In Response to Re: Russ vs. JimmyJack and UnderRoos
By whom? By trolls? Name one Pats fan besides Tubby here who has "called me out" for lying. What is the topic and the lie? You're really, really a dumb person. How's the paper pushing coming today? Enjoying it, are we?
Posted by russgriswold
LOL. That was funny. This is what I mean. Please show me in writing that I called you a liar. I'm betting you can't find it. Because you just made up shyt.
Anyways, here's my response for your work of fiction:
Russ :We have no idea if teams filmed the Pats coaches or sidelines and you'd have to have ridden a short bus at some point to claim no team didn't.
Me: I already indicated that others taped too – so, your declaration of a “truth” is a moot point.
Russ:Even by mistake, a team's sideline will be in the frame of a camera shot.
Me: Irrelevant, we’re not talking about a “mistake”. It’s not like Joe Blow “accidently” turned on a camcorder and was merely walking around and just so happened to be filming at the time.
Russ:What you are not getting, because you and Bubba are far too ignorant or just plain dumb, is the fact you are allowed to film.
Me: Irrelevant, we all know it is legal to film from designated areas. You conveniently forgot to mention that RUSS, lol.
Russ:Tubby is so dumb he equates the equivalent of speeding in a car to "cheating". Lol
Me: As previously stated, Dictionary.com defines cheat as breaking a rule. So, what you’re really saying is that Dictionary.com is “wrong”. I was merely using the site as a source of objective information.
Russ:The act of filming anything on the field, from a specific location granted by the NFL, is LEGAL.
Me: Yep, already agreed upon. However, the Patriots filmed from areas that were NOT Designated.
RUSS:The act is legal. Please get this through your thick heads.
Me: Yep, for the 3rd time, it is legal to film from designated areas. And for the 3rd time, the Patriots knowingly broke the rule by filming in a non-designated area. In addition, in an earlier response - you admitted they "partially" broke the rule. Are you asking for a take-back now?
Russ:Either explain how the location provided NE with an in-game advantage or get bent.
Me: Show me an objective outside source that includes that as part of the definition of cheat. I used Dictionary.com for my definition. Even when you cited definition #4 (fraud or deceit) as support for your opinion, I would say you are wrong. BB knew what was going on. He never admitted to wrong doing (because I’m sure he got legal advice to do so), but most sane Pats fans would agree that he knew what was going on – and was deceitful about it.
Russ: So, if the concept of catching a coach on the camcorder, even by mistake, was so egregious, why didn't the NFL have a quality control process of sorts in place?
Me: It doesn’t matter. Once a snitch like Mangini makes a formal complaint to the NFL, the NFL has no choice but to respond to the complaint. The question of whether it is a good or bad rule is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Nice diversionary tactic though.
Russ:These are questions you and your fellow trolls cannot answer.
Me: Hmmm, looks like I’ve answered your questions so far. My answers make a lot more sense than yours so far. You have provided absolutely ZERO facts or evidence to substantiate your BS.
Russ:Everything falls in favor of BB and the Pats here. Everything. It was obvious Walsh had nothing, the walkthrough rumor was almost impossible to have been legit due to 9/11 security being at its height that year AND the FACT NE had their walkthrough FIRST.
Me: Where’s the evidence for your statement, Russ. What would Goodell/NFL have to gain by saying something happened – when nothing happened; as you claim? Did you talk to the Chief of Security at the stadium? Do you have a transcript of any interviews? I’m guessing no. So, again, your work of fiction shows your level of paranoia. Good try, but you still have no objective website to substantiate your claim.
Russ:And when confronted and forced to tell the truth with a written statement, everything checked out in terms of what BB told Goodell.
Me: I have no clue what yer talking about Russ. BB indicated that he was unaware whether teams were being filmed in illegal areas. Please show me the transcript of what that written statement was.
Russ:As you can see, or maybe you can’t due to an incredibly low IQ, Roger Goodell stated there was no advantage. He says it right there within the timeline link that Tubby just posted.
Me: As previously stated, many people interpret cheat as defined in dictionary.com – the breaking of a rule. Since the Patriots broke a rule, many people feel the Patriots cheated.
