Remember When People Raved About SF and Balt's D?

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    im telling ya rusty, people are morons. last night said it all...its an offensive league, and ours has choked in the playoffs.

     




    Yep. It's become more and more a reality since last year's SB loss. 

     




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    To funny Rusty.  This game was EXACTLY like the Pats recent playoff failures.  Offense starts out fast and then fades in the second half BUT they still have a lead.  All they need is that ONE defensive stand by the D.   Balt got it and won the Super Bowl, NE did not and they lost 2 Super Bowls.

    Can you imagine if the Pats only scored 6 points (2 FG) the whole second half of the Super Bowl???  You would be all over them.  Difference here is the Balt D saved Flacco's butt.  To bad NE D coudlnt make one stop when it really mattered....

     




    Shhhh. Rusty will be in hot water with "the voices" if he heeds your very sensible words.

     
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    im telling ya rusty, people are morons. last night said it all...its an offensive league, and ours has choked in the playoffs.

     




    Nice self description Rusty Clone.

     

     



    saw this one coming a mile away. nice rebuttle babe, as always...

     

     




    What's to rebut? Your spewing nonsense with no factual bakup Rusty Clone?

     




    factual backup?????????? the super bowl was a match-up of two of the best, most physical defenses in the league and it ended in a 34-31 score!! and you have been on here blaming the pats defense while our offense could only score 13 damn points!! the 9ers had 6 points at halftime and still found a way to score 29 points!

     
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    The point is, the outage CLEARLY helped SF and hurt Balt.



    Junior, just because something exists in your brain as "clear" doesn't mean it is clear out here in realityland.

     
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    To funny Rusty.  This game was EXACTLY like the Pats recent playoff failures.  Offense starts out fast and then fades in the second half BUT they still have a lead.  All they need is that ONE defensive stand by the D.   Balt got it and won the Super Bowl, NE did not and they lost 2 Super Bowls.

    Can you imagine if the Pats only scored 6 points (2 FG) the whole second half of the Super Bowl???  You would be all over them.  Difference here is the Balt D saved Flacco's butt.  To bad NE D coudlnt make one stop when it really mattered....

     



    yea the ravens really saved flacco by allowing 23 points in the second half.....they made a goalline stop by having their cornerbacks hold the 9ers receivers in the end zone, yea real impressive.....oh and btw, if you want to talk about goalline stands, didnt the pats defense do that in last years afc title game? oh yeah, they did.....so did they "bail out" brady that game? apparently they did by your awful logic. and in the super bowl, they had no choice but to let the giants score because the giants were trying to run the clock down more to give the pats offense no shot. its just mindblowing that you fools continue to back the offense when they have been the problem in the playoffs for awhile now.

     
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    To funny Rusty.  This game was EXACTLY like the Pats recent playoff failures.  Offense starts out fast and then fades in the second half BUT they still have a lead.  All they need is that ONE defensive stand by the D.   Balt got it and won the Super Bowl, NE did not and they lost 2 Super Bowls.

    Can you imagine if the Pats only scored 6 points (2 FG) the whole second half of the Super Bowl???  You would be all over them.  Difference here is the Balt D saved Flacco's butt.  To bad NE D coudlnt make one stop when it really mattered....

     

     



    yea the ravens really saved flacco by allowing 23 points in the second half.....they made a goalline stop by having their cornerbacks hold the 9ers receivers in the end zone, yea real impressive.....oh and btw, if you want to talk about goalline stands, didnt the pats defense do that in last years afc title game? oh yeah, they did.....so did they "bail out" brady that game? apparently they did by your awful logic. and in the super bowl, they had no choice but to let the giants score because the giants were trying to run the clock down more to give the pats offense no shot. its just mindblowing that you fools continue to back the offense when they have been the problem in the playoffs for awhile now.

     

     



    It's fascinating, isn't it? They're so madly in love with Brady, they think 14, 13 or 17 points in postseason games is plenty of points in this day and age.

