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Since the inherited defensive stars BB had got old he is 0 for 8 in winning SBs.
How the hell does that make him the greatest GM in the cap era?
What? We lost 8 superbowls under BB? Geez...I must have missed a few because I only remember losing 2 under BB. ;-)
If BB isn't the best, who is? Whose better? Anyone?
Who is better? Anybody who built a team that has won a SB in the last 8 years.
It's not that cut and dried. Being the best means winning the most, not winning all the time. As Derek Jeter said (hate that guy) lots of teams can win "a" championship, but the best compete almost every year.
Sorry, I would never buy that the Saints' GM Mickey Loomis is better than BB because they got hot and won one Superbowl. That team is a mess and caught lightning in a bottle when their defense actually played really well for a hot stretch. Outside of that, they have bigger issues than NE almost across the board and most of it is related to how terrible they draft. They have really only have drafted WRs better, failing at OL picks, RB, DL, LBer, CB, Safety, etc. I mean busting on Sedrick Ellis, Reggie Bush, Mark Ingram, with fringe busts Malcolm Jenkins and Patrick Robinson over the last 8, all first rounders, is just dreadful. I mean they've had exactly one first rounder who even looks like a decent player and that is Cameron Jordan (a guy I actually had NE taking that season, lol), and Robert Meachem, who was an ok second WR in their system, but never came close to living up to first round billing, also really almost a fringe bust.
I'd also add the Colts' GM. They won with a last gasp of a crew of guys they drafted a long time ago. One to one, BB has really been much better than Polian over the last 8 seasons. Only Gonzalez and partially Addai though he was short lived, is close to a hit, because Marlin Jackson, Hughes, Brown, Costanzo, et al.
These are GMs who really are average: managing to miss with first rounders repeatedly. In that span only Maroney has been a complete swing and miss, with Meriweather as a fringe-bust (low selection, who did some good things, but ultimately was let go because he didn't get it).
But Mankins, Mayo, Solder, DMC (after his sophomore slump) and Chandler Jones (so far) is a whole bunch of pro-bowls and some solid contributors.
I think there are clear cases that the Jerry Reese and Kevin Colbert have had better drafting results over the last 8 seasons, and Ozzie Newsome hasn't been shabby himself. They don't have five to six bust type players in the first to their credit.
That, sadly, is the average. BB has had his issues, but he is waay above that, and above a couple guys who won Superbowls in the last 8 seasons, really on the strength of past success (Colts) and some savvy vet additions that pulled a terrible D together for one season (Saints).
Regarding Polian - Assign whatever % of responsibility to him you wish for 2010 and 2011 drafts when his son was officially GM. It has been noted locally that Chris Polian actually had the reigns in these drafts (at least in 2011)
2009 - collie, powers - effective; 2008 - wheeler, tamme, garcon 2007 - disaster but Gonzalez could have been good. 2006 - Addai, Jennings, C Johnson, Bethea.
If you look at Pro-Football-References Career AV assigned to the players each of these teams drafted then from 05-09, I think Polian compares well to Belichick. And I don't necessarily ding a player drafted that ends up elsewhere and continues playing. Still a good pick even if the don't work out for your club.
Bill Polian was an excellent GM, he proved it both in Buffalo & Indy. His only problem was nepotism, his son should've never been tabbed as his replacement.