Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams

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      [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : For your quickness to make condescending comments about my political motivations in posting this, I still haven't heard one decent response on what could have possibly motivated Rush Limbaugh to make his McNabb comment OTHER than race.  I'll tell you this much - it certainly wasn't quality of play and statistics prove it.  So what he essentially said was that McNabb got an unfair advantage because he was black. That's racist. While Richie_az was quick to note that Limbaugh transcripts were unavailable to non-members, I'm sure someone has posted good portions of the transcripts in question somewhere (although if I refer to personal sites, I'll be certain to include one site defending him and one site attacking him so that it's possible to confirm whether or not the transcripts were conveniently altered by either side). And I'd love to be Republican if people like Limbaugh and Gingrich didn't demand that everyone comply with their extreme conservative views.  I'm all for free markets, but so help me God I'd like to think we can have them without a pseudo-religious state.
      Posted by NickC1188[/QUOTE]

      "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL.The media has been very desirous that a black QB do well.They're interested in black coaches and black coaches doing well...McNabb got a lot of credit for the performance of a team that he really didn't deserve." Rush  
    • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/peter_king/09/30/mcnabb_limbaugh/ 
    • His comments about McNabb are just plain ignorant.McNabb ranks near the top annually among QB's regardless of ethnicity and he has received his fair share of credit as well as blame concerning his team's successes and failures,but he has a point about the media coverage of African-American successes as NFL coaches.Dungy himself states "I'm proud to represent African-American coaches in the NFL". When Dungy and Lovie Smith brought their teams to the Superbowl,the media was quick to point out their race.Nothing wrong with it,and they earned their right to be there, but the media was quite pleased to incorporate race into the stories of both of these highly respected coaches.
     
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    I like the criticism that someone is a "polarizing" figure.  The president of the united states is a "polarizing" figure, does that disqualify him from that job?

     
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    [QUOTE]I like the criticism that someone is a "polarizing" figure.  The president of the united states is a "polarizing" figure, does that disqualify him from that job?
    Posted by tojo[/QUOTE]

    Everytime that fat-arsed drug addict opens his mouth he deliberately disparages someone.  He constantly sets out to impugn others, to polarize.  He roots openly for the president to fail.  That is polarizing.  When is the last time President Obama attacked someone?  Does he root openly for that drug-addled gasbag to fail?  (Clearly I don't have the president's patience and forbearance.) 
     
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    "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

    Rush Limbaugh does not want President Obama to fail. However, he does openly hope that the policies President Obama wants to institute do fail. President Obama's policies are socialist and are designed to create a soft tyranny. That stands in stark contrast to the history of this country, the Constitution of the United States and the beliefs of the Founding Fathers. Anyone who believes in freedom should hope that President Obama is not successful in implementing his desired policies.

    "But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent as radical as people tried to characterize the Warren court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can’t do to you, it says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn’t shifted.
    "I think it is an imperfect document, and I think it is a document that reflects some deep flaws in American culture."
    - Barack Obama
     
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    [QUOTE]"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin Rush Limbaugh does not want President Obama to fail. However, he does openly hope that the policies President Obama wants to institute do fail. President Obama's policies are socialist and are designed to create a soft tyranny. That stands in stark contrast to the history of this country, the Constitution of the United States and the beliefs of the Founding Fathers. Anyone who believes in freedom should hope that President Obama is not successful in implementing his desired policies. "But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent as radical as people tried to characterize the Warren court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can’t do to you, it says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn’t shifted. "I think it is an imperfect document, and I think it is a document that reflects some deep flaws in American culture." - Barack Obama
    Posted by Ritchie_az[/QUOTE]

    So let me get this straight.  We can't allow the socialist Obama to get his way, whatever he is up to that can be characterized as socialist or softly tyrannical.  We need to uphold the high ideals of the Constitution and the founding fathers, who thought that women and men with no property should not be allowed to exercise political authority or even vote and who believed that millions of their fellow human beings should exist in a state of slavery. These are the ideals we should try to adhere to? 
     