     

    They apparently cheer for FGs and lack of red zone execution, too. lol

     



    theres a difference between being a brady fan and being brainwashed. im a huge brady fan, i think hes top 3 all time and may retire as the G.O.A.T. but im not going to act like he hasnt fallen off a bit. 13 points in a home afc championship game speaks for itself.

     
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    You can't take one sample and use it to generalize and label. Have offenses been much more efficient in the past 6-7 years, especially the past 2-3? Yes. Rule changes probably have had some effect, but a lot of it is that quarterbacks are getting better and better, offenses are evolving, and execution is at a much higher level.

    While I would agree that scoring a lot of points helps your chances to win, it'd be silly to entirely dismiss defense altogether, and simply say it's an 'offensive era'. As evidenced in the AFCCG, playing solid defense (or not, for that matter) can have a huge effect on the outcome of the game. Baltimore played incredibly good defense, and our offense sputtered. To put full blame on Brady and the offense, and completely disregard the fact that the Ravens were actually fielding a defense is a bit short-sited in my opinion. But that's neither here nor there.

    Back to the topic... are offenses performing better as of late? Yes. But that doesn't mean that defense is irrelevant or completely useless when building a winning football team. 

     



    I am not dissmissing D, I am saying the league has changed.  I have been attacked on this board for literally 3 years for saying it, simply pointing to a weak offense of our own in the postseason as to why we're losing SBs.

     

    Meanwhile, a small group have run around here making excuses for our own offense's failures, which actually have been the root cause of the playoff losses, not the D.

    The Ravens won because Flacco>Kaepernick.  Brady has always been WORSE than the other QB in each of our bad playoff losses.  The Washers here were quick to see our own D was so abysmal and be referencing points allowed, etc, even if our own QB or offense would turn it over, sometimes multiple times.

    As you can see, when SF turned it over last night, multiple times, it affected their own D.

    Not so fantastic with a bad offense for an entire half and turnovers, huh? Imagine if our D gave up 21 points in the first half in a SB?

    The Washers would have BB strung up here, thread after thread.

     

     




    Did you watch the game?

     

    Despite all the offensive play, it was a 13 possession game not an 8 possession game,

    which generally means more scoring.

    I don't care for either QB but they did play well.

    Still, it DID come down to one final defensive stop by an old, tired, and injured RAVENS DEFENSE, to win that game.

    Without that one goal line stand, all Flacco's and his offenses efforts (((((while holding on to a slim lead))))))) would have failed.  Sound familiar?

    Too bad the Pats didn't have such a D in 06, 07, 10, 11, 12.

    Defense wins championships!

     




    no, it doesnt sound familiar.....if brady played as well as flacco did in that game in the playoffs of recent memory, the pats would have 5, maybe even 6 rings right now. he hasnt, so they dont.

     




    Really, would Balty have won if while holding on to a slim lead, their D didn't make a goal line stand?  Doubtful.  How about zero ints or TO's?  Or their scoring contribution from ST's?

    Did the Pats D make a goal line stand?  Nope!  Did they get any turn overs?  Nope how about a 108yrd run back?  Nope.

    Without those, Flacco would have lost.

    Without those, the Pats did lose.

    Learn the game

     
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    If it doesn't make sense to draw conclusions about how a team will perform against another team based on their respective performances against common opponents during the same season then it strikes me as being even less logical to compare different teams in different Super Bowls against different opponents.  Just my opinion.

     
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    You can't take one sample and use it to generalize and label. Have offenses been much more efficient in the past 6-7 years, especially the past 2-3? Yes. Rule changes probably have had some effect, but a lot of it is that quarterbacks are getting better and better, offenses are evolving, and execution is at a much higher level.

