question... how has tony Gonzalez survived for 15 years...?

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    question... how has tony Gonzalez survived for 15 years...?

    This question was just raised by Shefter and callahan on their radio show...  Ever see TG running down the seem catching floaters...?  

    Point is that the play is begging the safety to wipe out your TE's knees...  Haven't you seen this exact play run to Gronk like 10 times....?

    He has taken shots to the thigh and knee area MULTIPLE TIMES....!!!!!!  Haven't you been watching and cringing knowing that it was just a matter of time until this (yesterday) happened.....????????     

    This play is hanging your TE out to F"N DRY.

    This injury is as much on Brady and MCD as it is on the safety.  Stupid to not protect your best player.

     

     

     
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    Re: question... how has tony Gonzalez survived for 15 years...?

    Probably cuz Tony G doesn't take absolute cheap shots with a helmet to knee at full speed. Anyone who takes the hit Gronk does has a blown knee no doubt

     
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    Probably cuz Tony G doesn't take absolute cheap shots with a helmet to knee at full speed. Anyone who takes the hit Gronk does has a blown knee no doubt




    why, though...?   because they don't call that play and have him do that .   Its like haven't you heard Phil Simms commenting how Brdy throws the ball low over the middle so guys like branch can catch the ball and not get "wiped out"...  

    There are plays that you run that are dangerous to players catching the ball.  Simple.

     
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    Probably cuz Tony G doesn't take absolute cheap shots with a helmet to knee at full speed. Anyone who takes the hit Gronk does has a blown knee no doubt




    why, though...?   because they don't call that play and have him do that .   Its like haven't you heard Phil Simms commenting how Brdy throws the ball low over the middle so guys like branch can catch the ball and not get "wiped out"...  

    There are plays that you run that are dangerous to players catching the ball.  Simple.


    very true. Didnt read you're thing just answered the thread question. But so true. They use Gronk to run a slot WR routes (Welker type routes) and Welker used to get jacked daily but Gronk it too big to slam so people just deck his legs. And so true how TB knows Gronk is 6'7 so he throws floaters leaving gronks body to dry 

     
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    Some players just seem to hold up better. No clue why but some just do no matter the hits taken (I've seen Tony G take a similar hit to the knee before and only come out with a knee bruise). Some are just injury prone, whether you think they are freak injures or not some just have bad luck that follows them. Vereen, Talib, Vollmer, Gronk, Amendola, Edelman all have had careers with random injures that have them missing games yet there are players who got the s**t beat out of them and come in week after week with no issues. Who knows why one way or another, just stinks when it's one of our players.

     
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    Gronk is 6'7" and Gonzo is more like 6'4" and Tony doesnt run many seam routes these days. He is more the underneath type and he survives by eating right and knowing the game and protecting himself. His body may be stronger due to his diet as well.

    What happened to Gronk s*cks but its gonna happen a lot now. You are gonna Blame Brady?! seems fitting I guess but how about the league for trying to legislate the game too much. Dustin Keller would be the 1st TE to incur the wrath of safeties trying to toe the line of playing hard and within the rules. The moment they made a stink about high hits, they put players careers in jepoardy and thats where we are now. Its always been a violent game though and these guys know what they sign up for. The same play happened with Gordon and Ryan expect Ryan didnt injure him. Guys get there knees taking out now. Its what the league wanted so deal with it and stop blaming Brady for World Hunger and War and Famine....Jeesh

     
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    Alot a luck

     
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    Odds, same reason some smokers never have ill effects from tobacco. Under the laws of probability some escape...

     
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    Gronk is 6'7" and Gonzo is more like 6'4" and Tony doesnt run many seam routes these days. He is more the underneath type and he survives by eating right and knowing the game and protecting himself. His body may be stronger due to his diet as well.

