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Poilan(s) gets the boot

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    In Response to Re: Poilan(s) gets the boot : A strongly worded email or letter with a valid point does wonders. We can change America!
    Posted by EnochRoot


    Kudos to you EnochRoot.  Occupy Peter King!!!!... no wait that actually sound disgusting.
     
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    In Response to Re: Poilan(s) gets the boot : Did he just do that? I sent him a note about an hour ago. I like to feel I made an impact.
    Posted by EnochRoot


    He did just post that....but I did not see Enoch Root....sorry!  LOL
     
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    In Response to Re: Poilan(s) gets the boot : He did just post that....but I did not see Enoch Root....sorry!  LOL
    Posted by Rocky


    Just like The Man to try and keep me down.
     
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    Ok, not trying to argue, but why would you then ignore a weaker Saints D, albeit with continuity and experience and GB's weaker D, tied to each's high flying offenses, like ours? You have been adamant that only our D is so awful, but it simply isn't true, and if our offense was better like a GB or a NOs, a little more consistent, it would actually HELP our own D. I feel the media ignores the GB and Saints D because they have more likeable coaches in GB and NOs.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII


    I haven't really ignored the Saints or GB - my posts focus on the Pats because I am Pats fan - and they also focus on the current opponent  - if and hopefully when the Pats face either of those teams I will be dogging their D's too

    Having said that - the Pats D is often very bad - though it has had a tendency to come through in the 2nd half of each game since the Giants game at the very end - I don't count the 4th qtr against Indy and the D did play well in the 4th against Washington

    But Rusty - if the D can't get their act together at the beginning of games the Pats will lose in the playoffs - it really is that simple - I don't care that the Pats didn't score on their first 2 possessions against Buffalo - there is no excuse in the world for the D to give up 21 straight as easily as they did - kudos to the coaching staff for getting the proper adjustments made but it can't take that long

    Rusty - unlike you with the offense I am not trying to hold the D to an impossible standard - if the D had given up 21 in the game by giving up 7 in the first, 7 in the 2nd and 7 in the 3rd I would be OK with that - I don't expect them to be perfect - but giving up 3 straight drives like that is bad - plain and simple - and it has to stop

    The good news for the Pats is that while Buffalo is a loser overall - they have a better offense then any team the Pats are likely to see in the AFC playoffs - Buffalo had the personnel to exploit the Pats weaknesses - I don't see any team in the AFC playoffs spreading the Pats out like that - I have faith in the Pats stopping the run - that should be enough against the Ravens at Foxboro in the AFCCG

    Hopefully BB can figure something out for the pass defense for the Superbowl
     
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    Maybe BB can escort Polian over to the Black Falcon terminal for his departure to St. Helena.
     
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    When reached for comment on the firings, Jim Caldwell said "                         ".
    Posted by mbeaulieu07


    Caldwell continued...
    "There's football being played on Sunday?  I thought it weekly parade honoring Peyton Manning."
     
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    Irsay views Manning’s future as “family decision” not “football decision”

    Colts Camp FootballAP

    When the Polians were shown the door Monday, we guessed that Colts owner Jim Irsay was at least partially choosing Peyton Manning over the team’s front office.

    If nothing else, it will make it easier to keep Manning on the roster if that’s what Irsay truly wants to do. And there is no bigger fan of Peyton Manning than Jim Irsay.

    Speaking on NBC SportsTalk Monday, Peter King supported this notion.

    He’s heard that Irsay views Manning’s future as a “family decision” and not a “football decision.”

    So what does that mean?

    “It means to me that Jimmy Irsay is going to give Peyton Manning his $28 million bonus unless one of two things happen: Manning absolutely can’t play football or Manning wants out,” King said. “So I think Irsay has essentially put the onus on himself to make that huge decision.”

    It sets up an interesting scenario for the direction of the Colts franchise. Will Irsay only hire a general manager or coach that want to work with Manning? Then again, will many coaches and general managers not want to work with a healthy Manning if Irsay is playing the freight?

    Manning’s health has been lost in all the speculation. We truly have no idea if he’ll ever play pro football again. If Manning does play again, Irsay’s “family” approach to the business makes it more likely Manning will remain in Indianapolis.

