Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : Last time you saw Moss he caught a great thrown ball (one of Brady's best passes that season imo) against an already injured Revis who was questionable to play the game because of his hammy and you think that's a good thing? Moss was nonexistent in that game with the exception of that one catch and if Revis's hammy wasn't already an issue I don't think Moss would have. Look at what had to happen for that catch to happen: #1 - Revis's hammy previously injured before playing that game #2 - Revis's hammy having to pull up on that particular play #3 - Brady making a nearly perfect long ball which he doesn't always do How in the heck does that show that he's still a viable receiver compared to what he did for the rest of the year. If anything it just shows the absolutely amazing rose colored glasses that you wear
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    That wasn't a great throw, it was an overthrow; it was a GREAT catch.

    I see NO sign of Revis "pulling up" in that video. I see him at the same speed for the whole play and just getting beat.

    Guess what? Catching a TD in a game is a big deal. If you do that every game you will have 16 for the season and will probably lead the league.


     
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    Does anyone really believe Randy is done? You need to think again. Look at the guys history throughout the NFL, he is just not interested in playing for losing teams. The issue with randy is that he loses focus and needs coddling sometimes. Randy can come in and be #2 behind Wes right away. Branch for some reason is not getting a lot of looks much to my surprise (hurting my fantasy team). The way things are shaping up, I wont be at all surprised, if he is signed for the last 3 or 4 games in preparation for the playoffs.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : Last time you saw Moss he caught a great thrown ball (one of Brady's best passes that season imo) against an already injured Revis who was questionable to play the game because of his hammy and you think that's a good thing? Moss was nonexistent in that game with the exception of that one catch and if Revis's hammy wasn't already an issue I don't think Moss would have. Look at what had to happen for that catch to happen: #1 - Revis's hammy previously injured before playing that game #2 - Revis's hammy having to pull up on that particular play #3 - Brady making a nearly perfect long ball which he doesn't always do How in the heck does that show that he's still a viable receiver compared to what he did for the rest of the year. If anything it just shows the absolutely amazing rose colored glasses that you wear
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]


    Sorry but Revis did not blow a hammy. It was fake. He got beat and then "decided" to blow a hammy. As good as he is -and thats tough for a PATS fan to admit-he is overrated and everyone comes out with excuses for him when he gets toasted. Just visit the gangreen website and see how ever JETS fan thinks smith blew that coverarge when the still photos showed REVIS had the coverage on Wes. Then watch his panalties on Brandon Marshall that were never called. He is fast for sure and smart with penalties, but Purely overrated
     
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    It was a perfect throw. You don't see it in the replay but Brady started his throwing motion when Moss hit the 20. Watch what happens to Moss between the 20-23 yrd line. HE SLOWS UP and drifts to the left sideline. Moss had to slow down again when he noticed that Brady had anticipated Moss running a straight go route. If Moss had run the straight go route like he was showing when Brady was in the act of throwing the ball was dead on target and not resembling an over throw. That's more miss communication where Brady anticipated a straight go and Moss saw a big hole and leaned towards the gap in coverage.

    Also notice Revis right leg with his first step after the 10 yrd line. It's clear he started to pull up at that point putting him a half a step behind Moss. He was actually catching up because of Moss slowing down until the 10 yrd line then Moss gained a step when Revis came up lame. This also caused him to stumble in those critical last steps. Again a number of things needed to happen for that play to turn out correctly and on a similar previous play Revis prevented the reception and did so on similar plays in previous games.

    It's in you video just watch where I told you and it's clear as day that Moss had to track back to a ball already in the air and that Revis lamed up around the 10 yrd line on the play. It was still a great catch by Moss it was a great play all around but it's a play where if Revis didn't come up lame he would have caught up to Moss or if Moss didn't back track to his right shoulder Revis might not have stumbled trying to change direction.

    But it's still 1 play! Moss made 1 of those a half in 07' and Welker makes a couple of drive saving plays like that a game. Heck even Tate provided a couple of those moments.