    What happened to Gronk s*cks but its gonna happen a lot now. You are gonna Blame Brady?! seems fitting I guess but how about the league for trying to legislate the game too much. Dustin Keller would be the 1st TE to incur the wrath of safeties trying to toe the line of playing hard and within the rules. The moment they made a stink about high hits, they put players careers in jepoardy and thats where we are now. Its always been a violent game though and these guys know what they sign up for. The same play happened with Gordon and Ryan expect Ryan didnt injure him. Guys get there knees taking out now. Its what the league wanted so deal with it and stop blaming Brady for World Hunger and War and Famine....Jeesh




    Im not blaming Brady, but I'm pointing out the responsibilty to protect your players with playcalling.   Do you run a bootleg with Brady and have him dive for a first down..?   No since he'll take a big hit.

    Any idiot could see this coming .

    I pointed out the many times grongk has been vulnerable to this hit and the safety for whatever reason...(sportsmanship...?)  hit him above the knee.   NOT this time.


    Please someone , anyone, tell me that you didn't see this coming.

     
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    Re: question... how has tony Gonzalez survived for 15 years...?

    Espn injury analyst put the recovery time at one year

     
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    Probably cuz Tony G doesn't take absolute cheap shots with a helmet to knee at full speed. Anyone who takes the hit Gronk does has a blown knee no doubt




    Yesterday's hit on Gronk wasn't a cheap shot at all. Go high get fined, and in most cases Gronk will run over most DBs going high.....only play to make on a guy as big as Gronk is to go low. Clean hit all day long.......just unfortunate.

    With the rules regarding hit to the head, you can expect many more knees getting blown out around the league.

     

     
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    This question was just raised by Shefter and callahan on their radio show...  Ever see TG running down the seem catching floaters...?  

    Point is that the play is begging the safety to wipe out your TE's knees...  Haven't you seen this exact play run to Gronk like 10 times....?

    He has taken shots to the thigh and knee area MULTIPLE TIMES....!!!!!!  Haven't you been watching and cringing knowing that it was just a matter of time until this (yesterday) happened.....????????     

    This play is hanging your TE out to F"N DRY.

    This injury is as much on Brady and MCD as it is on the safety.  Stupid to not protect your best player.

     

     



    This is a spot on point. Not talked about enough. I have thought the exact same thing. The middle floater at 6'6 275 is not good.

     
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    This question was just raised by Shefter and callahan on their radio show...  Ever see TG running down the seem catching floaters...?  

    Point is that the play is begging the safety to wipe out your TE's knees...  Haven't you seen this exact play run to Gronk like 10 times....?

    He has taken shots to the thigh and knee area MULTIPLE TIMES....!!!!!!  Haven't you been watching and cringing knowing that it was just a matter of time until this (yesterday) happened.....????????     

    This play is hanging your TE out to F"N DRY.

    This injury is as much on Brady and MCD as it is on the safety.  Stupid to not protect your best player.

     

     




    Anybody disputing this fact...?

     
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    Gronk is 6'7" and Gonzo is more like 6'4" and Tony doesnt run many seam routes these days. He is more the underneath type and he survives by eating right and knowing the game and protecting himself. His body may be stronger due to his diet as well.

     



    This might be true. Gronk didn't have this problem before he started shilling about eating those Dunkin Donuts sandwiches. Must be a connection between Big-N-Toastys and ACL/MCL injuries. They should be banned... 

     
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    Re: question... how has tony Gonzalez survived for 15 years...?

    Gronk from day one was a runaway train on the field. He has no concept about how to take a hit. He has likely never addressed this deficiency with any sort of training, whether mental or physical despite his plethora of injuries.

    He breaks his arm and the first day back he dives for an out of bounds ball and lands right on the same arm and breaks it again. The guy is a neanderthal.

    Like it or not, after first securing a spot on the football team, the next job is to learn how to stay on the field. All the talent in the world is worthless on the sideline.

    Gronk has been the epitome of reckless abandon. Gonzales plays tough, but uses his head in this regard. Gronk don't.

    Frankly, I think the Lord might have done him a favor by blowing out his knee, because this kook could otherwise end up in a wheelchair after breaking his fool neck.

    It's a shame, because Gronk clearly has HOF talent.

