Prayers for Pakistan and Yemen

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    Re: Prayers for Pakistan and Yemen

    In response to raptor64d's comment:

    In response to Godvernment's comment:

     

    To murder several runners using bombs at a sporting event is terrorism.

    To murder 175 children using military drones is U.S. policy.

    We should accept neither. We should fight against both.

    List of children killed by U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen:

    Compiled from The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports

    PAKISTAN

    Name | Age | Gender

    Noor Aziz | 8 | male
    Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
    Noor Syed | 8 | male
    Wajid Noor | 9 | male
    Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
    Ayeesha | 3 | female
    Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
    Shoaib | 8 | male
    Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
    Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
    Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
    Maezol Khan | 8 | female
    Nasir Khan | male
    Naeem Khan | male
    Naeemullah | male
    Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
    Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
    Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
    Ziauddin | 16 | male
    Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
    Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
    Ilyas | 13 | male
    Sohail | 7 | male
    Asadullah | 9 | male
    khalilullah | 9 | male
    Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
    Khalid | 12 | male
    Saifullah | 9 | male
    Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
    Nawab | 17 | male
    Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
    Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
    Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
    Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
    Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
    Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
    Abdullah | 18 | male
    Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
    Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
    Shahbuddin | 15 | male
    Yahya Khan | 16 |male
    Rahatullah |17 | male
    Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
    Shahjehan | 15 | male
    Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
    Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
    Numair | 14 | male
    Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
    Ihsanullah | 16 | male
    Luqman | 12 | male
    Jannatullah | 13 | male
    Ismail | 12 | male
    Taseel Khan | 18 | male
    Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
    Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
    Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
    Alam Nabi | 11 | male
    Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
    Rahmatullah | 14 | male
    Abdus Samad | 17 | male
    Siraj | 16 | male
    Saeedullah | 17 | male
    Abdul Waris | 16 | male
    Darvesh | 13 | male
    Ameer Said | 15 | male
    Shaukat | 14 | male
    Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
    Salman | 12 | male
    Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
    Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
    Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
    Iftikhar | 17 | male
    Inayatullah | 15 | male
    Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
    Ihsanullah | 16 | male
    Luqman | 12 | male
    Jannatullah | 13 | male
    Ismail | 12 | male
    Abdul Waris | 16 | male
    Darvesh | 13 | male
    Ameer Said | 15 | male
    Shaukat | 14 | male
    Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
    Adnan | 16 | male
    Najibullah | 13 | male
    Naeemullah | 17 | male
    Hizbullah | 10 | male
    Kitab Gul | 12 | male
    Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
    Zabihullah | 16 | male
    Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
    Shabir | 15 | male
    Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
    Shafiullah | 16 | male
    Nimatullah | 14 | male
    Shakirullah | 16 | male
    Talha | 8 | male

    YEMEN

    Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
    Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
    Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
    Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
    Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
    Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
    Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
    Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
    Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
    Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
    Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
    Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
    Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
    Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
    Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
    Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
    Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
    Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
    Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
    Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
    Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
    AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
    Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
    Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
    Nasser Salim | 19

     

     

     

    Dude you probably voted Obama into office not once but twice! If you didn't my appologies. When we invaded these country's under Bush we went out of our way not to kill children along with their s c u m b a g parents who used them as sheilds. I as an Apache pilot held my fire several times because I wasn't sure who else was in the building with the guy who shot at me or other coalition forces. Drone's were used only on targets where the guy we were after was in the car or building. Now Obama takes over and instead of trying to catch these guys and get information from them (remember he thought we were brutal for pooring some water up three terrorist noses to get info that led to the capture of Bin Laden, he was all against that) he chooses to vaporize them. I personnally have no problem with that except we do not get intelligence from these guys anymore. The left called Bush everything under the sun but crickets from the same people for his drone program. Now a lot of these "children" were teenagers and I can tell you they already were hated us and were future or current terrorist.  In the end the death of these young people and children can be blamed on their own family's who decided to wage war on us in the first place. I am looking forward for us to pull out of flinestone land because we can strike any future terrorist training camps from the sky's and we can stop putting our own troops in harms way. Remember you get the government you deserve by who YOU guys elect into office!!!



