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    Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 9:29 AM EST

    Assume that the Pats, Baltimore and Houston all win out.  They will all be 13-2 and will all have a 10-2 conference record.  Who gets the #1, #2 and #3?
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 12:23 PM EST

    No one knows?
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 12:30 PM EST

     ESPN is just now reporting that Tim Tebow knows how the seeding will play out. Wants to thank god and just try to be the best he can. The scientific community has undenyable proof that no one works harders and prepares better than TT. 

    maybe after he's done supporting TT with his football career God can take a look at cancer or world hunger or something. Not now.. I mean when he gets a minute..
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 12:39 PM EST

    It that would be the case, I believe the strength of victory or schedule is the tiebreaker. So it depends on a lot of other games. Currently Baltimore played teams with 57-59 combined records, Houston 48-69, and NE 46-71 (I may be off in my calculations, but do not have time to double-check)

     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 1:30 PM EST

    Baltimore beat Houston in Week 6, So Baltimore and NE would be 1 & 2.  Hou would be 3.  We would be #2 over Houston based on strength of victory, but than can change based on what other teams do.
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 1:42 PM EST

    You mean 13-3?
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 1:48 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Playoff seeding:
    You mean 13-3?
    Posted by schwank


    Fat fingers Cool  Yes, 13-3
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 1:54 PM EST

    Baltimore has Houston head to head.

    If it comes down to strength of conferene victory i think it would go Balt, NE, HOU.

    Of course if Balt were to lose then Pitt has the head to head over NE.  If the Pats win out, they will get a first round bye.

    The other interesting piece to the seeding is that Pitt or Baltimore will be the five seed and as impressive as beating Caleb Hanie in OT is, I tend to think either Pitt or Balt will handle the Tebows, so with that in mind it is possible the 2 seed might be more favorable than the 1.  Unless of course 3rd seeded Houston loses to the 6th seed.... 

    To many what ifs still, just hammer Denver on Sunday!!
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/12/2011 2:25 PM EST

    Ok, here are the first rules to apply:
    To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.

    These are:

    Three or More Clubs
    (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

    1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
    2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    5. Strength of victory.
    6. Strength of schedule.
    7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9. Best net points in conference games.
    10. Best net points in all games.
    11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12. Coin toss

    Rules 1, 2 and 3 are the same.  Rule 4 doesn't apply because there are not four games of common opponents.  So it comes down to rule 5, strength of victory, the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.  As of now it is:

    NE:  54-76   Remaining:  17-22     Total:  71-98

    HOU: 52-78  Remaining;  11-28    Total: 63-106

    Baltimore:  Forget about it.

    So, as it stands today, Baltimore is the #1, and we are the #2.  Also, the rest of our schedule is harder than Houston's, so if we both win out, we beat them for a bye.

     

     

     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 12:21 AM EST

    Pats have tiebreaker against Houston if they both win out so #2 at worst-not sure about Bmore.In Response to Playoff seeding:
    Assume that the Pats, Baltimore and Houston all win out.  They will all be 13-2 and will all have a 10-2 conference record.  Who gets the #1, #2 and #3?
    Posted by sheldong

     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 12:26 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Playoff seeding:
    Pats have tiebreaker against Houston if they both win out so #2 at worst-not sure about Bmore.In Response to Playoff seeding :
    Posted by jimmytantric


    nfl network was saying by end of season, if balt wins out they beat pats for top spot.


     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 3:23 AM EST

    HOU has four common opponents- Indy win, MIA win, Pitt win, and OAK loss. 3-1 common opponents, same as pats. BAL four common opponents are Pitt win, NYJ win, IND win, and SD haven't played. Pitt lost the head to head matchup so if they win out and BAL wins out Pitt will be a wild card so it would come down to common opponents next for NE and BAL. BAL beat Houston head to head and holds the common opponent advantage (3-1 vs 4-0) over NE if they win out so they are the number one seed if that happens. As you pointed out with the top four tiebreakers the same between HOU and NE it goes to strength of victory and NE has the advantage for the 2 seed, HOU the 3.
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 8:13 AM EST

    We need Texans to lose one game so we can get the #2 seed.