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    newenglanderinexile,
    it is the principals of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers that have given you freedom, the prosperity you enjoy, and the opportunities your children and grandchildren have.
    Tyrannies are a dime a dozen. Countries like The United States of America are rare in history.
    Do you agree with the statement made by Barack Obama quoted in my previous post?

    "who believed that millions of their fellow human beings should exist in a state of slavery."

    When Lincoln freed the slaves it was a revolutionary concept. Slavery was excepted worldwide, and had been so since the dawn of man. The U.S. changed the way countries looked at slavery. If not for America, slavery would still be common to this day. However, that precedent wasn't set until 1863 (when President Lincoln freed the slaves). So while slavery wasn't right, it is important to understand the background in order to have the proper perspective. 
    The fact that half of the country outlawed slavery from the get go says a lot. And the fact that the United States outlawed slavery altogether less than 100 years later says even more. And the impact those events had across the world says the most.
     
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    In Response to Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : Spoken like a true-blue bigoted airhead liberal. I doubt if you actually ever listened to the guy. 
    Posted by unclealfie


     I have listened to him for 20 years off and on. Rush is a virus. He is a hypocrite, he is a racist, and an overweight bigot.

    IMO, he and others like him help put Clinton, and now Obamma in the White House. The putrid hate that comes out of his mouth makes many moderates embarrased to be associated with the Republican party due to guilt by association. If being in favor of lower taxes, smaller govt., reduce the status of being a welfare state... means being assocated with Rush and company many people would rather sit on the other side of the isle just to get away from the stink.

    To call him a polarizing force is being kind.

    Rush would be horrible for the NFL.

    I can't believe anyone would think he would be "good" for the NFL.
     
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    If these knuckleheads believe in the redistribution of the wealth of the nation,then they can march their little socialist azzes down to the soup kitchen on pay-day and divide up their hard earned money amongst the "less fortunate".They don't need the government to take their pay via taxes and do it for them.Personally,I like keeping what I've earned.

     
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    [QUOTE]newenglanderinexile, it is the principals of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers that have given you freedom, the prosperity you enjoy, and the opportunities your children and grandchildren have. Tyrannies are a dime a dozen. Countries like The United States of America are rare in history. Do you agree with the statement made by Barack Obama quoted in my previous post? "who believed that millions of their fellow human beings should exist in a state of slavery." When Lincoln freed the slaves it was a revolutionary concept. Slavery was excepted worldwide, and had been so since the dawn of man. The U.S. changed the way countries looked at slavery. If not for America, slavery would still be common to this day. However, that precedent wasn't set until 1863 (when President Lincoln freed the slaves). So while slavery wasn't right, it is important to understand the background in order to have the proper perspective.  The fact that half of the country outlawed slavery from the get go says a lot. And the fact that the United States outlawed slavery altogether less than 100 years later says even more. And the impact those events had across the world says the most.
    Posted by Ritchie_az[/QUOTE]

    Where did you learn about history?  The United States was one of the last countries in the world to abolish slavery.  Most of Latin America had done it thirty years previously. 
     
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    [QUOTE]If these knuckleheads believe in the redistribution of the wealth of the nation,then they can march their little socialist azzes down to the soup kitchen on pay-day and divide up their hard earned money amongst the "less fortunate".They don't need the government to take their pay via taxes and do it for them.Personally,I like keeping what I've earned.
    Posted by cowtherabbit-[/QUOTE]

    The problem is so many people don't believe in the Democrats push to redistribute wealth, but if it means being in comapny with religious right, pigs like Rush, and the racist hypocrites that plague the republican party, they will take a pass.
     
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    I don't get it.So,because of a few bad apples,of which the Democrats have some too,you would sacrifice your freedoms and your nations future?Are not people dependent on government hand outs enslaved to that government to some extent? To control the economic resources of a nation's individuals is to enslave those individuals to that nation's leader's policies and ideologies.If people don't believe in Obama's push to redistribute America's wealth,then they know nothing about the man.A few post's up is a direct quote from Obama concerning it.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : Umm, look I am a conservative guy, and I agree with a lot of what Rush espouses.  But other then he made a comment about McNabb which I think was taken out of context which is what happens to people as polarizing as he is I do not recall any racist remarks and I listen to him all the time. I am not about to say I "know" him but I did meet him at a political rally a few years ago and he came across as a great guy... and someone who would be a blast to sit have a beer and watch a game with.   As is the cause of many in the Secular Progressive movement the modus operendi is to attack someone they disagree with and even slander them if it serves their purpose. I just would ask for proof, I know unreasonable isn't it!?  
    Posted by DaBlade[/QUOTE]

    Limbaugh's racism has nothing to do with whether he is a conservative or not - he is clearly a racist.
     
