Pre-Season Predictions...yeh, it's a lil early..

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    It's never to early. I feel better this season knowing BB is serious about fixing the defensive shortcomings from the past few years. The offense won't miss a beat from last year. W @Miami W San Diego W @Buffalo W @Oakland W NY Jets W Dallas W @Pittsburgh W NY Giants W @NY Jets W Kansas City Chiefs W @Philadelphia Eagles W Indianapolis Colts W @Washington Redskins W @Denver Broncos W Miami Dolphins W Buffalo Bills Win the Super Bowl 19-0
    Posted by kansaspatriot


    Thank you, I do not understand why everyone thinks that the Eagles are going to beat everyone. The Packers showed everyone how to stop Vick. I like our chances against everyone. The D is going to be sick this year!
     
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    I'm going to wait for the final prediction but as we speak they have to be as good if not better than last years team,so you start with 14 regular season wins and go from there,your next question should be how much have they improved? They added 4 All Pro D-linemen to the mix and an All Pro WR and from all reports they aren't done adding players with big reputations!!! Now I'm not breaking down each game because I don't get paid to do any of that type of analysis. My best guess at this point in time is they don't lose unless there is a crooked referee in the woodshed or they are hit with devastating injuries that are so far reaching that even BB can't plug the holes. 19-0 is a very feasible record.I'm not predicting that though,as I said lets see what they add from here until the start of the season.
     
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    only phi concerns me at all. assuming one of each of the following player pairs/trio stays healthy enough to play at any time (assumes tb does not miss more than one game), my conservative prediction is 15-1. i think they really have a good chance of winning all 16 reg season games and finally achieving what was not achieved in 2007-08.

    wilfork-haynesworth
    mayo-spikes
    chung-merriweather
    mccourty-bodden
    bjge-ridley
    welker-ochocinco-price

    if they stay relatively healthy, i don't think anyone can stop this offense. they now have the capability to win a grinder on the ground.

    on paper (which is the only basis of this prediction right now), the defense will be feared again... so feared that it will get in every opposing QB's head. and that will the the critical difference between this year and the 2007-08 season.
     
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    W  @Miami
    ?   San Diego
    W  @Buffalo
    W  @Oakland
    W  NY Jets
    ?  Dallas
    ?   @Pittsburgh
    W  NY Giants
    ?   @NY Jets
    W  Kansas City Chiefs
    ?  @Philadelphia Eagles
    ?  Indianapolis Colts

    W  @Washington Redskins
    W  @Denver Broncos
    W  Miami Dolphins
    W  Buffalo Bills

    I put "?'s" next to the games I think will be tougher

    These are the games that will determine seeding and home field.  I'd be disappointed if this team finished any worse than 13-3 given the talent and the depth at almost every position other than safety, outside linebacker, and guard.

    I like the Pats against San Diego at home, but Antonio Gates is the first of many elite tight ends we face this year and we let Jarrad Page and Brandon McGowan walk.  Does Guyton step up in that role?  Chung?  The Chargers' offense has the potential to initiate a shootout, at which point it's a cr@pshoot.  The Chargers' defense could be underrated, too, especially if Bob Sanders can stay healthy next to Eric Weddle (with Jammer at cornerback).  Takeo Spikes, despite age, could also contribute at LB and Shaun Phillips is the kind of speed rusher that always gives Matt Light problems (assuming he's still the starter, which early in the season is safe to assume).  A big part of it will also be the Pats' improved pass rush - can they get to Rivers?  Otherwise, Vincent Jackson is a good deep threat against almost anybody.  We'll find out very quickly whether our safety corps is vulnerable and how bad - Gates and Jackson really test safeties and Norv Turner for all his faults is a decent playcaller.

    I put perennially overhyped Dallas as a question mark for a lot of the same reasons as San Diego.  Romo is a much lesser QB than Rivers (IMO), but I view Felix Jones as a better run threat and I think the Cowboys' offense with maligned-but-talented Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten could also instigate a shootout (and because of Felix Jones, is a more balanced offense than San Diego with Ryan Matthews).  The Pats should be able to exploit their secondary, but Ware is a beast and their d-line is very underrated.  The Pats' tight ends will play a big role in this game testing their mediocre safeties and linebackers.