    Listen from 07-about Dec 09' Moss was the best WR we had. But, things started going south and they went south quick for him. Why do you think he's still sitting on the couch? Don't you think if he could get close to his 09' numbers that some team would have picked him up by now? That's all the proof you need is that he isn't on anyones team so far. Not a single team was willing to grab him for a 1 year deal which says volumes for what 32 teams think he can do in 11'
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : Sorry but Revis did not blow a hammy. It was fake. He got beat and then "decided" to blow a hammy. As good as he is -and thats tough for a PATS fan to admit-he is overrated and everyone comes out with excuses for him when he gets toasted. Just visit the gangreen website and see how ever JETS fan thinks smith blew that coverarge when the still photos showed REVIS had the coverage on Wes. Then watch his panalties on Brandon Marshall that were never called. He is fast for sure and smart with penalties, but Purely overrated
    Posted by achie[/QUOTE]

    He missed the rest of that game and played minimum snaps the next game and you think that was faked? Really? Revis is not as good as hyped but to say that he missed an entire half of a game against division rivals then had his snaps drastically reduced because he wanted to fake it. Wow, you can't be serious

     
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    It was a perfect throw. You don't see it in the replay but Brady started his throwing motion when Moss hit the 20. Watch what happens to Moss between the 20-23 yrd line. HE SLOWS UP and drifts to the left sideline. Moss had to slow down again when he noticed that Brady had anticipated Moss running a straight go route. If Moss had run the straight go route like he was showing when Brady was in the act of throwing the ball was dead on target and not resembling an over throw. That's more miss communication where Brady anticipated a straight go and Moss saw a big hole and leaned towards the gap in coverage.


    Absolutely not. Moss knew he had Revis ( and even the announcer says, "Moss knew he had him, he put the hand up early"). Moss was angling slightly left (there was no safety help, the field was wide open) so he could have a better angle on the throw by somewhat facing it rather than it being straight over his head. The throw was actually straight on and not at that better angle so he adjusted around the 10 yard line and made the over the head one handed grab.



    Also notice Revis right leg with his first step after the 10 yrd line. It's clear he started to pull up at that point putting him a half a step behind Moss. He was actually catching up because of Moss slowing down until the 10 yrd line then Moss gained a step when Revis came up lame. This also caused him to stumble in those critical last steps. Again a number of things needed to happen for that play to turn out correctly and on a similar previous play Revis prevented the reception and did so on similar plays in previous games.

    He was beaten by Moss by a step to the inside and half a step deep at the 20, not the 10. There is absolutely no sign of Revis "pulling up" until he reaches the back of the endzone and makes a slight gesture to his leg.

    It's in you video just watch where I told you and it's clear as day that Moss had to track back to a ball already in the air and that Revis lamed up around the 10 yrd line on the play. It was still a great catch by Moss it was a great play all around but it's a play where if Revis didn't come up lame he would have caught up to Moss or if Moss didn't back track to his right shoulder Revis might not have stumbled trying to change direction.

    People don't "catch up" to Moss in stride. Revis showed no sign of catching up in the least even before your phantom "pulling up" call.

    But it's still 1 play! Moss made 1 of those a half in 07' and Welker makes a couple of drive saving plays like that a game. Heck even Tate provided a couple of those moments.

    If your going to compare the game to what Moss did in what is probably the greatest season a WR has ever had, you are kidding yourself here. Just about everybody will fall short of that comparison except Randy in 2007.

    Listen from 07-about Dec 09' Moss was the best WR we had. But, things started going south and they went south quick for him. Why do you think he's still sitting on the couch? Don't you think if he could get close to his 09' numbers that some team would have picked him up by now? That's all the proof you need is that he isn't on anyones team so far. Not a single team was willing to grab him for a 1 year deal which says volumes for what 32 teams think he can do in 11'

    Randy is still sitting on the couch because he won't play for a marginal or bad team and he wants a certain amount of money. Reports are that the Pats did make him an offer and reports are that he is still getting calls.

    There is nothing factual about Moss having lost his ability. It is all spin.
     
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    Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : He missed the rest of that game and played minimum snaps the next game and you think that was faked? Really? Revis is not as good as hyped but to say that he missed an entire half of a game against division rivals then had his snaps drastically reduced because he wanted to fake it. Wow, you can't be serious
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]


    You think it is impossible that a guy who held out for megabucks before his contract was up would milk a recent hammy injury to cover his reputation after being humiliated on that play by Moss? I don't.
     