    Thanks for posting this Raptor. Glad you made it home safe(r u home?) And thanks for fighting for our freedoms brother. All politics aside.

     
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    Re: Prayers for Pakistan and Yemen

    In response to raptor64d's comment:

    In response to Godvernment's comment:

     

    To murder several runners using bombs at a sporting event is terrorism.

    To murder 175 children using military drones is U.S. policy.

    We should accept neither. We should fight against both.

    List of children killed by U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen:

    Compiled from The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports

    PAKISTAN

    Name | Age | Gender

    Noor Aziz | 8 | male
    Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
    Noor Syed | 8 | male
    Wajid Noor | 9 | male
    Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
    Ayeesha | 3 | female
    Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
    Shoaib | 8 | male
    Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
    Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
    Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
    Maezol Khan | 8 | female
    Nasir Khan | male
    Naeem Khan | male
    Naeemullah | male
    Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
    Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
    Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
    Ziauddin | 16 | male
    Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
    Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
    Ilyas | 13 | male
    Sohail | 7 | male
    Asadullah | 9 | male
    khalilullah | 9 | male
    Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
    Khalid | 12 | male
    Saifullah | 9 | male
    Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
    Nawab | 17 | male
    Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
    Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
    Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
    Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
    Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
    Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
    Abdullah | 18 | male
    Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
    Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
    Shahbuddin | 15 | male
    Yahya Khan | 16 |male
    Rahatullah |17 | male
    Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
    Shahjehan | 15 | male
    Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
    Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
    Numair | 14 | male
    Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
    Ihsanullah | 16 | male
    Luqman | 12 | male
    Jannatullah | 13 | male
    Ismail | 12 | male
    Taseel Khan | 18 | male
    Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
    Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
    Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
    Alam Nabi | 11 | male
    Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
    Rahmatullah | 14 | male
    Abdus Samad | 17 | male
    Siraj | 16 | male
    Saeedullah | 17 | male
    Abdul Waris | 16 | male
    Darvesh | 13 | male
    Ameer Said | 15 | male
    Shaukat | 14 | male
    Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
    Salman | 12 | male
    Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
    Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
    Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
    Iftikhar | 17 | male
    Inayatullah | 15 | male
    Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
    Ihsanullah | 16 | male
    Luqman | 12 | male
    Jannatullah | 13 | male
    Ismail | 12 | male
    Abdul Waris | 16 | male
    Darvesh | 13 | male
    Ameer Said | 15 | male
    Shaukat | 14 | male
    Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
    Adnan | 16 | male
    Najibullah | 13 | male
    Naeemullah | 17 | male
    Hizbullah | 10 | male
    Kitab Gul | 12 | male
    Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
    Zabihullah | 16 | male
    Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
    Shabir | 15 | male
    Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
    Shafiullah | 16 | male
    Nimatullah | 14 | male
    Shakirullah | 16 | male
    Talha | 8 | male

    YEMEN

    Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
    Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
    Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
    Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
    Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
    Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
    Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
    Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
    Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
    Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
    Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
    Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
    Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
    Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
    Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
    Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
    Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
    Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
    Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
    Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
    Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
    AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
    Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
    Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
    Nasser Salim | 19

     

     

     

    Dude you probably voted Obama into office not once but twice! If you didn't my appologies. When we invaded these country's under Bush we went out of our way not to kill children along with their s c u m b a g parents who used them as sheilds. I as an Apache pilot held my fire several times because I wasn't sure who else was in the building with the guy who shot at me or other coalition forces. Drone's were used only on targets where the guy we were after was in the car or building. Now Obama takes over and instead of trying to catch these guys and get information from them (remember he thought we were brutal for pooring some water up three terrorist noses to get info that led to the capture of Bin Laden, he was all against that) he chooses to vaporize them. I personnally have no problem with that except we do not get intelligence from these guys anymore. The left called Bush everything under the sun but crickets from the same people for his drone program. Now a lot of these "children" were teenagers and I can tell you they already were hated us and were future or current terrorist.  In the end the death of these young people and children can be blamed on their own family's who decided to wage war on us in the first place. I am looking forward for us to pull out of flinestone land because we can strike any future terrorist training camps from the sky's and we can stop putting our own troops in harms way. Remember you get the government you deserve by who YOU guys elect into office!!!