    I like our chances against Pittsburgh just because they've only beaten the Pats once with Brady healthy (back in 2004, and we beat them in the AFC Championship later on).  The Steelers will also be suffering the Super Bowl hangover this year (although I think their years of contending will reduce its effect versus a Cinderella appearing in a Super Bowl and having increased expectations).  The biggest thing: the Steelers have no offensive identity if Hines Ward is aging.  Mike Wallace is a deep threat, but the Steelers' identity was smash mouth running until recently when they started spreading it out.  Emmanuel Sanders is their other possession guy, but he's hurt with a broken foot.  And they have no offensive line.  I'd still take their linebacker corps in a quick second over almost anybody on the Patriots not named Jerod Mayo or possibly Brandon Spikes, but their cornerbacks are still a weakness (Ike Taylor's not a true #1 shutdown CB) and Polamalu can't stay healthy while the other safety has always been "the other safety" next to Polamalu.  Still, it's at their house.

    We always lose one to the Jets.  As much as I'd love a sweep and think last year's playoffs provided the necessary motivation, I could see the Pats losing in the Meadowlands.  And personally, while I always want to beat the Jets, I'd rather have our revenge in this year's playoffs, kind and merciful God permitting. 

    The scariest part of Philadelphia's defense isn't their cornerbacks - it's their DEFENSIVE LINE.  If you watched their preseason game against Baltimore, Flacco was pressured in 4 seconds or less on almost every passing play.  Cullen Jenkins was a HUGE pickup for them (in my humble opinion, even bigger than Asomugha), as was Justin Babin.  Jenkins was all over Flacco in the limited time they saw.  The KEY to beating Philadelphia is finding ways to exploit their mediocre safeties and sub-par linebacker corps.  I wouldn't mind losing this one if it reveals matchup problems that can be exploited if we see the Eagles again.  They're a talented team and it would be a game on the road for a young Patriots team.  I don't think our receivers match up very favorably, though.  Philly will test the Patriots' running game and tight end play action against their smaller defensive line and mediocre linebackers and safeties.

    Indianapolis always plays us tough and they're trying to put together a run game this year.  A balanced offense would bring back that play action pass that defined the early part of Peyton Manning's career with Edgerrin James at RB.  One of the following needs to step up to support Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne if the Colts' offense is going to keep up its pace: Pierre Garcon, Anthony Gonzalez, Austin Collie, or Blair White.  While I think Tommie Harris was a good signing as a role player, their defense has been losing guys to free agency and wasn't even that great to begin with.  I think they'll be more vulnerable this year than they were even last year, but I expect them to play us tough, especially if everyone stays healthy (Dallas Clark presents a much bigger problem since we let Brandon McGowan and Jarrad Page walk when they were our TE coverage specialists in subpackages)

    THE LAST FOUR GAMES ARE ALL TRAP GAMES - if it's possible to have four trap games in a row, these are them.  Stay healthy and leave with W's while setting up momentum into the playoffs.  None of these teams SHOULD beat the Pats, but it's a young team, so I'd hate to see them asleep at the wheel when it could cost them seeding and home field.
     
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    I don't want to predict 16-0, but how can I not? I don't see a team on there that has me saying, damn, we are going to lose that game. Philladelphia will be tough IF Vick is healthy and our Dline is not. Pitt, Brady OWNS Pitt. The Yets have not improved, we have. I don't see us splitting with them, I really dont. Cheifs will fall back down to earth this season as they will have a much tougher schedule, I really don't think they are a threat YET. If we slip up, it will be against the Colts or the Chargers. Im holding out for 16-0 at best, 12-4 at worst.
    Posted by GadisRKO


    id go with 15-1 to 12 and 4.
    too much pressure to carry that undefeated through regular season and the playoffs (i wouldnt mind doing it, but dont want to wish that kind of pressure on the team). think a 14-2 would be an ideal regular season. then hold true and  beat gb or philly.

    there is not a team on the schedule better than us, that doesnt mean we will win every game.
    green bay looks tough. we will need better gameplanning, clutch plays and good luck (every team that goes that far does).
     
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    " like the Pats against San Diego at home, but Antonio Gates is the first of many elite tight ends we face this year and we let Jarrad Page and Brandon McGowan walk.  Does Guyton step up in that role?  Chung?"

    watching chung, he cannot cover.
     
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    I'm going to wait for the final prediction but as we speak they have to be as good if not better than last years team,so you start with 14 regular season wins and go from there,your next question should be how much have they improved? They added 4 All Pro D-linemen to the mix and an All Pro WR and from all reports they aren't done adding players with big reputations!!! Now I'm not breaking down each game because I don't get paid to do any of that type of analysis. My best guess at this point in time is they don't lose unless there is a crooked referee in the woodshed or they are hit with devastating injuries that are so far reaching that even BB can't plug the holes. 19-0 is a very feasible record.I'm not predicting that though,as I said lets see what they add from here until the start of the season.
    Posted by sportsbozo1


    new season. Last year's 14-2 record is history. It certainly didn't make any difference in last year's playoffs.
     