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    I don't think Moss is done in the NFL, I think he will return at some point for a 2 or 3 year stint and then retire for good.

    There really is no denying that the most explosive offensive season in Patriots franchise history was when Moss was with NE.  Could you imagine the fire power the offense would have with Moss back right now! If Moss came in with the 'use me when and where you need me' both him and the Offense would be unstoppable.

    I really thought there was a chance this could happen but at this point of the season I don't see it happening this year.  I thought the bye week would be possible but it really sounds like the Pats organization still have high hope for Ocho.
     
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      Moss went from Brady, to Favre, to V. Young.  From the greatest qb/receiver tandem in history to two consecutive pieces of crap at the qb position.  Hence 3 td's in 3 games to.... what it became.  He's got the physical gifts to put TD's on the board till he's 38, 39.  imagine what welker could do if other teams weren't game planning around him.  Imagine what Moss could do if other teams decided to game plan around Welker instead of him at this point, which is possible.

    Moss can not have one catch and still completely effect the game by way of stretching the field.  It has to get done.  After the super bowl loss he said that they had unfinished business.  Then Brady was out for the year, then Brady needed a year to get back in sync, then 2010 contract nonsense happened.  It's time!  Come on BB.  Go get a beer with him and let's make our one deficiency on offense a strength again.  It's unfinished business.
     
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    [QUOTE]  Moss went from Brady, to Favre, to V. Young.  From the greatest qb/receiver tandem in history to two consecutive pieces of crap at the qb position.  Hence 3 td's in 3 games to.... what it became.  He's got the physical gifts to put TD's on the board till he's 38, 39.  imagine what welker could do if other teams weren't game planning around him.  Imagine what Moss could do if other teams decided to game plan around Welker instead of him at this point, which is possible. Moss can not have one catch and still completely effect the game by way of stretching the field.  It has to get done.  After the super bowl loss he said that they had unfinished business.  Then Brady was out for the year, then Brady needed a year to get back in sync, then 2010 contract nonsense happened.  It's time!  Come on BB.  Go get a beer with him and let's make our one deficiency on offense a strength again.  It's unfinished business.
    Posted by passfirst[/QUOTE]

    This crap about Moss from most fans is sheer clueless drama queen BS.

    Moss asked to be traded and BB did that for him. This nonsense that he was dealt because he had a press conference  is absurd. Hell, if the Pats are offended by a player saying he loves the team and get rid of you for that then Mankins would have been excecuted for what he had to say.


    He's not going to play for cheap and he's not going to play for a crap team. That's why he is home.



     
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    Moss is a deep threat that is no longer a good deep threat.

    I irk everytime I think about moss vs the Jets when Revis was out. Brady forcing him the ball when Moss clearly could not get seperation against Cromartie and then us losing because of it.

    As much as I loved Moss, this is not the 2007-2009 Moss people, get over it!

    There is a reason BB has not signed Moss people, he knows better then we do!
     
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    idk, maybe he could come back, for the same deal as the first time, one year, vet min. release at any time.
     
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    [QUOTE]Moss is a deep threat that is no longer a good deep threat. I irk everytime I think about moss vs the Jets when Revis was out. Brady forcing him the ball when Moss clearly could not get seperation against Cromartie and then us losing because of it. As much as I loved Moss, this is not the 2007-2009 Moss people, get over it! There is a reason BB has not signed Moss people, he knows better then we do!
    Posted by GadisRKO[/QUOTE]


    You have ZERO substance that shows Moss is no longer good. ZERO. And BB has not signed him because of money and term. Reports have said the Pats made an offer.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : You have ZERO substance that shows Moss is no longer good. ZERO. And BB has not signed him because of money and term. Reports have said the Pats made an offer.
    Posted by BabeParilli[/QUOTE]

    Look at his last year in 10'! That has more substance then anything you have put out saying he will be good again!

