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    the frustration level which you dont get is that a 2nd round draft choice should be starting for this team...they shouldnt have to move their best CB to S...play a 3rd or 4th rotational S (Gregory) starters snaps, when they spent a 2nd round on Wilson.

    Dont even mention last years 3rd rounder Bequette not playing a single snap..

     
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    Belichick has had over 5 years to completely revamp a defense in his own mold. Scouts be damned, Belichick makes the final picks. They traded up twice last year in the draft, and they've drafted 2nd-round defensive players for several years. Belichick over the last 5 years has had the draft ammunition in terms of picks to trade up, down, whatever to grab the guys who can make an impact. If the Pats trot out yet another well below-average defense this season there is no one in the world to blame other than Bill Belichick. He constructed this as he saw fit. No excuses.

     
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    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

    I am sorry, I just have to do it...Have to.

    Look at this moron's comments. $100 he listens to the Felger and Mazz show everyday.

     

    Q. Mike, how on earth can you say "part of Belichick's greatness is going outside group-think" and cite Tavon Wilson as an example of why this is a good thing? If you want to convince me that drafting the Rutgers backfield is genius, you will have to do a lot better than cite Tavon Wilson as an example of Belichick's personnel prowess. If any other GM gambled and failed as much as Belichick does at drafting, they would be fired. Belichick the GM is fortunate enough to have Belichick the coach to bail him out. -- Dan (Boston)

     

    A. Dan, that is not the context in which those remarks were intended to be made regarding Belichick's "greatness." The point was that Belichick isn't afraid to stand on his own and go against the grain, and that's part of what makes him great. In my opinion, there are many in the NFL who are afraid to make the bold, unpopular decision because it could cost them their job or create unwanted headaches. Belichick seldom, if ever, makes a decision based on that thinking and I respect that. At the same time, I'm not defending draft picks like Tavon Wilson and Duron Harmon. In fact, I was actually questioning the pick of Harmon in the piece you mentioned.

    I'd like to point out to "Dan in Boston", that BB's last 3 drafts are no worse than an A- across the board.

    Read that again. 3 straight A level drafts in and out of a lockout.

    Be fired?

    What on god's green earth?  Our fans on the internet are utter morons. 

    Also, guess which team had the most Pro Bowlers (yes, I realize that is not the best barometer for judging) over the last decade?  The Pats!

    It's such a crock that he can't draft well. All it takes is one Kipr or McShay to say "that is a reach" and the moron part of our fanbase overreacts like the fat kid at camp when they run out Twinkies. Ugh.

    I actually like it when they say that because every time they say that, we get a Mankins, Vollmer, etc.

    Also, Tavon Wilson progressed well last year as a rookie. 

     



    your definately Hallowed Hoodie...right?

     
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    Every team misses on picks. Talk to their fans and they will complain about their draft. We don't talk about all of the udfa and late round picks that Belichick has been so good at finding talent.

    In the end I look at the Patriots record over the past 12 years and have to say he's the best. Brady is great but it takes more than that to win as much as the Patriots have. We as Patriot fans are a little spoiled. Lucky I'm not running the show or we would be trading up every year lol.

     
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    the AFC Championship game in Indy was perhaps the biggest hose job I've ever seen in any sport...period!

    It started with a bogus offensive PI call against Troy Brown at the end of the first half as the Patriots were on their way to at least a field goal and a 24 or 28-3 lead and culminated with the infamous face guarding call against Hobbs--Sorry, Swann & Stallworth wouldn't have changed that---never mind Deion Branch

     
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    well, maybe Swann & Stallworth would have made a difference...

     
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    Also, Tavon Wilson progressed well last year as a rookie. 

     




    Your level of dense is astonishing. Explain to us what don't you "get" about - Wilson could have been drafted much later? DENSE.

     

     
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    If any other GM gambled and failed as much as Belichick does at drafting, they would be fired. Belichick the GM is fortunate enough to have Belichick the coach to bail him out. -- Dan (Boston)

     



    People are finally starting to wake up. It's about time.

