running quarterbacks

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    running quarterbacks

    a lot of teams are turning to these fast qb.s, what kind of speed do we need on defense to stop them?

     
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    the kind to stop Kapernick

     
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    The kind to knock them silly when they run, so they think twice about it next time. Or they're unable to continue. Or their careers end prematurely. That kind.

     
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    yeah, too bad we don't have many of those?  Spikes is the hardest hitter, but half the time, he chooses the wrong gap to jump. I guess if someone else has his back, it doesn't matter, but if not....

     
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    You need speed but that alone does not stop a guy like him. Watch how Suggs played him in the SB. Agressive... AGRESSIVE... and hard, physical.

    I expect BB D's to play smart but they have not been anywhere near aggressive enough.

     
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    Truthfully most quarterbacks aren't going to make it in the NFL...I don't care if you're a runner, passer, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, franchise player...there's a very good chance you will turn into nothing more than average and cost your team millions. It's hard to play quarterback in the NFL...teams figure you out...you lose good players around you that make you look good.

    I think out of all these young quarterbacks RG3 has the natural ability to be a great passer - unfortunately his coach had him running and will probably ruin his career..that kid doesn't have to run. Kaepernick is a different story all together, I think he needs to run to set up the pass...he'll probably do good for a couple of season, but then the wheels will fall off.

     
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    Remains to be seen but i's plausible that this new batch of running QBs are different and will have more success than Vick or Tebow. RG3, Kaep, Wilson can all throw the ball well - much better than Vick or Tebow. Even Luck, who obviously is a good passing QB can run pretty well. If coached well, they can set up Ds so they have to respect their arms first, making them vulnerable to the run. They may have shorter careers in the end, but if any of those running QBs win a SB soon, or at least consistenly get deep in the playoffs, does it matter? 

     
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    QBs who can run are great and all, but there's a fine line. You run too often and you don't last. Or you learn and change. See Cunningham, Randall.

    Steve Young is in the Hall of Fame, but he didn't last that long. He threw 4,100 passes in his career, Brady is a tick under 6,000 and counting. Manning is gaining on 8,000.

    On the other hand, if they complete the change to flag football in the next few years, then those guys may play until they're 50.

     
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    In response to alfred-e-bob-neumier's comment:

    The Pats demonstrated what to do two years ago in the playoffs against the Bronco's...have one guy on the D do nothing but decimate the QB's face on every play, NO MATTER WHAT! Tebow had a few too many "come to JeS@S " moments with Ninkovich during that game...sooner or later a smaller QB will get worn down or injured being layed out by a 260-275 lb. LB on every play...it's why a running QB just will not ever last in the NFL...the front 7 defenders are two big and two fast...ask Vick how he and his legs are doing these days...or RG III for that matter...the kid in Seattle will be next.




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    In response to alfred-e-bob-neumier's comment:

    The Pats demonstrated what to do two years ago in the playoffs against the Bronco's...have one guy on the D do nothing but decimate the QB's face on every play, NO MATTER WHAT! Tebow had a few too many "come to JeS@S " moments with Ninkovich during that game...sooner or later a smaller QB will get worn down or injured being layed out by a 260-275 lb. LB on every play...it's why a running QB just will not ever last in the NFL...the front 7 defenders are two big and two fast...ask Vick how he and his legs are doing these days...or RG III for that matter...the kid in Seattle will be next.



    difference is that Tebow can't throw for s$%#.

    Chicago game, Bears forced Kaepernick to beat them with his arm...and he did.

    Same thing with the Pats game.

     

    Running QBs will never last. QBs who have the ability to run will...Just look at Rodgers

     
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    In response to Muzwell's comment:

    QBs who can run are great and all, but there's a fine line. You run too often and you don't last. Or you learn and change. See Cunningham, Randall.

    Steve Young is in the Hall of Fame, but he didn't last that long. He threw 4,100 passes in his career, Brady is a tick under 6,000 and counting. Manning is gaining on 8,000.

    On the other hand, if they complete the change to flag football in the next few years, then those guys may play until they're 50.



    Outside of 1 season, Steve Young didn't really get a chance to start until he was 30...bad example

     
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    In response to RidingWithTheKing's comment:

     

    In response to alfred-e-bob-neumier's comment:

     

    The Pats demonstrated what to do two years ago in the playoffs against the Bronco's...have one guy on the D do nothing but decimate the QB's face on every play, NO MATTER WHAT! Tebow had a few too many "come to JeS@S " moments with Ninkovich during that game...sooner or later a smaller QB will get worn down or injured being layed out by a 260-275 lb. LB on every play...it's why a running QB just will not ever last in the NFL...the front 7 defenders are two big and two fast...ask Vick how he and his legs are doing these days...or RG III for that matter...the kid in Seattle will be next.

     



    ^^This is it, folks.

     

    The hype over ol' Collie Kaepernick and RG3 will soon wear off.   

     

     

    Think RGIII has already...do you think he will ever be the same after last seasons knee injuries?

    Kaepernick and Wilson are different in that they are very selective about running. Also Kaps 49er offense has enough weapons that it is really hard to dedicate a LB to the QB. Really gives them an advantage on other matchups.

    It might be a few seasons before these guys slow down from being hit a few times. But once you hobble the QB a bit the entire running advantage disapears. Do I sound like I am hoping? well maybe, but I don't want them to end their careers, just maybe get knocked around enough to be as slow as Brady.

     
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    QBs who can run are great and all, but there's a fine line. You run too often and you don't last. Or you learn and change. See Cunningham, Randall.

    Steve Young is in the Hall of Fame, but he didn't last that long. He threw 4,100 passes in his career, Brady is a tick under 6,000 and counting. Manning is gaining on 8,000.

    On the other hand, if they complete the change to flag football in the next few years, then those guys may play until they're 50.

     



    Outside of 1 season, Steve Young didn't really get a chance to start until he was 30...bad example

     

     



    Bad example, say what? Actually Young is a poster child for exactly what we're talking about, which is the durability of running QBs. He retired because his body was shot and he'd had numerous concussions.  He played three full seasons in his entire career because he used to take such a beating.

    You're a good example of someone who should read more carefully.

     
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    Young did not last long because he sat behind a guy named Joe for a few years before he was on the field . . . if Drew had not been hurt then Brady may not have 6,000 passes as he would have been on the bench for another two or three years. 

    These young "running" QBs have one thing different from the guys like Vick and Cunningham . . . these new guys can flat out throw the ball.  I think they will run less and less to protect themselves and the teams will want them protected to last the season.   The running QB certainly adds another option to the offense and if Tom could have run a few times we would have won that Baltimore game.  Still I'd rather have Tom back there than any other QB in football right now . . . two, three years from now it may be a different story and that is why we have to go balls-to-the-wall to win it all in the next few years.

     
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    In response to tenace4life's comment:

    Young did not last long because he sat behind a guy named Joe for a few years before he was on the field . . . if Drew had not been hurt then Brady may not have 6,000 passes as he would have been on the bench for another two or three years. 

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    Sorry, your logic escapes me?  So, if Young started for the 49ers earlier he wouldn't have  suffered all those concussions and other injuries? Is that what you're saying?

    If he started sooner, his career would have been over when he was 30 instead of 37. He still would have been beat up and he'd still have PTSD.  He drew a paycheck until he was 37 precisely BECAUSE he sat behind Montana all those years. That extended his career, it didn't cause it to end early.

    Think before you write.

     
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    Golly... people sure are a bit snarky today.

    Did the sequester thread get everyone worked up?

     
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