Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft

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    In Response to Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft : Who hasn't b-slapped our Defense. Cowherd said our D has allowed 18.5 points in last 9 games. He said be careful for what you wish for. Only media man with a brain. Bring on the Ravens!
    Posted by bobbysu[/QUOTE]
    This fact is TOTALLY forgotten by most talking heads.  That puts the Pats D within a couple points of the Ravens season long average.  With an offense that scores an average of a TD more than the Ravens per game, plus they are at home, I like our chances more than the Ravens' fans may like theirs.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft : Michelle Beadle. Yummy. I think she just plays contrarian to his raging woody over the Pats.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII[/QUOTE]



    Yep, I guess that's her job.   She's not bad looking but it's too bad she has to talk.  :)

     
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    Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft

    NE does play a lot of soft zone coverage. But I don't really think of them as soft. They took away the same amount of fumbles as Baltimore, had 40+ sacks (for the first time since Vrabel was here in 2007). Additionally, Baltimore hasn't really seen this defense. The personnel is different (4-5 different starters) than last season, and it's now a 43 base. They may be mistake prone at CB/S this season, but Chung, Spikes, Wilfork, Anderson, are not soft. 

    I don't really see how a power 2TE passing attack is "soft." 

    Tell the guys that Gronk and Hernandez run over that they are "soft."

    There is passing to ballerina's like the Colts' or the Saints do, then there is passing to big physical players like NE does. 

    It's apples and oranges. 

    Finally, the Ravens say this EVERY time they play NE. So there is no big difference here this time.
     
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    King...I thought the Pats defense switched INTO the 3-4 against Denver the first time...to allow the extra "up" DL and LBs to see where the play and blocking was developing. They spread out a bit more...unless i'm "misremembering" (great word)
     
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    Did you all listen to Rob Parker on 1st and Ten this morning?  What a TOOL!!  He refers the Pats 2004 SB win as "BS = Before Spygate" and constantly refers to the 2009 game thinking the Pats are the same team then as now and the Ravens as the same team then as now.  As hard as he is arguing against the Pats in spite of what the others on that show are saying speaks volumes of his anti-Pats bias.
     
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    [QUOTE]Did you all listen to Rob Brown on 1st and Ten this morning?  What a TOOL!!  He refers the Pats 2004 SB win as "BS = Before Spygate" and constantly refers to the 2009 game thinking the Pats are the same team then as now and the Ravens as the same team then as now.  As hard as he is arguing against the Pats in spite of what the others on that show are saying speaks volumes of his anti-Pats bias.
    Posted by agcsbill[/QUOTE]

    that just shows his lack of knowledge them.  teams evolve constantly throughout the course of a single season, so for him to say both teams are the same as they were two years ago is ridiculous.
     
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    [QUOTE]     No doubt...that's how Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Ed Reed, Ray Rice, John Harbaugh, and the rest of the Buzzards see the Pats. After bullying Brady and the Boys, 33-14, two years ago in Foxboro, they come into this game with a bully's mentality. It's up to the Pats to knock that chip off their shoulder, and reclaim their manhood...that was taken from them during that playoff loss.       For those of you who have forgotten, the Ravens kicked sand in the Patriots' face by scoring on their very first play from scrimmage...an 83 yard TD run by an untouched Ray Rice...right over Vince Wilfolk. The Buzzards went on to outscore the Pats, 24-0, in the first quarter, alone. Here's a summary of perhaps the worst, most embarrassing quarter of football, in Patriots' history: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=300110017      For the game, here are a few stats to chew on: 1.) Passing Game:      a.) Ravens' QB Joe Flacco completed just 4 of 10 passes, for 34 yards, and a pick. He finished with a passing rating of 10.      b.) Tom Brady completed 23 of 42 passes for a paultry 154 yards, 2 TDs, 3 interceptions, and a passer rating of 49.1; 2.) Running Game:      a.) Ray Rice rushed for 159 yards, and scored 2 TDs, on 22 carries.      b.) Kevin Faulk was the Pats' leading rushere, with 52 yards on 14 carries; 3.) Defensive "Highlights":      a.) Ray Lewis had 13 tackles, and a sack. For the game, Tom Brady was sacked three times, and lost a fumble. Ed Reed Duwan Landry, and Chris Carr intercepted Brady;      b.) After getting run over on the 83 yard Ray Rice run, Vince Wilfolk finished with 13 tackles, including 9 solos. Flacco was not sacked.          Here are the rest of the gruesome stats: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300110017      Don't believe that the Ravens think that the Pats are a bunch of sissies? Check out these comments...and it's only Monday: 1.) Ed Reed: “We’re coming and they know it,” Reed said about the Patriots: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/15/early-signs-for-ed-reed-look-promising/ ; 2.) Ray Lewis: “Bill (Belichick) and Tom Brady know they’re definitely going to see a totally different team,” said Ray Lewis , who wore his Super Bowl ring after the game. “We’re not the Denver Broncos.” 3.) Terrell Suggs: “Tom Brady... He’s good looking..."They’re a good-looking team. We’re not a good-looking team.” 4.) Ray Rice: “If they don’t play their best game, they’ll get beat." (The last 3 quotes from: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/baltimore-ravens-face-england-patriots-afc-championship-beat-houston-texans-20-13-article-1.1006458 ).      Here's more: This, from the Ravens' Fan Forum, after the 33-14 win:                                      Nuff said.                    
    Posted by TexasPat[/QUOTE]
    If you need to read into things that much to find your fandom motivation, that's pathetic.  And using a raven fan site to define the raven's attitude is laughable.
     
