Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

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    Great post Laz ..... Your right on the money with our Devin
     
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    Lazarus, not that I really know you and I don't want to creep you out, but I kind of <3 you right now. Thanks for the reasonable and well-researched analysis on what I think is a very good draft pick.

    P.S. I feel like your name is a little ironic because you're one of the few people on this board right now who doesn't sound like they need some diazepam and a straitjacket.
     
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    Whew, thanks for that.  For a second I was worried we got the wrong guy. But it's arm-chair, half-baked, amateur analyses like these that give us confidence tell the pro scouts to shove it. 
    Posted by murghkhor


    Riiiiight. Because you've read all of the scouting reports and none of them said he was going to be any good.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/348072-2010-nfl-draft-scouting-report-devin-mccourty

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563691

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-A-good-day-for-Devin-McCourty.html

    oh, wait...

     
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    Peacelaur ...LingMAO with your second part man, good stuff. And just like murghkor states, It doesn't matter IF you follow the NFL Draft 365 days a year for the past 10 years or so and dedicate you're time and great research to forming a comprehensive analysis through many varying Scouts and Scouting Sites on not just WHO is a good draftee, but WHO precisely would fit in with The New England Patriot formula and system......BECAUSE, IF You don't have you're very own web-site, you're critiques and analysises are ALWAYS going to be far less researched, informed and worthy, COMPARED with those that DO have their own web-pages.  And even IF you do a comprehensive and correct analysis of some draftees fit and skills, it'll always be debunked by most, if not all, sarcastic non-sequitor 1-liners by those who weren't intelligent enough to find fault in your player analysis, itself.  I mean...that's a given obviously. 
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium


    Thanks! I am, in fact, a chick, but I appreciate the props.

    Well, obviously if you were to get your own web space (preferably decorated with pictures of cheerleaders and blinged out Patriots logos) or Facebook group and post your opinions there, or maybe even a badge that proclaims you to be a person with Very Important Opinions, murghkor wouldn't have to lay the hammer down on you with such devastating wit. Unfortunately you seem to be setting yourself up for failure. For shame.
     
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    I liked McCourty but by no means in the 1st round. I thought at best he would be a #44/47 pick after we addressed our pass rushing need. I guess BB decided that the secondary was the better way to go. I'll fully admit I was extremely upset that they passed on Odrick, Hughes, and barring Kindle falling further him also. After a night to think about it I can see why they made the choice. Notice the run of CB's immediately after. If they were targetting a cb in the 1st 2 rounds then maybe they had it right and they needed to grab one early. The other thing of interest is that BB absolutely loves ST. We see every year he drafts players that can play both their position and ST's. Looking back on last year ST's was really hurting in both returns and gunners. So I can see why they took him even though I wish it wasn't in the 1st. Oh well if we take that extra 3rd we received and spend it on a Jimmy Graham or ship it to Oak for Morrison I'd be happy overall
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    As a Rutger's Alum, I know Mc is very good, just would have rather gotten him in the 2nd if we could.  He will be good this year on ST and as a nickle.  In 2-3 years can start.  Why 2-3, depends on Butler who has a year on him and I really like and of course we have Bodden still.  He will get his snaps and you will like his coverage in 3 cb Ds

     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    Well Laz, I had a restless sleep last night and your post gives me some hope I guess. But, I can't help but wonder if McCourty would have been there in the 2nd or even 3rd round for the Patriots.

    What's hard to swallow is BB having him ahead of Dez Bryant, Bulaga, Jerry Hughes etc; I find it hard to believe we couldn't have one of those players today and then get McCourty tonight.

    I'm trying hard not to freak on this draft and have this hope that tonight we see some big, capable names come to the Patriots.
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    thats the whole problem.he would have been there in the 2nd,or 3rd round.
     
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    This guy will be an elite corner sooner than later. Hopefully the other DB's will find some motivation with this move.
     