    While I would agree that scoring a lot of points helps your chances to win, it'd be silly to entirely dismiss defense altogether, and simply say it's an 'offensive era'. As evidenced in the AFCCG, playing solid defense (or not, for that matter) can have a huge effect on the outcome of the game. Baltimore played incredibly good defense, and our offense sputtered. To put full blame on Brady and the offense, and completely disregard the fact that the Ravens were actually fielding a defense is a bit short-sited in my opinion. But that's neither here nor there.

    Back to the topic... are offenses performing better as of late? Yes. But that doesn't mean that defense is irrelevant or completely useless when building a winning football team. 

     



    I am not dissmissing D, I am saying the league has changed.  I have been attacked on this board for literally 3 years for saying it, simply pointing to a weak offense of our own in the postseason as to why we're losing SBs.

     

    Meanwhile, a small group have run around here making excuses for our own offense's failures, which actually have been the root cause of the playoff losses, not the D.

    The Ravens won because Flacco>Kaepernick.  Brady has always been WORSE than the other QB in each of our bad playoff losses.  The Washers here were quick to see our own D was so abysmal and be referencing points allowed, etc, even if our own QB or offense would turn it over, sometimes multiple times.

    As you can see, when SF turned it over last night, multiple times, it affected their own D.

    Not so fantastic with a bad offense for an entire half and turnovers, huh? Imagine if our D gave up 21 points in the first half in a SB?

    The Washers would have BB strung up here, thread after thread.

     

     




    Did you watch the game?

     

    Despite all the offensive play, it was a 13 possession game not an 8 possession game,

    which generally means more scoring.

    I don't care for either QB but they did play well.

    Still, it DID come down to one final defensive stop by an old, tired, and injured RAVENS DEFENSE, to win that game.

    Without that one goal line stand, all Flacco's and his offenses efforts (((((while holding on to a slim lead))))))) would have failed.  Sound familiar?

    Too bad the Pats didn't have such a D in 06, 07, 10, 11, 12.

    Defense wins championships!

     




    no, it doesnt sound familiar.....if brady played as well as flacco did in that game in the playoffs of recent memory, the pats would have 5, maybe even 6 rings right now. he hasnt, so they dont.

     

     




    Really, would Balty have won if while holding on to a slim lead, their D didn't make a goal line stand?  Doubtful.  How about zero ints or TO's?  Or their scoring contribution from ST's?

     

    Did the Pats D make a goal line stand?  Nope!  Did they get any turn overs?  Nope how about a 108yrd run back?  Nope.

    Without those, Flacco would have lost.

    Without those, the Pats did lose.

    Learn the game




    wel since im called a "rusty clone"....i guess you are the new "babe clone". enough with this learn the game crap, because you dont know it one damn bit. you think im happy with the special teams play?? absolutely not, ive been saying mccourty is awful back there and he has no idea what he is doing back there. plus you dont know that baltimore couldnt have won if they didnt stop the niners there...flacco would have nearly two minutes to get in field goal range to either tie or win the game.....if i remember correctly, brady did that twice....way back when he didnt p.iss his pants in the big playoff games.

     
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    im telling ya rusty, people are morons. last night said it all...its an offensive league, and ours has choked in the playoffs.

     




    Nice self description Rusty Clone.

     

     



    saw this one coming a mile away. nice rebuttle babe, as always...

     

     




    What's to rebut? Your spewing nonsense with no factual bakup Rusty Clone?

     

     




    factual backup?????????? the super bowl was a match-up of two of the best, most physical defenses in the league and it ended in a 34-31 score!! and you have been on here blaming the pats defense while our offense could only score 13 damn points!! the 9ers had 6 points at halftime and still found a way to score 29 points!

     




    Because the D made ZERO rz stops.  Did the Balty D make ZERO rz stops?

     
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    To funny Rusty.  This game was EXACTLY like the Pats recent playoff failures.  Offense starts out fast and then fades in the second half BUT they still have a lead.  All they need is that ONE defensive stand by the D.   Balt got it and won the Super Bowl, NE did not and they lost 2 Super Bowls.