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    Ravens Defense for once will lose them the game this week agianst the Patriots

    theres an interesting article about the ravens defense at:
    http://www.sportsrageous.com/ravens%e2%80%99-defense-could-cost-them-afc-championship-against-the-patriots-01-17-2012

    I think the patriots have this one in the bag.
     
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    RWTK.. did you see how many times Parker simply IGNORED Mangini's comments that all needs to be put into perspective?  He just did not want to hear that the Pats defense is actually BETTER than he believes they are taking into consideration what Mangini is saying!   
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft : I agree.  It's not direct trash talking, but it's sort of a subtle way of doing it. 1. No kidding we know you're coming. 2. No kidding you aren't the Broncos. By Lewis saying we aren't the Broncos, that's a direct way of saying you ain't scoring that many points on us.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKingII[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. Pats definitley arent the same Defense from 2009 with Chung, Spikes, and Anderson (MeriWeather, Seau, & T. Banta-Cain). The Offense was missing Welker (Edelman), no Hernandez (C. Baker), no Gronk (B. Watson), no Branch (lazy Randy gettin doubled), no dynamic RBs like Woodhead (F.Taylor), Benny (Maroney), Ridley (Morris). # NightnDay
     
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    I understand this thread is about trash talk and how f*ckin annoying that it is.  And it is annoying as are the media pundits who are blowing hot air for the ratings.

    My take is this:  Pats are a better team than the Ravens and will win if they play their game.  If not and Balt gets to Brady  more than once or twice then it could be a long day.  I don't see this is as a cakewalk but a tough, hard hitting game in which Balt will try to impose their will on the Pats.  I do not believe they will succeed.
     
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    Did you ever notice that the teams w/ the biggest mouths (Jets and the Ravens) never really win anything at all? Let 'em keep keep flapping their traps.....the Ravens have already lost the game!

    Go Pats!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft : I think one of Sluggs major problems is he is butt ugly, and jealous of Tom's fame and fortune.
    Posted by xBruzer77[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, that's it. Suggs is so very jealous.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft : Yeah, that's it. Suggs is so very jealous.
    Posted by abrazell[/QUOTE]

    Oh, look... A lone troll with an epic first contribution!  Congrats!
     
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    Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft

    Just because the Patriots are an offense-oriented team does not make them "soft."

    I totally agree that the argument could, in fact, have been about the 2007-2009 teams with Moss, et al...that team didn't really play as physically as teams in the past did.

    But since the defensive players BB drafted in 2009/2010 began moving into the starting lineup, and since Moss was dealt in early 2010 and they began retooling the offense around the TEs and more of a short passing game, they've been much "tougher."

    Now, the 2010 team lost in the playoffs to the Jets, yes. But that loss didn't occur  because the Pats weren't "tough enough." It occurred because a mostly young team made a lot of dumb mistakes early on and gave the Jets some confidence, and because injuries had decimated the defensive front heading into that game.

    This 2011 team has shown a ton of grit, actually. They've rallied back from early deficits many times and they've also been much more physical up front defensively (the problems defensively have occurred mainly in the secondary, and let's face it, no DB in the NFL, except for Revis, is allowed to be physical with anyone anymore).

    They lost the Pittsburgh game not because they were "out-toughed," but because they simply couldn't get off the field defensively--Roethlisberger must have converted about 10 3rd and longs in that game to keep the Pats' offense on the sidelines.

    They lost the Giants game because of two VERY shaky pass interference calls and the injuries to Chung and Spikes in the 4th quarter--they certainly played them evenly over the first 55 minutes of that game.

    This "soft" nonsense has to stop. This New England team--2011 version--is not soft.

    Also, the 2009 playoff game is completely irrelevant at this point. Two totally different teams in 2011, and the Pats play a different style of offense entirely, too.

    And by the way, has any of these "expert" analysts mentioned Baltimore's mediocre road record?

     
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    Of much greater significance than the Pats not being 'soft' is what they are and that is mentally tough.  hardright has summed it up quite well, IMO.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft : Yeah, that's it. Suggs is so very jealous.
    Posted by abrazell[/QUOTE]

    Dd you have to think all day to come up with that response?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft : If you need to read into things that much to find your fandom motivation, that's pathetic.  And using a raven fan site to define the raven's attitude is laughable.
    Posted by UD6[/QUOTE]

         Chronic liars like yourself are pathetic. 
     
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    Re: Ravens Think Patriots Are Overrated, and Soft

         The Ravens are just like the Jets. They're going to trash-talk. Even beating them won't shut them up. They'll just come up with excuses.
     

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