Re: QBs and 4th quarter comebacks....
posted at 11/5/2012 4:18 PM EST
In response to JintsFan's comment:
In response to agcsbill's comment:
It made headlines this past weekend when Peyton Manning passed Dan Marino as the leading QB to have led his team to a 4th quarter comeback for a win. 49 times to date versus Brady's 37. The last couple years a lot has been written about his brothers success in this area too. So, this news made me wonder.. how many opportunities has Peyton had to lead his team from behind to win a game versus Brady? These two are compared so often, does this mean he is better at it or his team is behind more often in the 4th than the Pats are when Brady is at the helm? In my memory, the Pats aren't behind in the 4th quarter too often and as a result Brady may not have had anywhere near the need to "bring the team from behind" to win. Did Manning succeed 48 times out of 100 games and is batting .480? I couldn't find that stat, but, on Pro Football Reference.com, I found this:
Since 2001, when Brady started, the Pats were behind 26 times in which Brady led a total of 37 game winning drives. Manning has been in this position 29 times with 38 game winning drives. What is not given is how many games their respective teams were behind and game winning drives were unsuccessful. We all know of one BIG game in which this happened, SB42 for the Pats. I am certain somewhere in stats land is such information.
numbers and stats can always ber manipulated, taken out-of-context, etc...for whatever purpose someone has and even then you have the "human element" ie: what was happening at that time and place in that particular game
the bottom line is all the guys mentioned: brady, both mannings, marino...and u can add favre and the great montana, stabler, staubach, etc...all worked their magic and had their big moments in clutch spots, along with their failures as they are all human and their teammates have something to say about this too (great catch vs drop etc)...thats why all those names have rings and/or are in the HOF
Good point, if they're special they will be put into that position enough times to build a legacy in both a positive light and negative one. The ones that weren't good enough...there's little in the way of either.