RIP NELSON MANDELA..is OBAMA the new MANDELA?

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    Two morons posting back to back. The first moron comes in with a blatantly racist statement because if Obama wasn't black, he'd never make the inference.

    Next, we have Babe who just called Mandeal a terrorist. One of the world's greatest leaders of principle and a guy with incredible intestinal fortitude,  is somehow a "terrorist"?

    You said you attended college, right, Babe?  May I ask where you went to college? Was David Duke your professor by chance?

    RIP Nelson Mandela. He helped change the world for the better.



    Have to completely agree with you on all points...

    Mandela was no terrorist...he was a victim of a supremely terrorist-reactionary state...there is no genuine and knowledgable source who says otherwise unless they are a member of the KKK or American Nazi Bund...not even that bastion of right wing hate known as Fox Noise Network thinks he was a terrorist. Mind numbing blindness to what happens in the real world...

    Mandela was a leader in bringing divergent and devided peoples together. In South Africa he used sports to bind generations old wounds. His is and will always be a legacy of peace and love, of brotherhood and forgiveness.

     




    Comrade Melly, we often have commmon ground but ur wrong on this and owe me an apology. i will hold my breath til you acquiesce. there's a difference b/being racist and racialist? UNFORTUNATELY, THERE AINT MANY WHITE GUYS WHO HAD TO FIGHT FOR THEIR FREeDOM IN THE LASt 500 years esp from other races.. got that? its a coincidence of fate or race if u will.. is there a white mandela? is there a white guy in our lifetimes who had to fight another race or pigment to get out of their lands or to give them their basic human dignity or rights?



    Lots of white people fought lots of other white people for independence, liberty, freedom and from a different form of slavery called taxation. Want to guess who those white people who won were? Let me give you a hint...you wouldn't be posting here with your crazy stuff if they lost. 



    You're saying that freedom of speech would not exist had we remained part of the United Kingdom?  The last I heard, the UK was a pretty free place.  In fact, in some ways, speech is freer there than here.



    You heard wrong.  One of the things that's been pushed throughout Europe (successfully) and is being pushed everywhere by the UN is blasphemy laws.  In much of Europe to include England you can be prosecuted for "racism" or inciting hate.  This is of course defined however its convenient.  This is not freedom of speech, it allows the government to control what can be said by people.  While people may think its great to be able to punish people like the KKK for speech they dislike there is a real problem giving the government the power to decide what speech is "hateful".  How would the NAZI's define hate speech- anything that criticized them, same with Stalin, etc.  Free speech with exceptions is not free speech.  By its very nature, speech that needs to be protected is the unpopular speech.  Only protecting speech you agree with is just nonsense.

     
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    ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME????????

    Barry The Liar is already treated as a Messiah. Being the "next" anyone would be a step DOWN.

    Let Mandella just slip away into history in peace.

     
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    You may know football, but you don't understand politics and history.

    When a new party is created and kicks to the right of the religious right/extremist and cuckoo modern day Republican Party, that's pretty scary stuff.  That's into Nazi Land.  

    If Hitler had succeeded and had a son or sons, the Tea Party would be in line with the Hitlers and Germany/Europe and Europe would be miserable.

    I don't want exclusionists and bible thumpers determining policy in a free country. It's that simple.

    I also don't want people who lack education and common sense dictating policy.  You can always tell who is full of crap when they repeat rhetoric over and over because they want to sound intelligent.

    That's the redneck at Walmart. That's the bible thumper.  That's the angry old white man.   These people are easily manipulated, can't think for themselves and/or brainwashed. They all like the Tear Party and/or race out and vote for Michelle Bachmann or Sara Palin because they never read a book before.

    Not good.

     

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    Well if you believe all of that is true  there is nothing to be said.

    But Please on the Hitler associations, you are way out of bounds? You just are. Hitler was a Totalitarian /Socialist who told everyone what they could do, or die. Tea Party isnt that ,no matter what John Stewart or Racheal Madow or even the NYTs says.

    And  the tea party isnt really a party - the candidates who run on being a tea party member as social conservatives do not speak for anyone I know. Its easy to demonize a group with no leaders. And to sexually demonize people by those calling them names and not debating the issue of fiscal sanity is elitist and narcisstic

    I went to 2010 tea party events, and many of my friends and family did too. If you saw        my family and my siblings families it would look like the United Nations. We are all college educated from well known and some of the elite univerisites. We all believe in God but  believe it is a personal choice and others can believe what they wish

    What you should really worry about is that the current Dems in power and in the press have severely damaged the "liberal" brand. Commuinsts, Socialists, Progressives or what ever they want to call themselves are delusional. (listen to Pelosi for one). they have used Alynski tactics to demonize honest people.

    If I only go back as far as JFK. He was conservative on fiscal policy, anti communisit policy, abortion, but liberal on race and in the bag for unions. To the point, he was liberal in some of the best ways. It is sadly not what we have today in the Democrat Party.

    I loved WFB but have grown even more in tune with Richard A Epstein. He is easily found on the net and you can see him debate. If you believe some ohole in the governmet knows what they are doing and how to do anything- I couldnt disagree more.

