In Response to Re: Ras-I Dowling : Is premature your middle name?
Posted by Getzo
Posted by Getzo
It's his first name. His middle one is Jack and his last one is Ulation
Ras-I Dowling
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Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/27/2011 4:10 PM EDT
- Evil2012
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It's his first name. His middle one is Jack and his last one is Ulation -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/27/2011 4:55 PM EDT
- kjfiton
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hope i'm wrong but he's probably always going to have injury issues. that was a big concern when they drafted him and he hasn't shown to be durable so far .. his injury history goes back to high school. talented guy though and if healthy would really help this secondary. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/27/2011 7:57 PM EDT
- Patsman3
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What's worse is they spent the 33rd pick on this guy. First pick of the second round, everyone talked about how valuable it was and the trade value it had and then they go and take a chance on an injury prone guy that has been hurt since High School. Real bummer. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/27/2011 9:17 PM EDT
- brdbreu
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it may be too early to decide about theinjury concerns. most of his injuries have been minor prior to the nfl. however in my dradft review the one thing i said about possibly drafting him for he patriots was as long as bb ansd the staff check out his injury history and decide if thi will be an ongoing pattern or not. people do get injuies in the nfl. lets just wait and sea. hern had a hip for several weeks last year as well. nwith such a vague description, theres no telling wht teh injury actually is with ras, so lets nto evaluate what we dont know.
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Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/27/2011 10:50 PM EDT
- patthepatriot666
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Problems in regards to injury history. Played just five games in 2010 because of a left ankle fracture, hamstring pull and right knee injury. In ’08 he dealt with a hamstring and back injury. Started all 12 games in ’09. Pulled a hamstring at the combine but had a great pro day. Had a broken hand and a knee injury in high school.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2011/04/analysis_of_2nd_1.html -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/28/2011 1:41 AM EDT
- dmcpatsfan
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Ras-I Is a great talent with tons of upside that sits on the bench cause he's always injured...GLASS!!! -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/28/2011 10:17 AM EDT
- PatsLifer
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I get the excitement around Dowling, but mine's tempered quite a bit because of his lack of playing time due to injury. I hate to look in the rearview mirror on draft stuff (i do it time to time), but with the 33 pick, I would have hoped for a "no-brainer" vs. an injury prone CB that has potentially a ton of upside. This is not where I want to take a risk, but rather take a player with a higher probability of staying healthy, succeeding and contributing.
If BB knew at draft time he was going to run more 4+ man lines, AND he didn't have Haynesworth, Ellis, Carter, Anderson, GWarren penciled in, why not burn the 33rd pick on a DT or DE? Here's who was available between 33 (Dowling) and 57 (Vereen)....
Jabaal Sheard (Cleveland) 21 tackles, 3 sacks
Jarvis Jenkins (Washington), IR'D
Brooks Reed (Houston), 16 tackles, 1 sack
Da'Quan Bowers (Tampa), 6 tackles
Marvin Austin (Giants), IR'D
Stephen Paea (Chicago), 2 tackles, 1 sack
The only one above that might have been worth the pick (in retrospect)was Sheard based on production. I know a lot of us liked him going into the draft.
So, how does Sheard compare to Anderson, Ellis or Carter?
Carter 23 tackles, 3 sacks
Anderson 8 tackles, 4 sacks
Elllis 7 tackles
And for the most part, Anderson and Ellis don't get as much playing time as Sheard.
So, It appears again that BB is the genius. More production out of Carter, Anderson and Ellis than Sheard, plus gaining a potentially very good CB if he can stay healthy. -
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Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/28/2011 12:28 PM EDT
- BelichickforPresident
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Bodden released. Does that mean Dowling is healthy? I hope to hell so. Wonder what was behind the release. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/28/2011 1:45 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Ras-I Dowling:Bodden released. Does that mean Dowling is healthy? I hope to hell so. Wonder what was behind the release.
Posted by BelichickforPresidentBodden getting release or not doesn't change the fact that Ras-I is Glass.The biggest concern against Sebastion Vollmer and Ras-I Dowling was that they were frequently injured in college. Don't expect these two to have any long or productive careers. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/28/2011 2:50 PM EDT
- shenanigan
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This is played out a bit isn't it. He missed like 6 games in college in 3 years. How many players have had an injury if you go back to high school. Probably 90%. Let's release Gronk too. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/28/2011 7:46 PM EDT
- digger0862
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Agreed shenanigan, in college Dowling played in 12 games his freshman year, started 9 of 11 games in his sophomore year, played in 12 games his junior year and was injured in his senior season. He had 60 tackles his senior year in high school so I don't think he missed much time there either. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/28/2011 8:52 PM EDT
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22 and falling apart......sad. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/29/2011 1:14 AM EDT
- patthepatriot666
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at this point, it looks like the fifth round gamble on cannon is going to work out better than the second round dowling gamble -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/29/2011 4:51 PM EDT
- dmcpatsfan
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I'll be waiting for those appologies from those of you that gave me so much crap when I called the guy the patriots version of Bob Sanders, in other words GLASS!!!!!
RasI to IR after 2 games played.....GET USE TO IT PEOPLE.... -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/29/2011 5:00 PM EDT
- hambonawilliams
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Ras-I is Glass guy!
On IR and still collecting all that cash too...what a business! -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/29/2011 9:07 PM EDT
- Paul_K
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At least BB is stashing a rookie and saving a roster spot. Most rook cornerbacks need half a season to even make nickelback.
Bring back 305 lb Brandon Deaderick to our depleted D-line, to face Pittsburgh's running attack.
I'm willing to consider Edelman as an emergency DB. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/30/2011 4:43 AM EDT
- bredbru
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glass is so ridiculously premature. a torn tendon playing football does not mean youre made of glass. did you play football dmc?the way you talk it doesnt sound like it. did you play any sport that required physical exertion? you talk like you never played serious athletics. -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/30/2011 9:50 AM EDT
- dmcpatsfan
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GLASS!!!!!! -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/31/2011 3:42 AM EDT
- bredbru
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In Response to Re: Ras-I Dowling:GLASS!!!!!!
Posted by dmcpatsfanyour opinion. :)mine is you are a glass!!! bdc poster. :)still think you're evaluation is premature.and tendons are tendons.enjoy.:) -
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Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/31/2011 6:29 AM EDT
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In Response to Ras-I Dowling:Any word on this guy? Will he be back this weekend? I think we could really use him against Pitts recievers. Also are there any updates on Mayo?
Posted by OriginalPudge
Any word on Dowling? Yes...I've done some checking...and I've discovered that his name was originally "Ras Dowling". The "I" was added on during his senior year at Virginia. It's short for "injury". -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/31/2011 8:20 AM EDT
- JayShizzle45
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Ouch! -
Re: Ras-I Dowling
posted at 10/31/2011 9:12 AM EDT
- ATJ
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Oh for crying out loud - Glass???
The kinds of injuries discussed above that the kid had in college are not at all unusual nor do they indicate a tendency to be injured.