Please Forgive Me

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    Ever since BB let the Colts put up 21 4th quarter points they have gained confidence and are playing well every week. BB the master Colts motivator?
    Done by design?

    Undy? Opinions?
     
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    I find it adorable that the coach and team decided to win after Polian chucked them under the bus.  And I hope they DO get luck.  That will force the end of the Manning marriage, and at this point, he's the least greasy thing in that whole stinking rotten drunken dirty organization.  He is done, but obviously wants that 28 million still, so he will pretend he can play, they will have to take Luck and dump him, and that will be the end of the Clots.  As much as I am NOT a Manning fan, no way Luck is, or will be, as good as Peyton Manning.  If he works out really great for them, he may be as good as Eli.  More likely he's Cooper. Good that they are getting exposed for the fraud "saintly" organization they are.  
     
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    In Response to Re: Please Forgive Me:
    In Response to Re: Please Forgive Me : Do you know that Manning is capable of retuning to previous form? Let's deal in what we know. Manning is coming off Spinal Fusion surgery, he is going to be 36 and will have not played a down in over a year. Are you advocating or theorizing the Colts pass on Luck if they indeed get the first pick and Manning is cleared to play?
    Posted by jri37


    No, I don't think the colts will pass on Luck, and I don't think the rhetorical question in my previous post suggested that. 

    If Luck is available, I think the colts take him even if Manning is fully healthy.
     
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    In Response to Re: Please Forgive Me : I agree that Luck is no guarantee, but unless you are defining real positive impact as future hall of famer I think you are wrong with the above statement.  You're telling me that Carson Palmer, Michael Vick, Eli Manning, Matthew Stafford and Cam Newton have not made or did not make a real positive impact on their team?
    Posted by pcmIV


    None have had nearly the impact that Peyton had.  Jury's still out on Stafford and Newton.  my point is that Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger were not #1 picks.  Quality QB's can be found outside of the #1 pick.  Further, even if the colts win next week and lose that first pick, there's no guarantee that STL or MIN take luck.  STL is heavily invested in their first pick.  MIN could take him, I suppose, but they just took a QB last year. 
     
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    Ever since BB let the Colts put up 21 4th quarter points they have gained confidence and are playing well every week. BB the master Colts motivator? Done by design? Undy? Opinions?
    Posted by PatsRfineIn09


    I think it has to do with orlovsky.  If you look back at a number of games you will find the colts in those games with an opportunity to win.  Painter was confounding.  He could get on a roll hitting receivers in stride and then throw 5 balls in a row either 10 yds too long or too short. 

    Orlovsky's not been perfect, but he's been consistent and at times very competent. 

    It was just a matter of time.  The colts D is starting to play better, also.  But - you can't give them too much credit.  Foster gashed them for like 150 yds last night, and their wins have come against teams also struggling for one reason or another.
     
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    In response to "Re: Please Forgive Me":
    In Response to Re: Please Forgive Me : ummmm, what? I dont think our lack of a title since he left has anything to do with him. I think that has more to do with our coaching staff getting raided and great defensive players retiring. Im not dismissing any truth. You are just not that smart.  You say things just to try to tick people off. Doesnt work on me. Posted by JayShizzle45
    UD6 is very ungenerous. We'll take Reggie Wayne from him for that.
     
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    Carson Palmer bites. The Raiders got so fleeced by Mike Brown I thought it was bill trading with AL.
     
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    What would have happened to them had they not made this move? Last place in the AFC West?
     
         The Raiders want to win, now. If they win the AFC West this year and next, it was a good trade for them. Otherwise..

    This is a new era in Raider football. Think about if they just didnt pick burners every draft of trade away their picks. They could be a dominant team. So now that they will approach the draft differently why give away all your picks? Carson Palmer has 10 TD's and 13 ints this year. He has the ability to hit 20 ints this year if he starts slinging it.
    The problem with Carson Palmer is the way he's been played. They need to work more screens, dump offs and bubble screens. Make him a game manager as opposed to him throwing it down field 25 yards on 3rd and 3. Since he got Von Olthoffened he hasnt been the same. A lot of people dont seem to realize is the "Brady rule" is really the "Palmer rule".
     
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    Unfortunately, with all the misses that the Patriots have had in the draft over the past 5 years, whose to say that their way is not the way to go? In the past, the Pats have traded a 4th rounder for Randy Moss, a 2nd and 7th rounder for Wes Welker, a 2nd rounder for Corey Dillon, and a 4th rounder for Ted Washington. Those deals worked out rather well. Let's see what Palmer and the Raiders do over their last two games. The Raiders lost a tough one to the Lions by a point last week. That loss may cost them the AFC West.


    My only beef with comparing the Pats draft and the Raiders draft is they picked 15 picks at least higher then the Pats did. Odds say they would get better players. And the picks they traded away for Palmer are picks that dont cripple your team salary cap wise. Thats an over looked dynamic so far by most.
     
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    In Response to Please Forgive Me:
         I have a confession to make, my fellow Patriots' fans. It shames me to say this, but (gulp), I actually rooted for the Indianapolis Colts last night. Realizing that a Houston loss would guarantee our Patriots a bye week, and that an Indy win was a step towards keeping Bill Polian away from Andrew Luck...I rooted Indy on.       The only thing that I have to offer in my defense is that I don't think that I would have done it, if Peyton Manning were playing. Nonetheless, I beg your indulgence, and forgiveness.
    Posted by TexasPat3


    What is it with the "forgiveness" posts.  Alls well and fair in football, just continue with your excellent game summaries and all the other stuff will fall into place.  Peace.
     
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