     
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    Mandela was considered by many a terrorist. He certainly was no Ghandi or MLK. Obama could well be the new Mandela.



    Obama is not a terrorist. He's more like a used car salesman with expensive suits and flawless teleprompters..a televangelist like the one from Fletch Lives, except lee ermey is smarter and better looking.




    Terrorist is a debatable term. But he owns the word liar.

     
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    When do we get the opportuinity to purchase the "forever" Mendella postage stamp?

     
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    Next, we have Babe who just called Mandeal a terrorist. One of the world's greatest leaders of principle and a guy with incredible intestinal fortitude,  is somehow a "terrorist"?

     



    You are consistently the moron in all things. Mandela was part and parcel of terrorist bombings. This isn't disputed. Because the cause was just doesn't excuse the tactics dum bass. You are insufferably stupid.





    What Mandella is remembered for is admirable. what some of the things he was a part of, well , no so much. His party was a communist party and he got his money from the soviets. If that was his only means to and end I will let it go

    But what people will remember for - for freedonm and liberty are good things. I am just going to remember that and move on.

     
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    Social Security was one of the more brilliant plans ever.



    You are so f'n dumb it's painful. SS was the work of imbeciles, because of the "pay as you go" structure. That was asking for a catastrophe and benefited certain persons at the time at the expense of future generations.

     

     
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    South Africa labeled him as a terrorist…hmmm…well…we were terrorists to the British in Lexington on April 19, 1775 I suppose.



    Really? Were the "minute men" blowing up civilian buildings like Mandela?

     

     
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    How about a newly minted Mandella Silver Dollar?

    Statue in NY harbor?

    His face up on Mt Rushmore?

    Let him go........

     
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    Social Security was one of the more brilliant plans ever.



    You are so f'n dumb it's painful. SS was the work of imbeciles, because of the "pay as you go" structure. That was asking for a catastrophe and benefited certain persons at the time at the expense of future generations.

     



    it was dumb in the way that they never adjusted it to the changing demographics and the added all sorts of unpaid disability provisions.
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    Mandela was considered by many a terrorist. He certainly was no Ghandi or MLK. Obama could well be the new Mandela.




    You sound more boneheaded than ever. He was a political prisoner. He was labeled a terrorist by the white SA's who were worried they were losing there country. He thought that armed conflict was unavoidable but before he was arrested he only took part in civil disobence. Until Obama spends 30 years in prison for demanding equal rights there is no comparison.




    Read your history meatball, instead of sucking the balls of the biased and lying media with the lib agenda. He was deeply involved in the plethora of bombings in SA and stated if that didn't work terrorism and guerrilla warfare were next.

    The fact is the outside sanctions ended apartheid, not Mandela's terror.

    As far as Obama, his promises to end the wars in matter of months was obviously a lie, as was his vow to end the Patriot Act and have a transparent presidency. The list goes on and on and on, while the body count goes up and up and up.

    Back on ignore you go, with the rest of those designated worthless.

     



    I have a degree in history and have never voted for Obama. You clearly don't know what you are talking about and listen to people you agree with. Put me and everyone else on ignoew that would make this place a lot more enjoyable for you.

     
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    The Tea Party is clearly one step away from the Nazi Party.   Each was an extremist movement.



    Seriously, get f'n help. You are a psychotic looney bird.

     

     
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    Mandela was no terrorist...he was a victim of a supremely terrorist-reactionary state...there is no genuine and knowledgable source who says otherwise unless they are a member of the KKK or American Nazi Bund...

     



    Really Rusty?

    Margaret Thatcher described his African National Congress as a “typical terrorist organization. Was she Nazi or KKK?

    His being on the US terror watch list until 2008 was a product of the Nazis and KKK?

    At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.

     

    Revisionist liberal NONSENSE!



    You realize that the white South African government was puppet for the crown right? Only maintaining the hint of indepdence.  So you are pro European Imperial colonization? That kind of flew the coop in the 60's. You make W look like FDR you are so far too the right.

     
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    How about a newly minted Mandella Silver Dollar?

    Statue in NY harbor?

    His face up on Mt Rushmore?

    Let him go........



    You can't give pause to a historical figure?

     
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    South Africa labeled him as a terrorist…hmmm…well…we were terrorists to the British in Lexington on April 19, 1775 I suppose.



    Really? Were the "minute men" blowing up civilian buildings like Mandela?

     



    Didn't we drop atomic bombs on two Japanese cities full of civilians?

    Oh wait, when we killed civilians it was for a higher purpose . . . 

    The ANC only did it to free a bunch of black people . . . 

    And besides all those civilians we killed weren't really civilians, you know, being Asian and all . . .

     

     
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    RIH: Obama,Deadhead and all those of the same ilk

     
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    I'd say we are in off topic hell except I love Rusty's off-topic stuff! So nice to hear you say smart and informed things that don't involve bashing a certain hall of famer....

    "John McCain is moritified.  I would be too, if I was a Republican. It's why I registered as an Independent.  It's so I can avoid looking like  buffoon defending a party that goes off the rails. It happens.   Then the spectrum adjusts and shifts, sometimes a lot.  

    Teddy Roosevelt's Republican Party is long gone.  " BINGO DUDE

     
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