     
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    Well I think it's curious that he relies so much on colleges that he is familiar with in some way. Years ago it was LSU, then Florida, then Alabama...now Rutgers. I get some of it - you feel you can trust a coach's opinion on a player, but that is what you hire these scouts for...they are suppossed to come away with the inside information. I seriously wonder how often he has gone totally against his scouting department's opinion, research and grading...to take a kid from his buddy's school. This year I almost got the sense he sent his son down there in a van (Rutgers) and had him hang out for a weekend and then...boom! We select two of them.

    I don't think his brilliance is in his scouting, drafting and signing of free agents - I think it's in his coaching ability. He seems like the hardest worker in the NFL. He may be one of the smartest people in the league. I think he knows what a good football player looks like, I just think he has made some simple mistakes because of ego and trying to get the better of the deal. I imagine that would happen to anyone that has won as much as he has.

    I consider him to be no better or no worse than most when picking players. I consider him to have no equal in coaching. His teams are always disciplined, well coached, conditioned, improving and tough...they aren't always able to rush the passer, cover, run the football, run as fast as the other team...but they are always put in the BEST position to win. He does that.

     
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    the frustration level which you dont get is that a 2nd round draft choice should be starting for this team...they shouldnt have to move their best CB to S...play a 3rd or 4th rotational S (Gregory) starters snaps, when they spent a 2nd round on Wilson.

    Dont even mention last years 3rd rounder Bequette not playing a single snap..



    Sh1t happens...it's how you adapt to,it...and by all accounts, bb has adapted quite well. 

    Where is it written that a 2nd round pick is an automatic starter year 1? They are expected to contribute which Wilson did, and, I think he steps up and has a good sophomore season. By year 2-3, he will be starting. That is a reasonable expectation for where he was drafted. A top 20-25 pick should start, and hightower and jones both do.

     
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    In response to BabeParilli's comment:

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    Also, Tavon Wilson progressed well last year as a rookie. 

     

    Yes, Wilson and hthis years Wilson were A reach. I agree with that. However, if you forget where Wilson was picked and what his production was, I would say it was good production for a year 1 kid selected in the 2nd round. I sometimes think our expectations for players, especially rooks is a bit too high. jones and Hightower were selected in round 1, both started and were good. Mccourtselected in round 1, was good first year at cb. Same can be said for most if not all of bb's 1st round selections...round 2-3 on average I think is where you find solid contributors year 1, that are expected to crack the starting lineup by year 2-3...at least that is my expectation...




    Your level of dense is astonishing. Explain to us what don't you "get" about - Wilson could have been drafted much later? DENSE.

     

     




     
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    And I saw the Seymour and Vrabel moves as triggers for sure, a small rebuild in '09 and '10 was in order.

    The Bodden failure after a solid '09 also hurt as badly and was a good move before the injury. But you needed to replace guys like Law and Samuel... Butler, Wheatley, Wilhite and Ras-I were not the way to go.

    By the time 2010 was done with the team needed to see it was ready to contend again and solve the WR and CB positions. Letting a Boldin go to the Ravens to pick Price and then a year later not keeping Goldson in town when you had NOTHING opposite Chung at safety were pretty big blows.



    Agree, and bb would probably take some of that back. I am sure 100% of gm's would like a do over from time to time...just ask Ozzie about Sergio Kindle..it happens...I think the combo of FA bargain basement a d trading down taking value magnified the situation especially when it occurs in the same year...i also think the spotlight gets shined in part because we have picked a ton in the last 4-5 years. More chances to fail and succeed. 

     
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    People are finally starting to wake up. It's about time.



    This is why I don't take your evaluations of BB as a GM seriously.  Every time you get called out you claim you think he is actually pretty good, but not as good as some people here think. Despite that claim in most threads you post things like this that are not consistent with that evaluation.