    Can you imagine if the Pats only scored 6 points (2 FG) the whole second half of the Super Bowl???  You would be all over them.  Difference here is the Balt D saved Flacco's butt.  To bad NE D coudlnt make one stop when it really mattered....

     

     




    Umm, an odd power outage taking away momentum from the Ravens or flat out horrendous game management by Kaerpernick at the end has nothing to do with the "Ravens D". They got toasted as an old D that was clearly gassed. It was a game of two halves that came down to a rookie QB choking on 3 plays from the 5 yard line.

     

    Also, the call at the end was very borderline, too.  If any one of our DBs did that, it's a 1st and goal from the 1 and a fresh set of downs.

     

     



    if it were one of our db's, there would be a flag and people would be saying that our db's cant cover without committing penalties....since its the ravens, its a good no call and the refs were right for "letting them play". unbelievable.

     
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    To funny Rusty.  This game was EXACTLY like the Pats recent playoff failures.  Offense starts out fast and then fades in the second half BUT they still have a lead.  All they need is that ONE defensive stand by the D.   Balt got it and won the Super Bowl, NE did not and they lost 2 Super Bowls.

    Can you imagine if the Pats only scored 6 points (2 FG) the whole second half of the Super Bowl???  You would be all over them.  Difference here is the Balt D saved Flacco's butt.  To bad NE D coudlnt make one stop when it really mattered....

     

     



    yea the ravens really saved flacco by allowing 23 points in the second half.....they made a goalline stop by having their cornerbacks hold the 9ers receivers in the end zone, yea real impressive.....oh and btw, if you want to talk about goalline stands, didnt the pats defense do that in last years afc title game? oh yeah, they did.....so did they "bail out" brady that game? apparently they did by your awful logic. and in the super bowl, they had no choice but to let the giants score because the giants were trying to run the clock down more to give the pats offense no shot. its just mindblowing that you fools continue to back the offense when they have been the problem in the playoffs for awhile now.

     



    Yes in the last two Super Bowls the Pats had the lead and all the defense had to do was make ONE stop and they couldn't......but thats Brady's fault.  Talk about mindblowing.

     
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    im telling ya rusty, people are morons. last night said it all...its an offensive league, and ours has choked in the playoffs.

     




    Nice self description Rusty Clone.

     

     



    saw this one coming a mile away. nice rebuttle babe, as always...

     

     




    What's to rebut? Your spewing nonsense with no factual bakup Rusty Clone?

     

     




    factual backup?????????? the super bowl was a match-up of two of the best, most physical defenses in the league and it ended in a 34-31 score!! and you have been on here blaming the pats defense while our offense could only score 13 damn points!! the 9ers had 6 points at halftime and still found a way to score 29 points!

     

     




    Because the D made ZERO rz stops.  Did the Balty D make ZERO rz stops?

     




    yea they made a goal line stop after allowing 29 points!

     

    how much of a difference would a goal-line stand have made for the pats if they made one at the end of the game after allowing those 28 points? would you be applauding that? i dont think so. you know what the missing piece is?

    you guessed it. THE OFFENSE.

     
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    im telling ya rusty, people are morons. last night said it all...its an offensive league, and ours has choked in the playoffs.

     




    Nice self description Rusty Clone.

     

     



    saw this one coming a mile away. nice rebuttle babe, as always...

     

     




    What's to rebut? Your spewing nonsense with no factual bakup Rusty Clone?

     

     




    factual backup?????????? the super bowl was a match-up of two of the best, most physical defenses in the league and it ended in a 34-31 score!! and you have been on here blaming the pats defense while our offense could only score 13 damn points!! the 9ers had 6 points at halftime and still found a way to score 29 points!