     
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    " Did he just do that? I sent him a note about an hour ago. I like to feel I made an impact."

    Nice job Enoch Root. King should fix it in his column as well. 

    King has also leaned on the Manning side of the Brady-Manning debate one too many times. 

    Where are UD6 and that front-runner Jules Winfield LOL
     
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    I'd say it means Manning is gone. He wont have anything to throw to next year and his protection isnt very good. Manning could go into a much better situation then Indy. That 28M can be reworked. I see him in AZ.
    Posted by Philskiw1


    I have to agree with you. I think firing the Polians along with dealing Manning gives the impression that Irsay is making the ultimate sacrifices. This move kind of makes it "ok" to deal Peyton since they have to start over anyway.  
     
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    Jim Irsay says he is "moving in a different direction" with Bill and Chris Polian let go. "This is the tough part of this business."


    Irsay press conference now live on NFL Network: "14 years is a long time in this league ... But it was time ... It's an intuitive decision."Irsay says search for new GM begins and will begin contacting candidates as early as this evening. Says Coach caldwell is under evaluationIrsay says it's "not out of the realm of possibility" that Caldwell is back.

    Irsay says he has final say on big decisions, like first overall pick and Peyton Manning's contract. "That's the way it has to be." ...

     


     
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    Can they fire "The Polian Rules" along with him? That arrogant poser contributed mightily to the decline of a once-great game into the fraudulent, fantasy-based, flag football fascimile that you see playing out on your TV screens every Sunday in the fall.
    Posted by hardright


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    Glad this guy got the boot - he was smug, nasty, spoiled, pompous - and he ruined this game of football with his whining.

    However I would not say a guy that basically has built teams through the draft and went on to have a lot of success at it is a bad evaluator of talent. This guy has drafted some of the biggest names in the history of the NFL:
    Manning, B. Smith, J. Kelly, Thurman Thomas, R.Wayne, Freeney, Mathis, Bob Sanders, Edge, Cato June, Tarik Glenn. Not all of them will be hall of famers, but everyone of them made a pro bowl.
     
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    How would Polian being BB's GM work out? I hear he's available.
    Posted by BabeParilli



    Ah Babe! You are a temptress to ol'underdogggg!  We would never see the end of him then!
     
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    In Response to Re: Poilan gets the boot : Fraud legacy?  Please explain.  Can't Wait - especially given the legacy of the guy you support.
    Posted by UD6


    Care to expand on this?
     
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    Patriots way is solid and I like it over the way other teams do it.
     
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    In Response to Re: Poilan gets the boot : Indy's been to 2 SB's, winning one in the last 5 years. How about the pats?  True Polian has not bee great over the recent years, and he got the boot this year not just because of the losses but because of decisions like bringing in Collins, and keeping Painter instead of Orlovsky who was in camp.
    Posted by UD6


    Polian has run 3 teams - gotten them to 6 Superbowls, winning only one and leaving each team in far worse shape then he found them............

    Like your idol Manning - Polian was far more successful winning NFL executive of the year awards then Superbowls - like Manning has won more MVP's then he'll ever win titles.........

    Clearly Polian should have stroked Bob Kravitz the same way he did his lapdog Peter King - Kravitz must be laughing now

    As are everyone here in New England

    The road to irrelevancy has been swift hasn't it UD? Your beloved franchise is well on their way to another 10+ year drought of winning while repairing the damage that has been done by putting every single one of their eggs in Mannings basket

    UD - here is my question to you - if you were Robert Irsay - would you pay Manning the team killling 28 million roster bonus - or would you let him go for the good of the franchise and start over?

    There is not one doubt in my mind that the Pats would let Brady go under these circumstances - of course they never would have put themselves in that position - and as a fan of the Patriots I would fully support letting him go

    What say you UD?
     
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    Phil - Colts won't be able to trade Manning.  There may be something in the contract or some other technicality that prohibits them from doing so.  Further, I don't think any team would be willing to pay the bonus without knowing whether or not Manning can take a snap.  Manning will have to be released or somehow prove that he can go for the colts to keep him or agree to restructure or delay the bonus payment

    You dont know that. Snyder Might pay a kings ransome for him. If Manning sees the team will be a skeleton of what it was the last time he played, he will agree to the trade.
     
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