

     




     

    LOL. Nah. I still want to know exactly why he brought Borges up. 

    This thread almost comes out of the blue, outside of the RS story. 

    My guess is he is playing Devil's advocate with Borges to continue his fight with Rusty. 

    My guess on the specifics would be that he is saying Borges is credible and thus the sources he has in the story are credible and that BB did all the things that RS said he did. 

    My answer would be: bollocks. 

    AH: I think I'm going to be murdered.

    BB: Yeah, man. You're on the lam ... get a 'flophouse' and lay low for a bit AH.

    What is BB a gangster? He wouldn't suggest AH, perhaps, call the cops? It's a "family member" of AH who said this? Do they even try to make their stories credible? I teach writing ... and critique writing ... for a living. It's not even credible fiction because it's so out of character.

    The whole story is a bogus fabrication by a disgruntled ex-Cop positing a non-sequitur (that he could have prevented the killing, even though his answer as to how makes zero sense ... by calling NE? Yeah, right. BB could rush down to Attleboro and nab a gun from AH because some retired cop was "on the case."

    You know what IS logical and consistent with out experience? Borges trying to drag BB through the mud because he pinched Borges' sources a long time ago, and fired his buddy Drew because he was 1/10th the QB that Brady was. 

    Know how I know? He's been slinging that nonsense for years. 

     



    We can agree on that...Borges is constitutionally incapable of being objective when it comes to the Pats...so is Felger because one of the Pats threatened to smush his face around when he wrote something the guy didn't like...a B.S. move, I know, but from such things are bad press friends made...

     
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    Ron Borges was NOT fired from the Globe. He did plagiarize. He was a Patriots antagonist after Belichik came here ... speculation as to why is out there (hint: Bill released his sources, closed down access, and benched his best friend/source Bledsoe). 

    But he stepped down from the Globe, and was not fired. 

    Here is the story from the Globe itself:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/05/18/borges_retires_from_globe/

     



    Wrong Z...wrong, wrong, wrong...The Taylor's were always a class act...they gave the clown a chance to get another job and leave with his head up for past services rendered...ever since he's been a pouty , angry little man...Barnicle got the same treatment, then went and did it again with the NY paper...

     

    As Rusty says, can't make this stuff up...

    And I had family in BOTH Herald and Globe sports departments....it was all over the journalism business in the City, everyone in the biz knows what happened...

     

     



    Borges was a pouty, bitter man before the firing. He's had an ax to grind with Bill and the Pats for a while!

     

     

    Barnicle DID get the option to step down or be fired, but his offenses were spread out over a period of time, he had no credit line to even veil his plagiarism. He outright fabricated stories (about sick children in a hospital). And IIRC Barnacle and the Globe admitted it as such.

    It's apples and oranges. 

    Borges was lazy and dishonest.

    Barnacle was just making stuff up all over the place, and was aksed to resign. 

    Those are two very different degrees of plagiarism. In academia, one is a failed assignment, the other is expulsion from the university. 

    The resignation story, versus the retirement story, were two totally different textures that matched the severity. One is an offense that warrants suspension, the other warrants termination. Likewise, Barnacle's resignation announcement was about leaving because it was "the best for the Globe," while Borges announcement was about him "to pursue other ventures" or whatever.

    One is very likely a forced resignation. The other looks like a decision to part ways.   

    As far as the 'family' goes, I'm not going to touch that beyond the fact that anyone on the internet can say that they have family and sources anywhere. It happens every day on this forum when people want to win an argument. I'm not calling you a liar, I just don't believe anyone (including some friends) on this forum that claim 'inside information'. 

    Sorry.

    I guess i'd believe you if you provided me with contact information about the 'people' that worked at both departments though. 

    You'll forgive me, I like your posts ... but really, how many people here would you take at their word about a source? Really?




    I have one family member who's in the Hoickey Hall of Fame for Hockey writing...if you are as smart as you claim you'll figure it out...nuff said both ways...


    and yes, it's me...NYjetssuc...lol

     

     

     

     

     



    You see, now I sincerely doubt this is NYjetssuc. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Why sign in with a different handle? Lol.

    haha. 

    I see you are insinuating that NYjetsuc is related to Kevin Paul Dupont. If NYJetssuc himself will verify this, I'll hop on it. 

     

     

     

     




    Older...and wrong newspaper...Dupont is a comparative pup in relation to this man

     

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Hmmm. Why are you being so evasive? Changing profiles? Making veiled allusions?

     

     

     

    This is exactly why I don't believe people on internet fora. If you are related to a guy, just say it. 

    FWIW, the Herald doesn't have a Hockey Hall of Fame writer on its staff ... so I don't know where you are going with this. 

     

     



    It DID...he retired.....and he had another member on the Globe sports staff....like I said, if you are as plugged into the Boston sports scene and you are as bright as I think you are, you'll figure it out..it's not hard to do....I don't think more than 2 are in the HOF from Boston...sheesh...and I don't want to put my name on these pages...for anyone...period...would YOU, knowing some of the wingnuts here?!...LOL! You type the initials of the guy, and I'll...wait...his initials are D.L.M..that's all you'll get from me...I don't want his name spelled out here...Bye...I'm going to watch the Butler...I don't spend all day here...I'd turn into Not A Shot or the old man Babe P...no thanks...