     



    You and your clone brother Rusty are trying to define the "state of the NFL" by one game Rusty Clone. We are sorry to inform you that this makes you two the morons you claim the rest of us are. LMAO@U2

    Get it right cloneboy. I haven't exclusively blamed the D for the Ravens' loss. I've blamed poor running, poor blocking, receivers failing to get open, dropped passes and poor defense for the loss. I'm certainly not going to give Brady a gold star for the game but when you're the only guy on the team doing much of anything well it's not fair to group you in with the rest of the terrible performers.

     

     
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    You can't take one sample and use it to generalize and label. Have offenses been much more efficient in the past 6-7 years, especially the past 2-3? Yes. Rule changes probably have had some effect, but a lot of it is that quarterbacks are getting better and better, offenses are evolving, and execution is at a much higher level.

    While I would agree that scoring a lot of points helps your chances to win, it'd be silly to entirely dismiss defense altogether, and simply say it's an 'offensive era'. As evidenced in the AFCCG, playing solid defense (or not, for that matter) can have a huge effect on the outcome of the game. Baltimore played incredibly good defense, and our offense sputtered. To put full blame on Brady and the offense, and completely disregard the fact that the Ravens were actually fielding a defense is a bit short-sited in my opinion. But that's neither here nor there.

    Back to the topic... are offenses performing better as of late? Yes. But that doesn't mean that defense is irrelevant or completely useless when building a winning football team. 

     



    I am not dissmissing D, I am saying the league has changed.  I have been attacked on this board for literally 3 years for saying it, simply pointing to a weak offense of our own in the postseason as to why we're losing SBs.

     

    Meanwhile, a small group have run around here making excuses for our own offense's failures, which actually have been the root cause of the playoff losses, not the D.

    The Ravens won because Flacco>Kaepernick.  Brady has always been WORSE than the other QB in each of our bad playoff losses.  The Washers here were quick to see our own D was so abysmal and be referencing points allowed, etc, even if our own QB or offense would turn it over, sometimes multiple times.

    As you can see, when SF turned it over last night, multiple times, it affected their own D.

    Not so fantastic with a bad offense for an entire half and turnovers, huh? Imagine if our D gave up 21 points in the first half in a SB?

    The Washers would have BB strung up here, thread after thread.

     

     




    Did you watch the game?

     

    Despite all the offensive play, it was a 13 possession game not an 8 possession game,

    which generally means more scoring.

    I don't care for either QB but they did play well.

    Still, it DID come down to one final defensive stop by an old, tired, and injured RAVENS DEFENSE, to win that game.

    Without that one goal line stand, all Flacco's and his offenses efforts (((((while holding on to a slim lead))))))) would have failed.  Sound familiar?

    Too bad the Pats didn't have such a D in 06, 07, 10, 11, 12.

    Defense wins championships!

     




    no, it doesnt sound familiar.....if brady played as well as flacco did in that game in the playoffs of recent memory, the pats would have 5, maybe even 6 rings right now. he hasnt, so they dont.

     

     




    Really, would Balty have won if while holding on to a slim lead, their D didn't make a goal line stand?  Doubtful.  How about zero ints or TO's?  Or their scoring contribution from ST's?

     

    Did the Pats D make a goal line stand?  Nope!  Did they get any turn overs?  Nope how about a 108yrd run back?  Nope.

    Without those, Flacco would have lost.

    Without those, the Pats did lose.

    Learn the game

     




    wel since im called a "rusty clone"....i guess you are the new "babe clone". enough with this learn the game crap, because you dont know it one damn bit. you think im happy with the special teams play?? absolutely not, ive been saying mccourty is awful back there and he has no idea what he is doing back there. plus you dont know that baltimore couldnt have won if they didnt stop the niners there...flacco would have nearly two minutes to get in field goal range to either tie or win the game.....if i remember correctly, brady did that twice....way back when he didnt p.iss his pants in the big playoff games.