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    [QUOTE]You're pretty quick to throw out the "racist" card here.  I think you're the racist, NickC.  Conservative ideals make nothing of race.  The thought process is: You work the hardest, you do the best, you get the job.  This is opposed the liberal hippie B.S. train of thought that everyone should get something for nothing.  Is he racist because he believes people should have an incentive to EARN their money by working?  I'm NOT a big fan of Limbaugh (I prefer Michael Savage), but I am conservative, and if you've ever worked for anything in your life, you should understand how these things work.
    Posted by TheDave66[/QUOTE]

    Limbaugh is both a conservative and a racist. You can be one or the other or neither or both. His being racist has nothing to do with his being a conservative. 

    You bring up the politics of the guy when the person who started this did not. His issue was with Limbaugh;s beiung a racist, not a conservative. So 2 questions:
    1. Why did you try to hide Limbaugh's racism behind his politics?
    2. Are you implying that conservatives are inherently not racists? That if you area a conservative you can't be a racist? I have to assume you aren't trying to imply that. So I suppose that brings us back to the question above...

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : absurd! Think what you want about limbaughs political views but he is no racist.  Keep drinkin that obama kool aid 
    Posted by steve1581[/QUOTE]

    Limbaugh was a racist long before any of us had heard of Obama. You've been drink the kool aid pal.
     
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    newenglanderinexile,
    Many countries abolished slave trade prior to 1863, but did not free the slaves already owned in their country. Those that were slaves remained slaves, and their children were born into slavery. The U.S. did this in 1808. It wasn't until after the U.S. freed it's slaves in 1863 that other countries began doing the same. And it wasn't until 1948 that the U.N. declared slavery illegal worldwide.
    To be fair, Russia and parts of Portugal, England, and Canada (and, of course, the "northern states" in America) all abolished slavery in the 1700's.
     
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    [QUOTE]If  George W.   Bush  had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be  able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said  this is more proof of how he inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?  If   George W.  Bush  had spent hundreds of thousands of  dollars to take Laura  Bush  to a play in NYC, would you have  approved?  If   George W.  Bush  had reduced your retirement  plan's holdings of GM stock by  90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have  approved?  If   George W.   Bush  had made a joke at the expense  of the  Special Olympics, would you have  approved?  If   George W.  Bush  had given Gordon  Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when  Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful  and  historically significant gift, would you  have approved?  If   George W.  Bush  had given the Queen of England an  iPod containing videos of  his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and  tacky?  If   George W.  Bush  had bowed to the King of Saudi  Arabia , would you  have approved?  If   George W.  Bush  had visited Austria  and made  reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you   have brushed it off as a minor  slip?  If   George W.  Bush  had filled his cabinet and circle  of advisers  with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes,  would you have approved?  If  George W.  Bush  had been so Spanish illiterate as  to  refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it   was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he   tried again, would you have winced in  embarrassment?  If  George W.   Bush  had mis-spelled the word "advice" would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a dunce he is?  If  George W.   Bush  had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel  to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?  If  George W.   Bush 's administration had okayed Air  Force One flying low over millions of  people followed  by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread  panic, would you have wondered whether  they actually get what happened  on 9-11?  If  George W.   Bush  had failed to send relief aid to  flood victims throughout  the Midwest with more people killed or  made homeless than in  New Orleans ,  would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of  racism and  incompetence?  If  George W. Bush  had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America, would you have approved.   If   George W.  Bush  had ordered the firing of the CEO  of a  major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority  to  do so, would you have  approved?  If   George W  Bush   had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than  two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you  have approved?  If   George W..  Bush  had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?  So, tell  me again, what is it about Obama that makes  him so brilliant and  impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't  worry. He's done all  this in 5 months -- so you'll have three years  and seven months  to come up with an answer.
    Posted by steve1581[/QUOTE]

    Steve, the question at hand was whether a racist like Limbaugh should be an owner in the NFL. THere was nothing here about whose politics anyone likes. If you want to talk about a different topic then start your own thread. In the meantime read some of the posts which illustrate Limbaugh's over the top racism.
     
