Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams
posted at 10/9/2009 12:08 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rush Limbaugh as (part) owner of the St. Louis Rams : Where did you learn about history? The United States was one of the last countries in the world to abolish slavery. Most of Latin America had done it thirty years previously.
Posted by newenglanderinexile[/QUOTE]
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I'm sure you learned a modicum of history, but please get it correct. Don't quote it in the smarmy knowledge and partial truths used to discredit the Lockean philosophers, Judeo-Christian civilization, and the practical implementation of it as expressed by the founders in the American Constitutional experience.
Most of Latin America today, still treats Indians, or mixed blood Indians, as Second Class Citizens, essentially slaves. There is little effort to change that either. The Russian Empire "freed" its Serfs, who were bound to the land, around the same time in the mid 1800s. Unfortunately, it took until 1989 and Communism's collapse, for it to become a reality, that its slave-serfs were able to move about freely, without internal passport restriction.
Wilbur Wilberforce and some politicians of England worked hard to free the chattel slaves even earlier in the 1800s, and succeeded with the passage of the Corn laws. But peasant serfdom was replaced with industrial serfdom, only kept barely acceptable by mass migration to a self-selected, freer, better, place in America for millions. But England continued the policy of Colonialism until after WWII that impoverished and kept impoverished, vast numbers of colonial serf-slaves. Other colonial powers were even worse.
America's Constitution was created at a time of chattel slavery all around the world. It was amended in the 1860s to eliminate "de-jure" slavery, accepted 600,000 deaths in accomplishing that act, that would be proportionate to a civil war that took 40,000,000 lives today for some perspective. That is an effort of monumental proportions, and was necessary to dismantle an economy fashioned on agricultural slavery, that provided a living for the entire South.
And in the mid 1960s "de-facto" slavery was really abolished. The first, real and genuine attempt to accomplish that in any mixed, non-homogeneous, society, of any size, in the World. In the intervening half century, black Americans have finally been able and have joined all other Americans in the melting pot, as per capita wealth, and intermarriage rates approach the norm, and assimilation has really occurred.
There are other examples of current slavery too. The slavery that the Kim family practices in North Korea that essentially treats everyone as chattel property of the Kim family's vast Plantation of North Korea is an easy example.
Chattel Slavery exists today in the Middle East. Afghanistan lives in the 7th century AD, and the Taliban were outright proud of their Sharia law and "de jure" slavery for women and others, and would re-institute it immediately in the 2010s were they to come to power, except for the efforts of the western democracies but principally America. Persia's temporary Sharian regime that enforces female slavery, can still murder millions before it collapses.
Saddam Hussein's re-incarnation of the National SOCIALIST slave empire was overthrown with the force of American arms, treasure and blood, just as the original version, that subjugated the individual to Statist serfdom, and contemptuously murdered "untermenchen" was eliminated.
It was expenditure of American arms, treasure and blood that bankrupted and overthrew the discredited economic nostrums, and statist Gulag horrors of Communism in most of the World.
Ironically, only to see it resurrected here, by a revolutionary elite, that has captured one of the American political parties, and dragged it far leftward. It has instituted a program that has divided the entire country as it attempts to discredit every American institution, virtue and success, while setting every minority against every other one else.
And please cease your political diatribe against America and its Constitution. Obama is a constitutionalist lawyer. I had not seen that speech before. He should know better, but his own statements affirm and condemn him that he is incapable of following his own sworn oath "... to protect, defend the Constitution..." .
Where did you ever learn your history?
Your politics should be tempered in the knowledge that it was Democrats who resisted Emancipation,and supported slavery. it was Democrats who subverted that Emancipation with Segregation, the American Apartheid, passing so-called "Jim Crow" Laws; it was Democrats who supported them legally and extra-legally, and resisted dismantling those laws for nearly a century, despite Republican efforts to the contrary. It was Democrats who enforced an extra-legal terror program known as the KKK; it was a bare plurality of Democrats who revolted and joined the Republicans that you so detest, to end "de-facto" second class, semi-slavery of segregated un-empowerment, in the Civil Rights and Voting act of the mid 1960s.
And perhaps worst of all it was Democrats who replaced it with a well-meaning but ultimately evil program that destroyed the Black family and Black culture that had even withstood the evils of slavery in the years after the mid 1960s. Social Pathologies of every type are now endemic in black society today, and decried by one and all, with in and without Black America, as a result.
This is far afield from the original subject under discussion. Would a wealthy commentator-entertainer make any difference to the NFL, as an owner. No, it wouldn't.