     




    I know nothing??? BWAHAAA

    Brady had the lead in 2 low scoring low possession games.  The D failed to make a stop with seconds left with a narrow lead. 

    Last nights higher scoring 13 possession game (5 more scoring opportunities) came down to 1 stop with seconds left.

    Balt made the stop and the Pats didn't,  Case closed!

     
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    To funny Rusty.  This game was EXACTLY like the Pats recent playoff failures.  Offense starts out fast and then fades in the second half BUT they still have a lead.  All they need is that ONE defensive stand by the D.   Balt got it and won the Super Bowl, NE did not and they lost 2 Super Bowls.

    Can you imagine if the Pats only scored 6 points (2 FG) the whole second half of the Super Bowl???  You would be all over them.  Difference here is the Balt D saved Flacco's butt.  To bad NE D coudlnt make one stop when it really mattered....

     

     



    yea the ravens really saved flacco by allowing 23 points in the second half.....they made a goalline stop by having their cornerbacks hold the 9ers receivers in the end zone, yea real impressive.....oh and btw, if you want to talk about goalline stands, didnt the pats defense do that in last years afc title game? oh yeah, they did.....so did they "bail out" brady that game? apparently they did by your awful logic. and in the super bowl, they had no choice but to let the giants score because the giants were trying to run the clock down more to give the pats offense no shot. its just mindblowing that you fools continue to back the offense when they have been the problem in the playoffs for awhile now.

     

     



    Yes in the last two Super Bowls the Pats had the lead and all the defense had to do was make ONE stop and they couldn't......but thats Brady's fault.  Talk about mindblowing.

     



    in the 2007 super bowl, ill give you that the pats made a play at the end to take the lead. but that was still only their second td ALL GAME....tyree made one heck of a catch and the rest is history. as far as last years super bowl, there is no defending the offense. they had 17 points by the end of the 3rd quarter, and then never scored again. if anything, the defense was keeping the pats in the game by forcing the giants into settling for field goals. and as ive said on another thread, the throw eli made to manningham was one of the best throws in super bowl history. moore and chung were there, the pass was just undefendable....you know, sort of like the offense.

     
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    You can't take one sample and use it to generalize and label. Have offenses been much more efficient in the past 6-7 years, especially the past 2-3? Yes. Rule changes probably have had some effect, but a lot of it is that quarterbacks are getting better and better, offenses are evolving, and execution is at a much higher level.

    While I would agree that scoring a lot of points helps your chances to win, it'd be silly to entirely dismiss defense altogether, and simply say it's an 'offensive era'. As evidenced in the AFCCG, playing solid defense (or not, for that matter) can have a huge effect on the outcome of the game. Baltimore played incredibly good defense, and our offense sputtered. To put full blame on Brady and the offense, and completely disregard the fact that the Ravens were actually fielding a defense is a bit short-sited in my opinion. But that's neither here nor there.

    Back to the topic... are offenses performing better as of late? Yes. But that doesn't mean that defense is irrelevant or completely useless when building a winning football team. 

     



    I am not dissmissing D, I am saying the league has changed.  I have been attacked on this board for literally 3 years for saying it, simply pointing to a weak offense of our own in the postseason as to why we're losing SBs.

     

    Meanwhile, a small group have run around here making excuses for our own offense's failures, which actually have been the root cause of the playoff losses, not the D.

    The Ravens won because Flacco>Kaepernick.  Brady has always been WORSE than the other QB in each of our bad playoff losses.  The Washers here were quick to see our own D was so abysmal and be referencing points allowed, etc, even if our own QB or offense would turn it over, sometimes multiple times.

    As you can see, when SF turned it over last night, multiple times, it affected their own D.

    Not so fantastic with a bad offense for an entire half and turnovers, huh? Imagine if our D gave up 21 points in the first half in a SB?

    The Washers would have BB strung up here, thread after thread.

     

     




    Did you watch the game?

     

    Despite all the offensive play, it was a 13 possession game not an 8 possession game,

    which generally means more scoring.