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    23-0, including pre-season
     
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    I just want them to win it all
    It took me 2 years to get over the last SB
    I was really glad that they Asante left
      (Eli would have been the goat and also gave Eli a
        big contract. Plus it saved Coughlins job
          

     
    Even tho we were out played we should have won

    And the last Jet loss was more of the same
    TB's worst pass ever- or it would have been the extension
       of the 45 - 3 loss and the jets would have croaked
    Chung's fake punt -

    I am hoping that our Dline and Oline becomes very physical
       It should be
       It is going to be what it will take
     
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    In Response to Re: Pre-Season Predictions...yeh, it's a lil early.. : id go with 15-1 to 12 and 4. too much pressure to carry that undefeated through regular season and the playoffs (i wouldnt mind doing it, but dont want to wish that kind of pressure on the team).
    Posted by brdbreu


    Yes, the pressure is intense...and the letdown with the loss  in the SB was emotionally devastating....lol.  I was depressed for MONTHs and didn't read the sports section for a looooong time.

    But you know what?  I'd like to see us go into the SB game undefeated again - albeit with a different outcomeLaughing

     
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    I  think, barring  significant  injuries, The  PATS  should  be  rated  the  SB  favorite.  I'm  excited  about  the  defense.  This  could  be  our  best  defense  ever.  My  biggest  concern  is  the  OL.  PATS  fans  never  have  much  to  say  in  critiquing  the  OL.  Our  offensive  line  has  struggled  against  althletic  front  fours  ( ie.  see  SB  against  the  Giants )  and  struggled  against  the  Jets  DL  last  year.  Also, our  running  game  has  been  inconsistent.  I  believe  if  the  OL  can  protect  Brady  against  the  elite  teams'  pass  rush  and  the  Pats  can  develop  a  more  consistent  ground  game, we  will  win  our  4th  SB.  
     
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    23-1

    We lose the 4th pre-season game. 

    Merryweather and Butler give up late TD when they run into each other.

    BB announces their release during post game presser.
     
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    I  think, barring  significant  injuries, The  PATS  should  be  rated  the  SB  favorite.  I'm  excited  about  the  defense.  This  could  be  our  best  defense  ever.  My  biggest  concern  is  the  OL.  PATS  fans  never  have  much  to  say  in  critiquing  the  OL.  Our  offensive  line  has  struggled  against  althletic  front  fours  ( ie.  see  SB  against  the  Giants )  and  struggled  against  the  Jets  DL  last  year.  Also, our  running  game  has  been  inconsistent.  I  believe  if  the  OL  can  protect  Brady  against  the  elite  teams'  pass  rush  and  the  Pats  can  develop  a  more  consistent  ground  game, we  will  win  our  4th  SB.  
    Posted by zeitgeist49



    True about our OL. Bottom line is if teams can get to Brady and keep a game close, they got a good chance in beating us. Hopefully, our defense can get us off the field more often on 3rd and long. In addition, when our pass offense is having problems, our running game has got to step it up.
     
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    I  think, barring  significant  injuries, The  PATS  should  be  rated  the  SB  favorite.  I'm  excited  about  the  defense.  This  could  be  our  best  defense  ever.  My  biggest  concern  is  the  OL.  PATS  fans  never  have  much  to  say  in  critiquing  the  OL.  Our  offensive  line  has  struggled  against  althletic  front  fours  ( ie.  see  SB  against  the  Giants )  and  struggled  against  the  Jets  DL  last  year.  Also, our  running  game  has  been  inconsistent.  I  believe  if  the  OL  can  protect  Brady  against  the  elite  teams'  pass  rush  and  the  Pats  can  develop  a  more  consistent  ground  game, we  will  win  our  4th  SB.  
    Posted by zeitgeist49


    GB are last years champs, so they've earned the #1 spot for this year......until proven otherwise Laughing
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Pre-Season Predictions...yeh, it's a lil early.. : week 8 is a loss...Brady's already seeing Tuck and Osi in his sleep! 
    Posted by JintsFan[/QUOTE

    Week  8  vs.  the  Giants  may  not  be  a  loss  b/c  it's  a  home  game.  However, Brady  will  most  likely  struggle  in  this  game.  The  PATS  OL  is  clearly  it's  biggest  weakness.  The  only  reliable  offensive  linemen  the  PATS  have  are  Mankins  and  Vollmer.  Solder  and  Cannon  have  definite  promise.  Light  and  Koppen  have  always  been  overrated  by  PATS  fans.  The  OL  struggles  against  althletic  DL's.  The  07  SB  was  MEN  VS.  BOYS  in  terms  of  their  defensive  line  against  our  OL.  I  predict  BB  will  upgrade  the  OL  in  2012, just  as  he  has  upgraded  the  defensive  backfield  and  now  the  DL.
     
