And gives them the benefit of the doubt.
How much different is the situation between Johnny Jolly and Nick Kaczur? Significant.
Although both possessed copious amounts of codeine or codeine related drugs, Jolly has been suspended for an entire season while Kaczur didn't miss a day.
Imagine if someone like Lane Kiffen had been caught taping. He'd probably been shot on the spot.
Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
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Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 11:58 AM EDT
- underdoggggg
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Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 12:32 PM EDT
- russgriswold
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Not really. Goodell realized his perpetuating the Spygate witch hunt was completely unfair, so he gave NE a break on Kazcur.
Glad I could help.
Why haven't Braylon Edwards (fight), Ronnie Brown (DUI), Vince Young (fight) or Cedric Benson (fight) been suspended yet?
So, I guess now you can get into a fight in a public facility as an NFL player and it doesn't matter?
Goodell's inconsitencies are nothing new, just like when he turned his head in 2006 when Miami and the NYJ used "technology" in apparent league violations, to gather scouting info on the Patriots.
It's all well and good when a team who can try to take down NE is guilty of it not charged, but when NE is involved it needs to be a slam dunk, Draconian style ruling.
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Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 12:42 PM EDT
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Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 12:53 PM EDT
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I'm glad he loves us. Maybe he'll give us 3 more superbowls. Won't Manning be pissed. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 1:13 PM EDT
- dafoe
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This fool posts this kind of antogonistic drivel on a regukar basis. Yet some people don't think he's a troll.
He comes to a site for the sole intention of stirring the pot. He adds nothing of value to this site.That's the very definition of a troll. Some of you people need to wake up and stop defending this nut job.
Could have sworn I had him on ignore. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 1:20 PM EDT
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In Response to Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:And gives them the benefit of the doubt. How much different is the situation between Johnny Jolly and Nick Kaczur? Significant. Although both possessed copious amounts of codeine or codeine related drugs, Jolly has been suspended for an entire season while Kaczur didn't miss a day. Imagine if someone like Lane Kiffen had been caught taping. He'd probably been shot on the spot.
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Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 1:25 PM EDT
- russgriswold
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:This fool posts this kind of antogonistic drivel on a regukar basis. Yet some people don't think he's a troll. He comes to a site for the sole intention of stirring the pot. He adds nothing of value to this site.That's the very definition of a troll. Some of you people need to wake up and stop defending this nut job. Could have sworn I had him on ignore.
Posted by dafoe
I don't know why anyone would defend him, JimmyJack or Shats. They are essentially the same kind of fan. They're jealous, need attention and don't have a clue about certain aspects of the NFL. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 2:03 PM EDT
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The key element here, no matter for which team you root, is inconsistency.
Most reasonable people will tell you that they can adjust to virtually any set of rules, so long as those rules are applied consistently to all parties involved. The counter-argument to this is that there are usually some form of "extenuating circumstances" (like Kaczur dropping dime, for instance) which turn the black and white rules into a random kaleidoscope of varying shades of grey. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 2:12 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots : awww, isnt that nice...your vag.ina never stops crying, ensuring humanity will always have semi drinkable fluids and goodell proved he loved the pats with the slap on the wrist he gave them for spy gate as for kazcur...he deserved to be disciplined in some fashion....why he wasnt is anyone's guess...same for ronnie brown and his DUI...me thinks goodell is very comfortable with letting the inmates run the asylum...after all....he isnt the owner's pet for nothing
Posted by Jimmy42Jack0
Only in your world would the most severe punishment in NFL history, minus the missing punishment for the Denver Broncos moving Elway and Terrell Davis's contracts off the books TWO YEARS IN A ROW to sign Neil Smith, amongst others, would equate to a "slap on the wrist".
Holy mackerel. Do you ever make sense? Like, ever?
Quick! What is a 2+2, Jack-A-Tool? -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 2:14 PM EDT
- jfaust1954
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Kaczur did as he was told and turned state's evidence...the rest are stand up idiot punks who'll end up out of the league sooner than later as a result...and speaking of treating a criminal with kid gloves...Marvin "1 % er " Harrison, the pistol King of Philly..the NFL never said boo to him...Marvin Freakin' Harrison....all world dirt bag.....between him and that JUICER Sanders, there is a growing criminal element in Indy left behind by Saint Dungy of the Sacred Cornstalks...Harrison left to avoid destruction, but his nasty, filthy seeds of drug abuse, fire arms violations and police stonewalling remain... As Saint Dungy loves to say:
"PRAISE DA LORD AN' DROWN A CAT FOR GEEEEEEEZUS!" -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 3:16 PM EDT
- 49Patriots
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In Response to Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:And gives them the benefit of the doubt. How much different is the situation between Johnny Jolly and Nick Kaczur? Significant. Although both possessed copious amounts of codeine or codeine related drugs, Jolly has been suspended for an entire season while Kaczur didn't miss a day. Imagine if someone like Lane Kiffen had been caught taping. He'd probably been shot on the spot.