    I don't care for either QB but they did play well.

    Still, it DID come down to one final defensive stop by an old, tired, and injured RAVENS DEFENSE, to win that game.

    Without that one goal line stand, all Flacco's and his offenses efforts (((((while holding on to a slim lead))))))) would have failed.  Sound familiar?

    Too bad the Pats didn't have such a D in 06, 07, 10, 11, 12.

    Defense wins championships!

     




    no, it doesnt sound familiar.....if brady played as well as flacco did in that game in the playoffs of recent memory, the pats would have 5, maybe even 6 rings right now. he hasnt, so they dont.

     

     




    Really, would Balty have won if while holding on to a slim lead, their D didn't make a goal line stand?  Doubtful.  How about zero ints or TO's?  Or their scoring contribution from ST's?

     

    Did the Pats D make a goal line stand?  Nope!  Did they get any turn overs?  Nope how about a 108yrd run back?  Nope.

    Without those, Flacco would have lost.

    Without those, the Pats did lose.

    Learn the game

     




    wel since im called a "rusty clone"....i guess you are the new "babe clone". enough with this learn the game crap, because you dont know it one damn bit. you think im happy with the special teams play?? absolutely not, ive been saying mccourty is awful back there and he has no idea what he is doing back there. plus you dont know that baltimore couldnt have won if they didnt stop the niners there...flacco would have nearly two minutes to get in field goal range to either tie or win the game.....if i remember correctly, brady did that twice....way back when he didnt p.iss his pants in the big playoff games.

     

     




    I know nothing??? BWAHAAA

     

    Brady had the lead in 2 low scoring low possession games.  The D failed to make a stop with seconds left with a narrow lead. 

    Last nights higher scoring 13 possession game (5 more scoring opportunities) came down to 1 stop with seconds left.

    Balt made the stop and the Pats didn't,  Case closed!




    oh, so its ok that the pats didnt score as much because they had less possessions....you ever think that maybe they were holding on to the ball for a long time and then coming up empty? they were moving the ball down the field with ease, similar to the ravens game, they just couldnt cash in once they got into the red area. in the baltimore game, they went 1 for 6 in the red zone.....1 for 6!

     
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    Re: Remember When People Raved About SF and Balt's D?

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    To funny Rusty.  This game was EXACTLY like the Pats recent playoff failures.  Offense starts out fast and then fades in the second half BUT they still have a lead.  All they need is that ONE defensive stand by the D.   Balt got it and won the Super Bowl, NE did not and they lost 2 Super Bowls.

    Can you imagine if the Pats only scored 6 points (2 FG) the whole second half of the Super Bowl???  You would be all over them.  Difference here is the Balt D saved Flacco's butt.  To bad NE D coudlnt make one stop when it really mattered....

     

     



    yea the ravens really saved flacco by allowing 23 points in the second half.....they made a goalline stop by having their cornerbacks hold the 9ers receivers in the end zone, yea real impressive.....oh and btw, if you want to talk about goalline stands, didnt the pats defense do that in last years afc title game? oh yeah, they did.....so did they "bail out" brady that game? apparently they did by your awful logic. and in the super bowl, they had no choice but to let the giants score because the giants were trying to run the clock down more to give the pats offense no shot. its just mindblowing that you fools continue to back the offense when they have been the problem in the playoffs for awhile now.

     

     



    It's fascinating, isn't it? They're so madly in love with Brady, they think 14, 13 or 17 points in postseason games is plenty of points in this day and age.

     

    They apparently cheer for FGs and lack of red zone execution, too. lol

     

     



    theres a difference between being a brady fan and being brainwashed. im a huge brady fan, i think hes top 3 all time and may retire as the G.O.A.T. but im not going to act like he hasnt fallen off a bit. 13 points in a home afc championship game speaks for itself.