    Houston is one of four AFC teams at 10-3, and if the playoffs started today, the Texans would be the top seed by virtue of their 8-2 conference record.

    Baltimore would be the second seed, followed by the Patriots.

    The Ravens get the nod based on the next tiebreaker, strength of victory - the combined record of teams Baltimore has beaten is better than that of the teams the Patriots have defeated.

    The fourth 10-3 team, the Steelers, would be seeded fifth - Pittsburgh has lost twice to the Ravens, their AFC North rivals, giving Baltimore the head-to-head matchup, which is the first tiebreaker for a division title.

     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 9:06 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Playoff seeding:
    We need Texans to lose one game so we can get the #2 seed. Houston is one of four AFC teams at 10-3, and if the playoffs started today, the Texans would be the top seed by virtue of their 8-2 conference record. Baltimore would be the second seed, followed by the Patriots. The Ravens get the nod based on the next tiebreaker, strength of victory - the combined record of teams Baltimore has beaten is better than that of the teams the Patriots have defeated. The fourth 10-3 team, the Steelers, would be seeded fifth - Pittsburgh has lost twice to the Ravens, their AFC North rivals, giving Baltimore the head-to-head matchup, which is the first tiebreaker for a division title.
    Posted by Seastixholdersince1971


    You're looking at skewed information.  Houston has the conference advantage on us now because they have played one more conference game.  They are 8-2 in conference and we are 7-2.  If we both win out that tiebreaker is null.
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 9:09 AM EST

    The same applies to Baltimore at 7-2.
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 9:39 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Playoff seeding:
    The same applies to Baltimore at 7-2.
    Posted by sbruce9


    That's right. So it looks like the Pats will probably get #2 seed as they need both Baltimore and Pittsburg to lose to get #1.
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 10:10 AM EST

    if bal, hou and NE all win out it will be 1.)Balt 2.)NE 3.)Hou
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 8:15 PM EST

    Thanks for the clarification. I will take 2nd seed in a heartbeat! We'd get winner of Jets/Houston  vs Pitt/Denver.In Response to Re: Playoff seeding:
    In Response to Re: Playoff seeding : nfl network was saying by end of season, if balt wins out they beat pats for top spot.
    Posted by bredbru

     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 8:50 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Playoff seeding:
    Thanks for the clarification. I will take 2nd seed in a heartbeat! We'd get winner of Jets/Houston  vs Pitt/Denver.In Response to Re: Playoff seeding :
    Posted by jimmytantric


    Not necessarily!  If the Jets wind up as the #6 (the best they can hope for), and they beat Houston, then they will play Baltimore and we get the winner of the Pitt/Denver game.
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 10:39 PM EST

    isnt it interesting that if we hadnt had to play indy this year (or houston having to play them twice!) that our strength of victory would be alot higher?

    it actually hurt us in the tiebreakers to have to play them this year

    i suppose getting the W is more important that tiebreakers tho cuz if you win the games, tiebreakers dont matter
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 10:53 PM EST

     The Indy game does not make a diferrence currently because Baltimore had to play them also. Houston had to play them twice which may actually be helping the Pats. It does feel weird though, rooting for the Ravens because the Pats lost to the Steelers.
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 10:59 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Playoff seeding:
     The Indy game does not make a diferrence currently because Baltimore had to play them also. Houston had to play them twice which may actually be helping the Pats. It does feel weird though, rooting for the Ravens because the Pats lost to the Steelers.
    Posted by ccnsd


    as i understand it, its not an either or situation tho right?  needs to be both bal and pit to lose if the pats want the 1 seed

    *EDIT* and probably houston has to lose too
     

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    Re: Playoff seeding

    posted at 12/13/2011 11:05 PM EST

     Now that the Patriots are done playing NFC teams you are probably right. But these past few weeks I assumed the Texans would lose with all their injuries. So if Baltimore and New England win out (and Houston lost) I hoped some mathematical formula would get the Pats the one seed (obviously impossible if it's NE/Pitt).