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    Urg! Rush Limbaugh is NOT a racist!! His BEST FRIEND is black! Please, look up the definition of racism and educate yourself!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : I didnt say that if you dont agree with rush you are an uneducated liberal.  My point is that ignorance is what causes people to play the race card. You have nothing meaninful to say about rush so you call him a Fat Republican Racist Pig.  Thats garbage.  I dont care if you disagree with rush if you have a reason as to why you disagree.  I dont think that everything that comes from his mouth is as good as gold, but, I am tired of hearing people hate him and say the same things when they dont know or understand what he is talking about.  You can dislike him, but have the right reasons. Come on. So far all I have heard is that he is a Racist Republican Pig. Well.....  I am not trying to stoop but the same argument could be made about Obama.  I think the race card is bs and shame on anyone who plays it these days. Dont you ever wonder why race is an issue these days. The vast majority of people are over that hurdle.  I'll tell you why it is still  an issue.... because it is big business. Without the race card you would have no naacp etc Its a real shame that organizations and people that card because it is preventing cultural growth. 
    Posted by steve1581[/QUOTE]

    Steve - once again you wander off on some unrelated direction. The issue is about his racism, not his being a conservsative. So in case you missed it here is a previous post which illustrates a small bit of Limbaugh's racist mind:

    Top 10 Racist Rush Limbaugh Quotes

    1. I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

    2. You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.

    3. Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

    4. Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.

    5. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

    6. The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.

    7. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?

    8. Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).

    9. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.  They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.  I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.

    10. Limbaugh even has repeatedly played a song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ 


     
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    Where did you get these quotes? please post the link .I don't really listen to the guy so I would like to confirm if these statements can be authenticated as real, Thanks.
     
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    [QUOTE]Urg! Rush Limbaugh is NOT a racist!! His BEST FRIEND is black ! Please, look up the definition of racism and educate yourself!
    Posted by Ritchie_az[/QUOTE]

    Who is his best friend?  I'll bet Rush would not let him marry his daughter. 
     
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    [QUOTE]and Im a conservative Who do you think has the stones in this country lol 
    Posted by steve1581[/QUOTE]

    While the topic was about Limbaugh's racism it is pretty amazing, funny and sad at the same time that you think being a conservative makes you more of a man. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : Who is his best friend?  I'll bet Rush would not let him marry his daughter. 
    Posted by newenglanderinexile[/QUOTE]
    I wouldn't let ANY of my friends marry my daughter.That just ain't right.
     
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    [QUOTE]Look besides being a conservative. I am also an iraq war veteran. I dont appreciate your comments. The war might have begun for the wrong reasons but it was not for corporate profit and the job that our men and women are doing over there is honorable. In the end, we will have made the world a better place. People like you disgust me.
    Posted by steve1581[/QUOTE]

    Being against a war started for bad reasons is in part supporting those like yourself who would put yourselves in harms way. WHen you were there would you have risked the lives of your mates for bad reasons? Of course not. Foolish question. And it is the very same reasoning, logic that makes many want to be smart about how and when and why we put brave soldiers in harms way.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : While the topic was about Limbaugh's racism it is pretty amazing, funny and sad at the same time that you think being a conservative makes you more of a man. 
    Posted by portfolio1[/QUOTE]
    Hey,where's the link to the quotes you posted. Without a link We have no way of knowing if these statements are true or created by you to support your arguement.This is a credibility issue.
     
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    [QUOTE]Again, yes the war was started under false pretenses but there are numerous good reasons for fighting this war. I have lost close friends. Don't you dare demean their sacrifice.  I was disgusted before but now I dont even know what to call it.  You are a total disgrace.
    Posted by steve1581[/QUOTE]

    That some well known people were guilty of quite a bit does not demean anyone who has served.
     
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