Posted by underdogggggHow is this proof that he loves the Patriots? It's proof that he loves Kaczur, maybe.And UD, give it a rest. If I remember correctly the 6 teams taped in spygate were the Jets, Steelers, Dolphins, Browns, Bills and Chargers. That's 6 of 32 teams in the league, and no where on this list are the Colts. That means we beat your a$s with talent and leadership all those years. A$sh013 -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 3:18 PM EDT
- russgriswold
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Wrong, Jack-A-Tool.
Braylon Edwards, Cedric Benson and Vince Young got into fights in the offseason.
Big Ben assaulted an under age girl and only got 4 games for a suspension.
Ronnie Brown is paying off the local Miami courts to avoid a DUI.
Joey Porter did the same thing in Arizona two months ago.
Apparently, Rogie Goodell doesn't know if he's coming or going and can't figure out what is a violation and what isn't.
We heard collecting technology from a game for future scouting purposes later on is completely legal. This was via Goodell's office in 2006. He also did nothing when NY was asked to shut down a camera from field level in Foxborough in 2006.
So, it appears there is a consistency issue with ol' Rogie. He plays tough in one spot and then turns his head elsewhere. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 3:21 PM EDT
- russgriswold
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:In Response to Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots : How is this proof that he loves the Patriots? It's proof that he loves Kaczur, maybe. And UD, give it a rest. If I remember correctly the 6 teams taped in spygate were the Jets, Steelers, Dolphins, Browns, Bills and Chargers. That's 6 of 32 teams in the league, and no where on this list are the Colts. That means we beat your a$s with talent and leadership all those years. A$sh013
Posted by 49Patriots
Note how the only road game from the field was SD in 2002.
AFTER they won the SB. Everything else was at home from the stands, which as we know is totally legal.
This tells me NE was blocked from being given the right to film from a specified location because they were granted one in Pitt in January of 2002 during the AFC Title game.
Why would Pitt grant them a spot if it wasn't legal or somehow a mystery advantage?
Interesting isn't it? Could it be, teams didn't allow the road team (when they chose to not allow it for whatever reason) to film which is technically illegal, so teams just filmed from the sideline?
Ohhhhhhh.....I think it is! -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 3:56 PM EDT
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People who say that the Pats received a "slap on the wrist" for Spygate must equate beheadings with slaps on the wrist.
It was an over-the-top, ridiculous, excessive, historic punishment.
It was like being sentenced to 10 years in prison for jaywalking.
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Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 4:01 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:Jimmy I usually have your back bro but the stuff you are saying about spygate is just wrong and I kind of think you are just saying it because Rusty got under your skin. But maybe im wrong and you really do buy into the crap morons like ESPN are selling. How should the Pats have been punished? kicked out of the NFL forever? Belichick should have what? been banned? give me a break. They took a first round! even with out all the fines they paid that alone should be harsh enough they took a 1st round pick! do you have any idea how valuable those picks are? they are worth millions of dollars and you dont think that was enough? And Kazcur turned in a drug dealer and got off easy with the police let alone the NFL. The NFL stayed out of it because im sure the police told them to or something along those lines. I know people get under other skin and force people to say stupid crap sometimes but come on man you are better then that crap.
Posted by MVPkilla4life
He's not, though. He took the media bait, as did every other team's fans who lost to NE at some point in the last 10 years, as a way to make themselves feel better about their own team's failures.
He posts here because he is jealous of NE's success.
And fearful that BB and Brady are still that great and ready to make another run. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 4:19 PM EDT
- Jimmy42Jack0
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:Jimmy I usually have your back bro but the stuff you are saying about spygate is just wrong and I kind of think you are just saying it because Rusty got under your skin. But maybe im wrong and you really do buy into the crap morons like ESPN are selling. How should the Pats have been punished? kicked out of the NFL forever? Belichick should have what? been banned? give me a break. They took a first round! even with out all the fines they paid that alone should be harsh enough they took a 1st round pick! do you have any idea how valuable those picks are? they are worth millions of dollars and you dont think that was enough? And Kazcur turned in a drug dealer and got off easy with the police let alone the NFL. The NFL stayed out of it because im sure the police told them to or something along those lines. I know people get under other skin and force people to say stupid crap sometimes but come on man you are better then that crap.