    Thank you very much for your military service. It's much appreciated. I'll withhold the snarky comment I have up my sleeve.

     
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    Re: Prayers for Pakistan and Yemen

    Lol....let's quote some left wing lying rag.  Like there's some pasty white British dude in Taliban country taking down names.  What a gullible fool.

     

    On Friday 10 November 2012 the BBC suspended all co-productions with the Bureau of Investigative Journalism following a TBIJ -Newsnight co-production, lead by the Bureau's chief reporter Angus Stickler, falsely implicating Lord McAlpine of child abuse.[9] The scandal over the report's inaccuracy, combined with other factors, led to the resignation of the BBC Director General, George Entwistle.[29]

     

     
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    Not saying anything that im a conspiracy theorist or anything but this caught my eye.

     Edit: You really cant see it but if you go to the site TFB12 provided youll see it.

     

     



    Would it shock me? no, not at all given politics now a days (regardless of party). But, I can't believe they would do this, I really can't. They ID a suspect today and I bet the pics will be out soon and then even sooner regular people will find him in all those photo's. It will be hard to tie all that together and I can't believe this would be used as a political stunt. Though I can believe that letter to Obama could be used as a stunt just not the size and damage done by these bombs

     

     



    research what a bilderberger is if you wish. and their actions.

     

    there will always be a fall guy / group



    What a bunch of B.S.    I'm talking about the dude who said he works for a security company and that this was all created by the government.  That's as dumb as those who said Bush was responsible for 9/11. 

     
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    Re: Prayers for Pakistan and Yemen

    In response to raptor64d's comment:

    In response to Godvernment's comment:

     

    To murder several runners using bombs at a sporting event is terrorism.

    To murder 175 children using military drones is U.S. policy.

    We should accept neither. We should fight against both.

    List of children killed by U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen:

    Compiled from The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports

    PAKISTAN

    Name | Age | Gender

    Noor Aziz | 8 | male
    Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
    Noor Syed | 8 | male
    Wajid Noor | 9 | male
    Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
    Ayeesha | 3 | female
    Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
    Shoaib | 8 | male
    Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
    Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
    Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
    Maezol Khan | 8 | female
    Nasir Khan | male
    Naeem Khan | male
    Naeemullah | male
    Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
    Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
    Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
    Ziauddin | 16 | male
    Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
    Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
    Ilyas | 13 | male
    Sohail | 7 | male
    Asadullah | 9 | male
    khalilullah | 9 | male
    Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
    Khalid | 12 | male
    Saifullah | 9 | male
    Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
    Nawab | 17 | male
    Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
    Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
    Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
    Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
    Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
    Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
    Abdullah | 18 | male
    Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
    Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
    Shahbuddin | 15 | male
    Yahya Khan | 16 |male
    Rahatullah |17 | male
    Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
    Shahjehan | 15 | male
    Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
    Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
    Numair | 14 | male
    Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
    Ihsanullah | 16 | male
    Luqman | 12 | male
    Jannatullah | 13 | male
    Ismail | 12 | male
    Taseel Khan | 18 | male
    Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
    Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
    Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
    Alam Nabi | 11 | male
    Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
    Rahmatullah | 14 | male
    Abdus Samad | 17 | male
    Siraj | 16 | male
    Saeedullah | 17 | male
    Abdul Waris | 16 | male
    Darvesh | 13 | male
    Ameer Said | 15 | male
    Shaukat | 14 | male
    Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
    Salman | 12 | male
    Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
    Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
    Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
    Iftikhar | 17 | male
    Inayatullah | 15 | male
    Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
    Ihsanullah | 16 | male
    Luqman | 12 | male
    Jannatullah | 13 | male
    Ismail | 12 | male
    Abdul Waris | 16 | male
    Darvesh | 13 | male
    Ameer Said | 15 | male
    Shaukat | 14 | male
    Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
    Adnan | 16 | male
    Najibullah | 13 | male
    Naeemullah | 17 | male
    Hizbullah | 10 | male
    Kitab Gul | 12 | male
    Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
    Zabihullah | 16 | male
    Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
    Shabir | 15 | male
    Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
    Shafiullah | 16 | male
    Nimatullah | 14 | male
    Shakirullah | 16 | male
    Talha | 8 | male