    If there was any substance that he'd be a good receiver wouldn't some team, any team take a chance on him by now?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : Look at his last year in 10'! That has more substance then anything you have put out saying he will be good again! If there was any substance that he'd be a good receiver wouldn't some team, any team take a chance on him by now?
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    I already told you he had 3 TDs in 3 starts with the Pats last year. Are you trying to claim his short stint with the dysfunctional basket case that was the Vikings last year is proof he is over? Or is it the 4 games he started on the 6-10 Titans that you think is proof?

    He has been made offers. It has been reported the Pats made him an offer. The problem is how much money he wants and over what term. Why is this not sinking in with you?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : I already told you he had 3 TDs in 3 starts with the Pats last year. Are you trying to claim his short stint with the dysfunctional basket case that was the Vikings last year is proof he is over? Or is it the 4 games he started on the 6-10 Titans that you think is proof? He has been made offers. It has been reported the Pats made him an offer. The problem is how much money he wants and over what term. Why is this not sinking in with you?
    Posted by BabeParilli[/QUOTE]

    Yes because he has so many offers that he can just turn them down. You know who reported that? HIS AGENT. It was also reported by the same source that said he had offers from Phi and NYJ which both teams denied. Don't you think if he had offers he would have taken one by now instead of trying to prove he can still play?

    Ohh boy he had 3 TD's in the 1st 3 games huh? That never happens! and it never happens to average WR's! Oh wait it does. You know who else has that many? Gronk, Welker, and Hern has 3 outta 4 games but 1 was his come back game for injury so give him some slack. Are you willing to take looks away from them to give them to Moss?

    If you are giving Moss Ocho's spot then do you really believe Moss won't make a stink being the #3 WR on a team who runs primarily a 2 TE set?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : You have ZERO substance that shows Moss is no longer good. ZERO. And BB has not signed him because of money and term. Reports have said the Pats made an offer.
    Posted by BabeParilli[/QUOTE]

    Zero?

    Him getting Owned by Cromartie? Him being useless against Miami?
    Him doing nothing in Minny?
    Him doing nothing in Tennessee?

    Zero? 

    lmao!


     
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    With some people thinking he still has it.....I wonder why he is at home waiting for a phone call from any NFL team........
     
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      His press conference after the Viking/Pats game last year is what every other team is doubtful about.  He spoke from the heart and basically said "there is everyone else in the league and then there is the Patriots organization".  He told them through the press that he "loved" them and he "missed".  And then the the Vikings were revealed to be a second rate organization.  If any team that has a chance to win it this year has to go through the Pats, they are frightened of that press conference after loosing.  And no player or coach on another team wants a Randy Moss who would rather be somewhere else.

      So no one is calling and we all know why, his heart belongs to the Patriots.  And his talent belongs on the field in foxborough.  
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : I think one could argue that, if Moss is in game shape, that he would be more productive than Ochocinco right now. Do we "need" him more than a safety  or shutdown corner? No. But Moss would be both a good decoy, increase the length of the field, and be a deep threat.
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    [QUOTE]"In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots : ... Reports by people on this list don't count.
    Posted by dmpc[/QUOTE]

    despite being new to the boards, your wisdom is noticed
     
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    Has anyone said (or researched) how much money the Patriots would save by signing moss to 10 games worth of the veteran minimum and cutting Ocho?

     
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    I believe Chad will 'get it' soon and be a 2-3 catch guy in November and a 3-4 catch guy in Dec/Jan with a game-turning TD somewhere down the line. That is all we need, with health, to be a practically unbeatable offense.

    Yet if you told me right now Moss would be that 3rd-4th option do what the coaches ask player... a stretch the field, make no noise, content to catch 2-3 passes a game guy with 3-4 huge TD's (like the one to end the half vs. the Jets last year)

    and that Chad would stay the same 1-2 catch but 1 drop, 1 'oops' route and 1 flag per game detriment...

    Then who wouldn't want Moss?
     
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    In Response to Re: Randy Moss getting calls, is "listening" - heart still set on Patriots:
    [QUOTE]Has anyone said (or researched) how much money the Patriots would save by signing moss to 10 games worth of the veteran minimum and cutting Ocho?
    Posted by rameakap[/QUOTE]
    Not much. Majority of 85's money came from 5 mil signing bonus. His salary as such is low. By cutting him, you'll probably save 500k.
     
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