     
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    the frustration level which you dont get is that a 2nd round draft choice should be starting for this team...they shouldnt have to move their best CB to S...play a 3rd or 4th rotational S (Gregory) starters snaps, when they spent a 2nd round on Wilson.

    Dont even mention last years 3rd rounder Bequette not playing a single snap..

     



    Sh1t happens...it's how you adapt to,it...and by all accounts, bb has adapted quite well. 

     

    Where is it written that a 2nd round pick is an automatic starter year 1? They are expected to contribute which Wilson did, and, I think he steps up and has a good sophomore season. By year 2-3, he will be starting. That is a reasonable expectation for where he was drafted. A top 20-25 pick should start, and hightower and jones both do.



    thats the point of the OP. BB the coach has adapted VERY well to the hand BB the GM dealt

    to keep harping on the issue, BB the GM plays the salary cap better than anyone. He puts the team in the best possible position. Its then that the philosophy throws me off. This whole board except for a couple of us laughed that BB "played" the Steelers. Meanwhile, for 500k, we dont have Sanders, we used that #3 on a player who most likely does not play on Sundays (similar to last years #3) and we were "forced" to choose 2 WR's...all because of 500K

    IMO, that is not smart management.

     
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    The idea that BB the coach has fixed BB the GM's problems is bogus for two reasons.  First, most NFL coaches on every team have a large say in who gets drafted.  

    But 2nd, more importantly please somebody here point out the magical GM that hits on every pick, I mean if it's so easy, and there are so many successful GM's elsewhere I'd love to know who they are?

    Just realize that when you pulls names from a hat the rest of the posters here are going to shred your list with the hundreds of players these GM's drafted that turned out to be "busts."  

    Why?  Because the draft isn't a science, a lot depends on people and people are unpredictable and unreliable.  

    You are what your record says you are, and Belichick is the best in the business. Period.

    If you took a poll of coaches, players, GM's and NFL personnel and asked them who is the best football mind in the business they would choose Belichick.  Only the entitled fans, trolls and BDC employees they hire to raise the number of hits the site receives choose to disagree.

     
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    In response to pcmIV's comment:

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    People are finally starting to wake up. It's about time.

     



    This is why I don't take your evaluations of BB as a GM seriously.  Every time you get called out you claim you think he is actually pretty good, but not as good as some people here think. Despite that claim in most threads you post things like this that are not consistent with that evaluation.

     



    That's called "trolling".  I would throw rkarp the jets fan into this category as well. 2 dedicated trolls, posing as Pats fans. It must be exhausting...

     
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    In response to wozzy's comment:

    The idea that BB the coach has fixed BB the GM's problems is bogus for two reasons.  First, most NFL coaches on every team have a large say in who gets drafted.  

    But 2nd, more importantly please somebody here point out the magical GM that hits on every pick, I mean if it's so easy, and there are so many successful GM's elsewhere I'd love to know who they are?

    Just realize that when you pulls names from a hat the rest of the posters here are going to shred your list with the hundreds of players these GM's drafted that turned out to be "busts."  

    Why?  Because the draft isn't a science, a lot depends on people and people are unpredictable and unreliable.  

    You are what your record says you are, and Belichick is the best in the business. Period.

    If you took a poll of coaches, players, GM's and NFL personnel and asked them who is the best football mind in the business they would choose Belichick.  Only the entitled fans, trolls and BDC employees they hire to raise the number of hits the site receives choose to disagree.



    Wozzy, why is it that you are allowed to have some fun and speculate on the draft choices with your mock draft, yet some of us cant have some fun and second guess some of the choices BB makes? Why is that trolling? Why does that make us less of a fan?

    Can someone take an objective look at the draft this year and have an opinion that the Jets made some nice draft choices, and not be a troll? Can someone take a look at the draft and have an opinion that they wished the Pats had traded up a few spots and drafted a DT?  Why is experssing an opinion on that "trolling"? Isnt this board all in good fun, throwing around some thoughts, ideas and opinions? Or does that only go for guys that post mock drafts, like we dont already have enough of those?

     

     
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