    YEMEN

    Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
    Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
    Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
    Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
    Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
    Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
    Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
    Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
    Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
    Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
    Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
    Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
    Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
    Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
    Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
    Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
    Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
    Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
    Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
    Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
    Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
    AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
    Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
    Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
    Nasser Salim | 19

     

     

     

    Dude you probably voted Obama into office not once but twice! If you didn't my appologies. When we invaded these country's under Bush we went out of our way not to kill children along with their s c u m b a g parents who used them as sheilds. I as an Apache pilot held my fire several times because I wasn't sure who else was in the building with the guy who shot at me or other coalition forces. Drone's were used only on targets where the guy we were after was in the car or building. Now Obama takes over and instead of trying to catch these guys and get information from them (remember he thought we were brutal for pooring some water up three terrorist noses to get info that led to the capture of Bin Laden, he was all against that) he chooses to vaporize them. I personnally have no problem with that except we do not get intelligence from these guys anymore. The left called Bush everything under the sun but crickets from the same people for his drone program. Now a lot of these "children" were teenagers and I can tell you they already were hated us and were future or current terrorist.  In the end the death of these young people and children can be blamed on their own family's who decided to wage war on us in the first place. I am looking forward for us to pull out of flinestone land because we can strike any future terrorist training camps from the sky's and we can stop putting our own troops in harms way. Remember you get the government you deserve by who YOU guys elect into office!!!




    First of all let me know when those Iraqi WMD and nukes show up. And before you start whining leftist I supported going into Afganistan. To bad your hero Bush didn't finish the job. Of course actual killing Bin Laden and wiping out the Taliban would have cost thousands of casualties and that would have cooled the public on invading Iraq. And Iraq was where the money was.

    As for your idiotic comments on torture....I have no problem breaking out the jumper cables for actual terrorists. Different story when you play 'round up the usual suspect' and do it to hundreds.

     
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    Will all you mindless, dogmatic bafoons - who think you are right about everything and anyone who disagrees is unAmerican - please shut up. That means essentially everyone here who has posted more than three comments.

    You are all a bunch of immoral, thoughtless, self righteous jerks. It is amazing how little you all are able to hear your own bigoted voices. Each of you shout about how the "fundamentalism" of your enemy here is proof of their idiocy. And yet here you are, each of you, acting like American Taliban: you are right, they are wrong; you are good, they are evil.

    You would all be comical if you were all not so dangerous.

     
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    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=tql3lrnRC1Q&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dtql3lrnRC1Q

    PRESIDENTS

    If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their  currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of  all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jeffersonin the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809)

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” – Thomas Jefferson

    … The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating. -Thomas Jefferson

    History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by  controlling money and its issuance. -James Madison

     

     

    If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was  given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations. -Andrew Jackson

     

     

    The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and  credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of  consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham  Lincoln

     

    Issue of currency should be lodged with the government and be protected from domination by Wall Street. We are opposed to…provisions [which] would place our currency and credit system in private hands. – Theodore Roosevelt

     

    Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of  credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most  completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a  Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. -Woodrow  Wilson

    Years later, reflecting on the major banks’ control in Washington, President Franklin Roosevelt paid this indirect praise to his distant predecessor President Andrew Jackson, who had “killed” the 2nd Bank of the US (an earlier type of the Federal Reserve System). After Jackson’s administration the bankers’ influence was gradually restored and increased, culminating in the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Roosevelt knew this history.

