posted at 8/10/2011 2:26 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Roth
In Response to Re: Roth : I didn't give up, merely went to go do something with the kiddos. Then again, you do have a habit of saying and seeing things that aren't true. Your responses are mostly opportunities to get in a dig with Rusty or Tex or Brady or BB and the Pats as a whole. (trolling) Thanks for bring attention your thread response. Having 2100+ posts on another teams forum in less than a year is quite odd and only solidifies my impression of you. In responses to your deflected statements. I do not believe Dung knew nothing about taping teams especially since it's legal. Therefore I think he is a liar. I also do not believe Dung didn't know about or condone any thing his expert signal stealer was doing, to include taping. He was the head coach and is responsible for what is happening outside of the lines too. Why have a safe cracker on the payrol if you never plan on cracking safes. He knew exactly what was going on, if not, he's the only HC in the World that didn't. As far as Rusty goes, LOL. He does not need my help. His does a fine job of slapping you around all by his lonesome. And if you didn't appreciate me calling you out for being a troll, well all I can say is, don't act like one. I'm sure I'm not the first or last to do so. I call it as I see it!
Posted by pezz4pats
Rusty, Tex, and BB, yes I give them sh*t. Not really Brady, because I happen to think he is a great QB-top 2 in the league with very little, if anything, separating the two. I may bust on a stetson ad or an Uggs ad, but that's all in fun. No different than those who make fun of Manning's ads or people who might call Dungy, Dung.
As for the pats, I only bust on them as it relates to Belichick. Kraft has demonstrated he is a great owner who knows when to step in and when to step aside.
Now back to our old discussion. As it regards Dungy we are not simply talking about taping (all teams tape the game). We are talking about teams specifically using a cameraman on the field to tape opposing coaches signals. Are you saying Dungy was lying when he said he knew nothing about it?
As it regards Dungy and Mudd - First, we know that certain methods of stealing signals are legal. The method employed by the pats was not. The Pats had a chance to refrain from their method after a likely warning (due to being caught by the pack) and a memo. They chose not to heed the warnings, and were dealt with. Being good at deciphering signals vs. authorizing illicit methods for obtaining them are two monumentally different things. As I said before, if Weis, Crennel, McDaniel, and Mangini were not punished for being assistants during the illicit taping period, then why would you have a problem with Mudd?
further, as Dungy said, he knew nothing about the taping. If he didn't know about it, then how would he know about Mudd having done it many many years before he was with the colts. And if they were not employing the illicit Patriots methods themselves, then why would Dungy have any problem having Mudd on his staff. Mudd is known as one of the best oline coaches in all of football. That's the reason for having him on staff.
Finally, as to your impression of me, why should I care? You may call me whatever you like. Its a free world. I just want to make sure you don't somehow regard yourself as better than me when you do things like call Dungy, Dung. That's not really appropriate behavior for one attempting to claim some kind of high ground. Know what I mean?