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    i am not big into predicting things.
    i'm more into postdicting. and i think the packers are going to win the super bowl last year
     
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    14-2 again, Oakland and Denver have "Trap Game" written all over them.
     
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    I  think, barring  significant  injuries, The  PATS  should  be  rated  the  SB  favorite.  I'm  excited  about  the  defense.  This  could  be  our  best  defense  ever.  My  biggest  concern  is  the  OL.  PATS  fans  never  have  much  to  say  in  critiquing  the  OL.  Our  offensive  line  has  struggled  against  althletic  front  fours  ( ie.  see  SB  against  the  Giants )  and  struggled  against  the  Jets  DL  last  year.  Also, our  running  game  has  been  inconsistent.  I  believe  if  the  OL  can  protect  Brady  against  the  elite  teams'  pass  rush  and  the  Pats  can  develop  a  more  consistent  ground  game, we  will  win  our  4th  SB.  
    Posted by zeitgeist49


    not too worried about protecting brady. opponents will have their hands full with the ground game.
     
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    I  think, barring  significant  injuries, The  PATS  should  be  rated  the  SB  favorite.  I'm  excited  about  the  defense.  This  could  be  our  best  defense  ever.  My  biggest  concern  is  the  OL.  PATS  fans  never  have  much  to  say  in  critiquing  the  OL.  Our  offensive  line  has  struggled  against  althletic  front  fours  ( ie.  see  SB  against  the  Giants )  and  struggled  against  the  Jets  DL  last  year.  Also, our  running  game  has  been  inconsistent.  I  believe  if  the  OL  can  protect  Brady  against  the  elite  teams'  pass  rush  and  the  Pats  can  develop  a  more  consistent  ground  game, we  will  win  our  4th  SB.  
    Posted by zeitgeist49


    hey zeit,

    re" PATS  fans  never  have  much  to  say  in  critiquing  the  OL"

    i dont think you read my posts last year. i posted on thi ssubject often and wrote a list of moves i wanted to make to overhaul the team, strategy etc.

    including the o line, d line, d backs, rb, wr, going for 2 of the next 3sb wins, pass rush, bill obrian palaycalling, etc

    much of my lsit addressed by bb by now, excellent.

    brandon mreiweather and getting a better safety, not yet, obrian promoted not what i had in mind. at times he makes "predictable" look like a huge understatement.
     
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    23-1 We lose the 4th pre-season game.  Merryweather and Butler give up late TD when they run into each other. BB announces their release during post game presser.
    Posted by pats-fan-2007



    thats an awesome wish. but we can replace one now with a vet and cut the other.
     
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    In Response to Pre-Season Predictions...yeh, it's a lil early.. : week 8 is a loss...Brady's already seeing Tuck and Osi in his sleep!  Posted by JintsFan[/QUOTE Week  8  vs.  the  Giants  may  not  be  a  loss  b/c  it's  a  home  game.  However, Brady  will  most  likely  struggle  in  this  game.  The  PATS  OL  is  clearly  it's  biggest  weakness.  The  only  reliable  offensive  linemen  the  PATS  have  are  Mankins  and  Vollmer.  Solder  and  Cannon  have  definite  promise.  Light  and  Koppen  have  always  been  overrated  by  PATS  fans.  The  OL  struggles  against  althletic  DL's.  The  07  SB  was  MEN  VS.  BOYS  in  terms  of  their  defensive  line  against  our  OL.  I  predict  BB  will  upgrade  the  OL  in  2012, just  as  he  has  upgraded  the  defensive  backfield  and  now  the  DL.
    Posted by zeitgeist49


    re:" Light  and  Koppen  have  always  been  overrated  by  PATS  fans."

    maybe most, but not i.
     
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    In Response to Re: Pre-Season Predictions...yeh, it's a lil early.. : not too worried about protecting brady. opponents will have their hands full with the ground game.
    Posted by seattlepat70


    assuming there's someone in the backfield at the time and it's not Faulk. We do need a running game to keep D's honest and to set up play action plays.
     
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