    The real truth of the matter is,as you and I know, that a financial

    element in the large centers has owned the government ever since

    the days of Andrew Jackson… -Franklin D. Roosevelt 

    (in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933)

    POLITICIANS

    When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” – Napoleon Bonaparte, Emperor of France, 1815

     

     

     

    “The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots and the bankers went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt civilization.” Otto von Bismark (1815-1898), German Chancellor, after the Lincoln assassination

     

     

    “Money plays the largest part in determining the course of history.” Karl Marx writing in the Communist Manifesto (1848).

     

     

     

     

    “That this House considers that the continued issue of all the means of exchange – be they coin, bank-notes or credit, largely passed on by cheques – by private firms as an interest-bearing debt against the public should cease forthwith; that the Sovereign power and duty of issuing money in all forms should be returned to the Crown, then to be put into circulation free of all debt and interest obligations…” Captain Henry Kerby MP, in an Early Day Motion tabled in 1964.

     

     

    “Banks lend by creating credit. They create the means of payment out of nothing. ” Ralph M Hawtry, former Secretary to the Treasury.

    “… our whole monetary system is dishonest, as it is debt-based… We did not vote for it. It grew upon us gradually but markedly since 1971 when the commodity-based system was abandoned.” The Earl of Caithness, in a speech to the House of Lords, 1997.

     

    BANKERS

    “The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing.” William Paterson, founder of the Bank of England in 1694, then a privately owned bank

     

     

    “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.

    “The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

    “I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people.” Reginald McKenna, as Chairman of the Midland Bank, addressing stockholders in 1924.

    “The banks do create money. They have been doing it for a long time, but they didn’t realise it, and they did not admit it. Very few did. You will find it in all sorts of documents, financial textbooks, etc. But in the intervening years, and we must be perfectly frank about these things, there has been a development of thought, until today I doubt very much whether you would get many prominent bankers to attempt to deny that banks create it.” H W White, Chairman of the Associated Banks of New Zealand, to the New Zealand Monetary Commission, 1955.

    OTHERS

    “Money is a new form of slavery, and distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that it is impersonal – that there is no human relation between master and slave.” Leo Tolstoy, Russian writer.

     

     

     

    “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company.

     

     

    “The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is, perhaps, the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banks can in fact inflate, mint and un-mint the modern ledger-entry currency.” Major L L B Angus.

    “The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent.” John Kenneth Galbraith (1908- ), former professor of economics at Harvard, writing in ‘Money: Whence it came, where it went’ (1975).

     

    As Nicolas Trist – secretary to President Andrew Jackson – said about the incredibly powerful privately owned Second Bank of the United States, “Independently of its misdeeds, the mere power, — the bare existence of such a power, — is a thing irreconcilable with the nature and spirit of our institutions.” (Schlesinger, The Age of Jackson, p.102)

     

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    Godvernment, I agree with you 100%.

     
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    Will all you mindless, dogmatic bafoons - who think you are right about everything and anyone who disagrees is unAmerican - please shut up. That means essentially everyone here who has posted more than three comments.

    You are all a bunch of immoral, thoughtless, self righteous jerks. It is amazing how little you all are able to hear your own bigoted voices. Each of you shout about how the "fundamentalism" of your enemy here is proof of their idiocy. And yet here you are, each of you, acting like American Taliban: you are right, they are wrong; you are good, they are evil.

    You would all be comical if you were all not so dangerous.

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    Well said, portfolio.

     
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    Will all you mindless, dogmatic bafoons - who think you are right about everything and anyone who disagrees is unAmerican - please shut up. That means essentially everyone here who has posted more than three comments.

    You are all a bunch of immoral, thoughtless, self righteous jerks. It is amazing how little you all are able to hear your own bigoted voices. Each of you shout about how the "fundamentalism" of your enemy here is proof of their idiocy. And yet here you are, each of you, acting like American Taliban: you are right, they are wrong; you are good, they are evil.

    You would all be comical if you were all not so dangerous.

     

     

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    Well said, portfolio.




    Thanks NY Pats fan. I wasnt sure if anyone at all would hear. There is so little listening and so much hostility.

     

     
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