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    who cares. we didnt need a corner that bad. this has nothing to do with mccourty. too many other needs. 
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    Sorry but we wouldn't have been able to get him in the second round.  There was a run of cornerbacks at the end of the first round.  He would have been long gone.  You can bet the Saints would have scooped him up with the 32nd pick.  I think Kyle Wilson fits right in with the Jets being brash and being a cocky loud mouth.  I was surprised the Pats didn't go for a pass rusher but I do think McCourty is a good pick.  They wanted him and wouldn't have gotten him in the second round.  Maybe they move up to get Kindle in the second or he falls to us.  Maybe the same happens for Golden Tate/Arrelius Benn/Rob Gronkowski.  I think the second round will be a homerun for us.  Kindle/Tate/Gronkowski would be a great second round.  I was impressed by this piece of info from CBS website.
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563691?tag=pageRow;pageContainer


    In the last 38 contests, Rutgers has allowed the opposition to complete 572-of-1,038 passes (55.11 percent) for 7,144 yards, 36 touchdowns and 32 interceptions. Against McCourty, the Scarlet Knights opponents attempted 249 throws, completing just 88 (35.34 percent) for 684 yards and only two scores, an average of 7.77 yards per pass completion. He has allowed just 2.75 yards per pass attempt, the lowest figure of any active player in the Big East Conference.

    While those figures are very impressive, they do not tell the entire story of this shutdown cornerback's ability. Against his main pass coverage assignments, McCourty has held those receivers to only 42 receptions for 386 yards on 158 passes targeted into his area, meaning that quarterbacks have completed just 26.58 percent of those tosses and their intended targets were limited to 9.19 yards per pass completion and 2.44 yards per attempt.

    Those same receivers averaged 33.84 catches for 430.05 yards (12.71 yards per catch) and 2.47 touchdowns per season vs. other cornerbacks they faced. Devin has proven to be an excellent press coverage defender, as his excellent field vision has seen him make plays on the ball 45.39 percent of the time outside his area, coming to the aid after a teammate had blown an assignment. He has jammed/rerouted those pass catchers away from 148 incomplete attempts (average of 3.84 per game), the most of any cornerback in the Division I ranks during that span.

     
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    thats the whole problem.he would have been there in the 2nd,or 3rd round.
    Posted by mosseffectredux


    There is now way this guy would have lasted till the end of the first round. Jets might have taken him if the patriots didn't wilson and him were interchangeable
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

     Another great post. Short, sweet, and to the point as always. Seriously, good post, it is good to hear a positive attitude on this board occasionally.
     I think that we had a need a cb. Especially with the wrs finding there way into the afc east these days. Sure, we still need a pass rush, but there are a lot of picks left and there is nothing wrong with building from the back in instead of the line out.
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    Laz.  excellent and i trully mean EXCELLENT analysis.  this is exactly what I see in the kid.

    Look people, McCourty has been compared to D. Revis.  WE DID NOT DRAFT A SPECIAL TEAMER IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!! man some of these radio people are RETARDED. F U D&C on weei. how many NFL teams have they coached? oh right, ZERO.

    The first thing that stuck out to me about #21 is his crazy football instincts. 

    and more than anything else, we need guys who love the game.  McCourty is said to be one of those guys. 

    im still holding out for:  Pats trade 3rd pick to Raiders for Kirk Morrison.  now that they got McClain (finally a smart pick by oakland), we can swoop in and get a steal in Morrison.
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    why do you guy believe that he would of been there in the second round?  truthfullly, many drafts had him predicted to go late first round so there are definitely no guarantees that he will be in the second.
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    Guys like Mankins, Mayo, and Sea Bass were off the radar.  Most likely, this is the case for McCourtney, as well.
     
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    Thanks for that link!  I'm EXTREMELY happy with the pic now, expecially since he is a HS Ulumnus from my HS, like myself in NJ, St. Joseph Regional HS. 
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    Rick Gosselin (best mock drafter in the biz) had him going 28th to San Diego in his pre-draft.   
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    I was underwhelmed by the pick last nite, mainly since I was hoping for someone to improve the pass rush.  After reading these comments, my feeling has changed to just being disappointed with no pass rusher, but understanding (and actually liking) the reasoning behind the pick.

    Thanks to Laz and other who have made me a more informed fan.

    Here's hoping for help in the LB and DL corps in the second and remaining rounds.
     
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    Re: Regarding Devin McCourty: Read THIS Before Jumping To Conclusions

    [snip great post]

    Great post Laz! ;)

     
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