     

     

    It's really easy to fiugure out...I just gave it away...

     

     

    First, I never said I 'think I'm bright' ... that is what you are saying. 

    So you are now saying Monohan is your relative? He retired in 1990. He is not a source. Certainly not a credible one. He isn't a source with the Globe or the Herald.

    The only thing dropping his name right now does is gives you a "source" that no one can question or track, even if he'd been retired for almost two decades when Borges resigned. 

    That fact that you've danced around it and produced nothing affirms my suspicion.

    No I don't believe you. Sorry NyJS.  

    Like I said, anyone can make up any story about knowing anyone at any paper or sports organization on the internet, especially to win a heated debate, like your debate with NAS.

    Also, why are you worried about spelling out his name ... you just did. He doesn't have active contact information with the Herald, so there is no way it comes to touch his family? Are worried he'll find out you are dropping his name? LOL.

     



    Well Z you've dropped way down in my estimation...you failed to read what I wrote to you...he wasn't the only relative I had in Boston sports sections of the TWO major dailies here in Boston...man, you are really not alot better than NAS  or Rusty or anyone else when it comes to not being able to live with someone saying you're wrong...LMFAO!..so, you're human...not an icon...who knew...LOL...it's OK, really!

     

    First, my cousin is in the Hockey HOF for writing...what HOF are you in?..He stayed connected to friends in a very small community in this city for years after his retirement from the Herald...and went to work for the the Sporting News covering Hockey for them when he left the Herald...you didn't find that I guess......

    I have another cousin who worked in the sports department as a reporter for the GLOBE at the same time all this crud was going on with THE LIAR.....that's how I know what happened...since you know the last name you should be able to figure it out...so there...I mean, now that you've put the name out there when I asked you not to, do your due dilligence to prove you are right and I am wrong, which it seems you NEED to do just like every other shmoo here, then come back with your detective work and let us see what you find...I say that in as nice a way as I can, because I DO actually respect you, just feel pretty good that you've managed to take some of the lustre off your own image here...your fault, not mine...BTW...why don't you tell us who YOUR checking with to verify stuff?...if it's just the Net, shame on you....if it's a person, let's hear it....your turn to prove who and what you know and how...

    Welcome to the club...and NAS is a .........nevermind!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    So again, why are you worried about dropping DLM's name (which you never asked me not to say) but you'll drop his initials, and his credentials, like someone can't just google it?

    Do you think I'm going to harrass him or something?

    As far as the other 'M', he retired in 2006 from the Globe. My source is the retirement stub posted by ... the Globe ... that's a year before the Borges story was even filed, that and more before Borges resigned. Apparently what the Globe publishes about itself doesn't have much credibility with you? And again, BM is another source that is unverifiable because he is retired. 

    As far as your opinion of me goes, I'm glad that you had some esteem. But sorry ... I don't particularly care if I lost some. I'm not doing anything wrong.... I just don't believe that you had any sources ... I think people who say that make it up to win arguments. Nothing magical ... every other day on this forum someone claims 'inside sources'.

    But filing me in with Rusty and NAS? Ok. Please. I could just as easily file you in with Commy Contrarian, et al, in the group of people who pretend they are insiders so they can win internet p!ssing matches?

    Also, I've made no special claims. So there is nothing for me to back up. I've questioned you about your sources, and all you've come up with are retired names that absolutely anyone could affiliate themselves with after being questioned. And, mind you, you've done it in a really sketchy way ... 1.) signing in and out as another poster, 2.) giving initials and credentials but pretending you won't give names (the former is as good as this,) 3.) doing so with names that are unverifiable because, being retired, they have zero contact information professionally. 

    Forgive me, really, but would YOU trust this ^ person after all that? Don't bother saying you would. You'd assume it was internet nonsense, which is what I'm doing. 

    Sorry ... not being antagonistic but ... "you said so" proves nothing. 

    Lastly, third time asking ... please answer ... are you afraid I'm going to contact DLM?

     

     




    Ahhh...you could try...but he's deceased...nice one goof ball....

     

     

     

    You are just like everyone else here...just can't stand to be proven wrong...and just the same as NAS.....will only believe what you believe.....that's OK...see ya

     



    At least you got that one right. 

     

    Well, I can stand to be proven wrong. I don't mind it one bit. What does irk me a bit is people making stuff up on the internet because it's east to do so.  

    But ... ahem ... you haven't proven anything man.

    You have a nice little story that is completely unverifiable: and in this context utterly unbelievable. One email, one shred of proof? That would "prove" something. You've proven nothing. 

    Wait ... here we go. I know someone too! They are also retired from the Globe. They told ME the opposite of what you just said! They also said, they know DLM and BM and you aren't related to them. 