Posted by MVPkilla4life
A. i barely ever watch ESPN
B. i believe BB should have been fined more and suspended just like a player would be and that the pats and more specifically kraft should have been fined...and if only setting an example for the rest of the league to follow, the punishments needed to be strongers
C. im not sure how the cops could have legally kept the NFL out of it...maybe kazcur was rewarded for honesty late in the perverbial game...i dont know...but as is...seems like he got off scott free and that seems odd to me
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Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 4:22 PM EDT
- russgriswold
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Why should BB have been suspended or fined more if the Jets (as one example we know of who violated a location of a camera) were not fined in 2006?
Your problem is, you forced yourself to beleive the act of filming one's game, and any aspects of the game, is somehow illegal, when in fact, that is not correct. It's legal.
BB was guilty of the equivalent of speeding.
It was a Draconian ruling (look up the term since I know you have no idea what it means). -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 4:29 PM EDT
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Because if you are warned, then reminded through a memo and thumb your nose at the warnings, you should be suspended. It's simple really. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/19/2010 11:08 PM EDT
- 49Patriots
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:Because if you are warned, then reminded through a memo and thumb your nose at the warnings, you should be suspended. It's simple really.
Posted by underdogggggGive Spygate a rest, you douch3.That's every Colts' fan excuse for why the Pats had their dynasty. Well, use that excuse if you must, but we didn't need "Spygate" to beat your a$s3s.And I would rather have Belichick suspended a couple of games rather than lose out on that other first round pick. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/20/2010 1:56 PM EDT
- russgriswold
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If NE didn't reference the tapes in question or break procedure, other than not positioning the camera man correctly ON THE ROAD, where it is clear teams tried to block a road team from filming legally, there is no advantage. And hence, no "cheating ".
When are the trolls gonig to explain where the cheating is? Has anyone, whether it be a troll or an NFL analyst every even explained where they advantage is, if NE themselves are being filmed by the opponent?
What is scary is these idiots think the act of filming a game is the cheating part. Otherwise, where is the advantage if all teams film one another?
This is why the Jets tried to claim NE was running off into a locker roomin Week 1 in 2007, and within 12 mintues, somehow have signals translated, broken down and used in the game that day. Hilarious.
Yeah, and pigs can fly too, retahds.
That was an outright lie as we all know.
This is how desperate teams and trolls are. They don't even make sense. They just attach a word to the witch hunt and the media ran with it.
Kraft could have sued everyone for libel, including the Boston Herald. But, he's too classy for that and he's not going to put the team above the league. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/20/2010 2:22 PM EDT
- Jimmy42Jack0
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correct me if im wrong here...but i dont think anyone here and certainly not myself made the association between the only reason the pats are good is because they are cheating
personally...i think brady is the 2nd best QB to ever to play the position behind marino...i think brady has a heck of alot more to do with the teams success than BB, kraft, spy gate or any other XYZ reason
also...i wouldnt say there is alot of proof that goodell loves the pats...but they make him alot of money and that alone is enough to raise reasonable doubt -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/20/2010 5:16 PM EDT
- shenanigan
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I'm pretty sure he does not love the Patriots. The truth is Roger Goodell really loves:
Roger Goodell. -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/20/2010 8:04 PM EDT
- Jimmy42Jack0
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:Jimmy are you really trying to act like the Pats are the only large market team in football making Roger Goodel money? And if not if you are just saying that he loves teams that make him money then wouldnt it be fair to say rather that Goodel does love the Pats but in fact loves whoever makes him the most money? Or that he loves anyone who makes him money? And if thats the case then he loves every team in the NFL cause they all make him money.
Posted by MVPkilla4life
im not saying that at all...
my point is...you dont sh*t where you eat...goodell knows this and would never do anything to even remotely give the pats a reason to look at him funny -
Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/21/2010 2:26 PM EDT
- Jimmy42Jack0
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In Response to Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots:Ok so you are good with Goodel taking Miami's 1st round pick next year right? Since clearly thats a slap on the wrist and not a big deal? So if thats what you think then you wont mind losing your first round pick right?
Posted by MVPkilla4life
if there was proof before it was burned then id say miami should and probably would get what they deserve
goodell was easy on the pats...everyone that isnt a pats fan or pandering to pats fans will agree
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Re: Proof Roger Goodell Loves the Patriots
posted at 7/21/2010 3:38 PM EDT
- Jimmy42Jack0
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if the phins were proved to be at fault or cheating...i would expect their punishment to be harsh...setting an example through harsh punishment isnt exactly new