     

     
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    Gronk is a high visibility TE, as is Gonzalez.  It wouldn't surprise me that this is just a matter of bad luck as other TEs, as well as WRs and other ball carriers, are tackled in a similar fashion and some get injured in the same way.  What could also play a factor is the fact Gronk is much tougher to bring down with routine tackling.  Now, does it mean Gonzalez does not fight for extra yardage as much as we see Gronk does and he goes down more easily?  Who knows.

    Secondly, look at the how this tackle occurred.  This is not the first time a defender went low on Gronk or any ball carrier in the league.  The combination of the timing of the hit, where the leg was etc.. led to this unfortunate injury.  Haven't we seen many players hit in a similar fashion who just get up and walk back to the line for the next play and we wonder how they did not get injured?

    Overall, for ANY NFL player who survives years of playing in the league without serious injury given what the average career span is for these players is not the norm.  Some get lucky, like Gonzalez, others not, like Gronk. 

     
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    In response to coolade2's comment:

    In response to TripleOG's comment:


    Gronk is 6'7" and Gonzo is more like 6'4" and Tony doesnt run many seam routes these days. He is more the underneath type and he survives by eating right and knowing the game and protecting himself. His body may be stronger due to his diet as well.

    What happened to Gronk s*cks but its gonna happen a lot now. You are gonna Blame Brady?! seems fitting I guess but how about the league for trying to legislate the game too much. Dustin Keller would be the 1st TE to incur the wrath of safeties trying to toe the line of playing hard and within the rules. The moment they made a stink about high hits, they put players careers in jepoardy and thats where we are now. Its always been a violent game though and these guys know what they sign up for. The same play happened with Gordon and Ryan expect Ryan didnt injure him. Guys get there knees taking out now. Its what the league wanted so deal with it and stop blaming Brady for World Hunger and War and Famine....Jeesh




    Im not blaming Brady, but I'm pointing out the responsibilty to protect your players with playcalling.   Do you run a bootleg with Brady and have him dive for a first down..?   No since he'll take a big hit.

    Any idiot could see this coming .

    I pointed out the many times grongk has been vulnerable to this hit and the safety for whatever reason...(sportsmanship...?)  hit him above the knee.   NOT this time.


    Please someone , anyone, tell me that you didn't see this coming.




    I did as well as Herns knee injuruy from him always spinning in traffic. D.Wilkins ran the risk of getting hurt when he did 360 slams in transition(nba). it is what it is. No blame to place except with the league. once they put the emphasis on head to head hits, all these knee injuries started to occur. Other than that, its the nature of game. Gronk is a great seam route runner. How else are you gonna get him the ball?? Use TE screens like with Dan. Graham all day? or run out routes and ask him to break more tackles. Its a seam route. Its his Best route and effective in cover 2 Defense which are man more than 50% of the time. Thats all I can say. Coordinators dont think about injuries when they are calling plays. Brady  is actually one of the best at NOT hanging his guys out to dry but its the NFL. It stands for Not for long and as you said it was only a matter of time. Time to move on. I feel you bro, but its not a coaching thing. Its the game they play which Goodell tried to legislate and failed horribly.

     
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    Easy question!  He uses his head and not to bang into people with!

     
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    In response to coolade2's comment:

    This question was just raised by Shefter and callahan on their radio show...  Ever see TG running down the seem catching floaters...?  

    Point is that the play is begging the safety to wipe out your TE's knees...  Haven't you seen this exact play run to Gronk like 10 times....?

    He has taken shots to the thigh and knee area MULTIPLE TIMES....!!!!!!  Haven't you been watching and cringing knowing that it was just a matter of time until this (yesterday) happened.....????????     

    This play is hanging your TE out to F"N DRY.

    This injury is as much on Brady and MCD as it is on the safety.  Stupid to not protect your best player.

     

     



    Amen to you.  Finally I find someone who agrees with me.  I'll tell you why they have had him run those routes - the Patriots organization like with the other organizations winning and money comes first and your life is somewhere down the bottom of the totem pole.  If you go down, we'll just scrape you up and slide some other sucker in there...

     
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