Russ:I find it highly comical that Tubby wants me to provide quotes, and when I do, he denies it.
Me: I asked you to provide facts or evidence from objective source other than from RussMakesUpShyt.com. So, again…you couldn’t find any evidence, could you, Russ?
Russ:Hey Tubby, do you think you and your boyfriend here, still believe Chris Mortensen when he said NE is being investigated for "sabotaging communications" during games?
Me: Can’t speak to it because I didn’t hear or read about it. Regardless, on your free time, feel free to let us know what the outcome was. Please provide the source, so we know you’re not makin’ up shyt yet again.
Russ:Do you think it's good journalism to print specualtion and heresay by a jealous rival or rivals, and then pass it off as a fact?
Me: Irrelevant. We all concur that the media likes to sensationalize current events.
Russ: you know who controls the headsets? The NFL does, not the home team.
Me: Irrelevant. Glad to know you own NFL trivial pursuit.
Russ:I still have yet to understand what posting a timeline even means here considering it actually shows how GOODELL's DRACONIAN RULING AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF HIS OWN RULES PUT HIM IN A BAD POSITION. I know the timeline BETTER than either one of you idiots, as do other Pats fans. We all watched the witch hunt unfold. remember?
This came in February, SIX MONTHS after he punished NE and only NE. So, after doing his homework, even Goodell knew he messed up with his Draconian ruling.
Me: It was merely to point out why the media coverage lasted so long. As clearly stated, events happened over time. Therefore, media coverage occurred over time. That’s why the coverage lasted so long, Russ. I think that is more plausible than some man behind the curtain (mebbe the Wizard of Oz? LOL) orchestrating and coordinating a “witchhunt” against the Patriots. Have you found the man on the Rusty Knoll yet? Damn, my response made me laugh so hard I peed myself.
Russ: Goodell destroyed the tapes BB sent him because it had other teams on there filming NE from field level. If one of those tapes were duped or stolen, people would see other teams needed to be punished for "cheating". The original Week 1 tape that was confiscated was stolen, so Goodell can't even hold onto his own property, apparently.
Funny how he destroyed the evidence, showed Walsh's after sifting through it personally, yet you and your band of dumb-dumbs can't see it. You just can't, because you don't want to. You prefer to let the ESPN Josef Goebbels propaganda be your own personal truth because you are a Jets fan.
Me: Oh my goodness. Total speculation on your part. Yes, you have us all convinced that those are actual facts!!! Oh. BTW, what is your source on this again? Please include the link.
RUSS:The Jets also "cheated".
Me: LOL. I agree. So since the JETS ALSO cheated, then that must inherently mean the Patriots cheated.
Glad you agreed that the Patriots cheated….LOL.
Russ:Just who was beaten to a pulp here? Everyone can see it's you, Tubby and other uneducated trolls who have been completely bitchslapped off this thread and the witch hunt known as Spygate.
ESPN still can't get it right.
They have been telling us for months Brady and NE are at odds over his contract, yet you want to source ESPN?????
Me: Here’s the problem, Russ. Not once in your response did you provide a credible source. Not one. So, I’m pretty sure that I won.
The following is your modus operandi:
When someone disagrees with you or calls you out on a point, you immediately insult them, their mother, and/or call them a troll.
When other’s actually substantiate what they say from objective sources, you divert attention to include irrelevant topics and insult the writer even more. Why? So, hopefully no one notices that you could NOT substantiate your own viewpoint.
The reason why you do this is because you’re very insecure about yourself. It’s a very common tactic for those individuals who cannot admit that they are wrong. We all understand that about you. Unfortunately, none of us are able to do an intervention. The only thing we can do is suggest you have some Kool-Aid to calm you down.
I’m also pretty sure I heard you sobbing and crying yourself to sleep at night – repeating over and over again: “Bill, you didn’t cheat. Bill, you didn’t cheat. I love you. You’re the best and would NEVER do that!”
It’s kind of disturbing that a man like you have such thoughts, but we understand.
There, there, little boy. It’s okay for you to cry. Have a sip of Kool-Aid.
Bottom Line Russ, WHERE ARE THE LINKS FOR SUPPORTING YOUR STATEMENTS FROM AN OBJECTIVE SOURCE?