     




    The only thing your words speak for themselves is that you need to.... Learn the game.

    Flacco or anybody else is not going to do a lot more than Brady did with receivers dropping key balls and failing to get separation the whole game. It's not like a Welker is going to jump and outmuscle anybody for the ball like a Boldin. Face the facts. Without a healthy Gronk the Pats' receivers corps is hard pressed to shine against an aggressive defense.

     
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    Re: Remember When People Raved About SF and Balt's D?

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    LOL

    As you can see, it's an offensive QB era, with offenses winning championships.  Besides what appeared to be offciaiting heavily favoring Baltimore at every turn, replete with false starts, ref pushing, grabbing and holding SF receivers, offense is still the way to a SB.

    All we hear is how great SF and Balt's Ds are, but note how quiet the Washers are now.

    The D battling and waiting around for a FG, a TD, anything in last year's SB as NE's held to 13 points is all on our offense, not our defense.

     



    remember  who told us the Ravens would never win because it was all about "Ray Ray" and that Jim Harbaugh's "big ego" in removing Smith for Kaepernick just killed the 49ers season?

    idiot.

     
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    Re: Remember When People Raved About SF and Balt's D?

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    . and as ive said on another thread, the throw eli made to manningham was one of the best throws in super bowl history. moore and chung were there, the pass was just undefendable.



    It's true that it was a great throw and catch and that the pass itself was undefendable once Manningham got to the spot, but if Moore hadn't missed his jam at the LoS it probably doesn't get done.  I think that part of the play is glossed over too much when talking about that game.  Just an observation.  Not really relevant to the thread, but whatever.

     
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    Re: Remember When People Raved About SF and Balt's D?

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    im telling ya rusty, people are morons. last night said it all...its an offensive league, and ours has choked in the playoffs.

     




    Nice self description Rusty Clone.

     

     



    saw this one coming a mile away. nice rebuttle babe, as always...

     

     




    What's to rebut? Your spewing nonsense with no factual bakup Rusty Clone?

     

     




    factual backup?????????? the super bowl was a match-up of two of the best, most physical defenses in the league and it ended in a 34-31 score!! and you have been on here blaming the pats defense while our offense could only score 13 damn points!! the 9ers had 6 points at halftime and still found a way to score 29 points!

     

     



    You and your clone brother Rusty are trying to define the "state of the NFL" by one game Rusty Clone. We are sorry to inform you that this makes you two the morons you claim the rest of us are. LMAO@U2

     

    Get it right cloneboy. I haven't exclusively blamed the D for the Ravens' loss. I've blamed poor running, poor blocking, receivers failing to get open, dropped passes and poor defense for the loss. I'm certainly not going to give Brady a gold star for the game but when you're the only guy on the team doing much of anything well it's not fair to group you in with the rest of the terrible performers.

     




    by one game? obviously you didnt watch many of the playoff games this year....just because the pats offense wasnt scoring alot, doesnt mean that other offenses were struggling. the games were ending in scores like 34-31, 38-35, 28-24, 45-24...etc. so i guess all the defenses this year sucked right?

     
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    Re: Remember When People Raved About SF and Balt's D?

    In response to RockScully's comment:

    LOL

    As you can see, it's an offensive QB era, with offenses winning championships.  Besides what appeared to be offciaiting heavily favoring Baltimore at every turn, replete with false starts, ref pushing, grabbing and holding SF receivers, offense is still the way to a SB.

    All we hear is how great SF and Balt's Ds are, but note how quiet the Washers are now.

    The D battling and waiting around for a FG, a TD, anything in last year's SB as NE's held to 13 points is all on our offense, not our defense.

     



    yeah the officiating "heavily favored" Baltimore-just like all those "phantom" calls that go against the Pats...hey, I thought the officiating was always "heavily favored" towards whatever opponent the Pats were playing, as per an edict from Roger Goodell?

     

    jeez Queenie ur confusing me!

     
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