    See how that works?

    Now I've "proven" you wrong. 

    Crack a dictionary ... look up the word PROOF ... compare it to the few things you've done ... then come back and cut me some slack for not believing you. 

    Peace. 




    Yeah...only problem is...they ARE my family....and YOU can't stand losing an arguement...LMAO!!!

    Crack this...lmfao!!!!

     
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    In response to russgriswold's comment:

    And what are you doing, Z? Just picking the opposite to also troll and play contrarian, to support trolls like NAS and TFB12 who tell the board Borges was only accidentally suspended before his retirement?

    Yes, people always get suspended for 2 months prior to their planned retirement.

    LMAO

    Just go away and leave the thread. People like you are a joke here.  


    There are no "objective" posters here...only those who want others to believe they are...no more, no less...no exceptions...ever..LMFAO!

    In some ways they are worse than the Phat Rexes of the world....

     
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    Well after working my way through the rhetoric of this thread to see what kind of consenus there is regarding whether Borges is really a liar or not, I've come to the conclusion that "Not a Shot" must be either a close friend of Borges or his attorney or both. 

     

    What is most important to me as a Patriot's Fan is that any enemy of the Patriots is my enemy.  Borges has proved to be an enemy and not just a "journalist".  So the only thing I can do for Borges is to sing him a Hymn.   F        Hymn.

     

    Borges and Tommasee  (SP)  articles are not even suitable for toilet paper.     Ever since Spygate these guys are dead to me.

     

     




     

    LOL. Nah. I still want to know exactly why he brought Borges up. 

    This thread almost comes out of the blue, outside of the RS story. 

    My guess is he is playing Devil's advocate with Borges to continue his fight with Rusty. 

    My guess on the specifics would be that he is saying Borges is credible and thus the sources he has in the story are credible and that BB did all the things that RS said he did. 

    My answer would be: bollocks. 

    AH: I think I'm going to be murdered.

    BB: Yeah, man. You're on the lam ... get a 'flophouse' and lay low for a bit AH.

    What is BB a gangster? He wouldn't suggest AH, perhaps, call the cops? It's a "family member" of AH who said this? Do they even try to make their stories credible? I teach writing ... and critique writing ... for a living. It's not even credible fiction because it's so out of character.

    The whole story is a bogus fabrication by a disgruntled ex-Cop positing a non-sequitur (that he could have prevented the killing, even though his answer as to how makes zero sense ... by calling NE? Yeah, right. BB could rush down to Attleboro and nab a gun from AH because some retired cop was "on the case."

    You know what IS logical and consistent with out experience? Borges trying to drag BB through the mud because he pinched Borges' sources a long time ago, and fired his buddy Drew because he was 1/10th the QB that Brady was. 

    Know how I know? He's been slinging that nonsense for years. 

     



    You're right. The RS article simply defies any semblence of reasonable logic.    And to use as a defense of the article and I paraphrase here "well it is possible that it could have happened" is ludicrous.   It's 6:10 PM here in NC right now and I just checked the outside temperature which reads 86 Degrees.  Now it is possible for the temperature to drop below freezing tonight but extremely improbabable.  It's just as improbabe that RK and BB were aware of just how messed up AH was prior to giving him that massive contract.   RK became a Billionaire by being that Stupid?  BB suggesting that AH get a safe house?   Really?  Talk about Ludicrous!

     
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    I'll return to reading this thread when you idiots learn how the quote box feature works.

     
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    You're right. The RS article simply defies any semblence of reasonable logic.    And to use as a defense of the article and I paraphrase here "well it is possible that it could have happened" is ludicrous.   It's 6:10 PM here in NC right now and I just checked the outside temperature which reads 86 Degrees.  Now it is possible for the temperature to drop below freezing tonight but extremely improbabable.  It's just as improbabe that RK and BB were aware of just how messed up AH was prior to giving him that massive contract.   RK became a Billionaire by being that Stupid?  BB suggesting that AH get a safe house?   Really?  Talk about Ludicrous!

     



    Nailed it.

    It's the kind of writing that caters to the conspiracy theorists who lack common sense.  If the article had been written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards it would be more believable to me.

     
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    Who is the idiot? You haven't figured out that your pal Bungalow Bill is the same guy as Phat Rex, anonymis and a host of others...



    Okay Rusty.

     
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    Who is the idiot? You haven't figured out that your pal Bungalow Bill is the same guy as Phat Rex, anonymis and a host of others...

     



    Okay Rusty.

     



    RUSTY, RUSTY, RUSTY...get a life man, you see Rusty everywhere...you are OBSESSED!!!!!

     
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    I'll return to reading this thread when you idiots learn how the quote box feature works.

     




    I think we would all be perfectly happy if you didn't.

     

     

    The Bruins forum seems like a much more suitable place for you. You guys can all sit around sniffing Jacobs' jock and talking about how they are going to win the next 10 Cups like the dudes in the SNL Da Bears sketches. Love the enthusiasm. But they are a little bit touched over there.

     
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