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RYAN CLARK: "Brady becomes a 'girl' when pressured; Amendola's fragile, they will miss Wes; a big corner neutralizes GRONK"

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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

    In response to 42AND46's comment:

    you seem too smart to develope "Rustyitis"



    LMAO.  Have you read half of this guy's threads before?  They are all sensationalist bs.

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

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    you seem too smart to develope "Rustyitis"

     



    LMAO.  Have you read half of this guy's threads before?  They are all sensationalist bs.

     




    yeah i know..this one however was taking something intelligent and rather inocuous and turning it into Pats-bashing trash talking and that is Rustoleum's MO to a tee!

     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/07/ryan-clark-amendola-is-fragile-brady-ducks-when-hes-blitzed/

    wow! isnt this the same clark we humiliated all over the field a while back? do these guys not learn? y is he yapping about our bizness anyways? didnt literally use "girl" but it certainlyis implied.. he ducks, sees ghosts, cant handle the pressure, panics when he has to make an actual play when the timing is not there.. bad at improvision. says a lot about our ball. seeems like the book on him though. suggs implied the same. tb wont fight when kicked a few times, he crumbles and gets happy feet disease. bad indictment. i have a feelin bb knows all this as well and will b preemptively making adjustments.

     



         No. The guy Brady humiliated was Anthony Smith...not Clark. Clark didn't call Brady "a girl". This is what he said:

    “When Tom Brady gets pressure and when you’re man-to-man and bumping those guys and making it hard for him to throw, he sees ghosts,” Clark said. “Even when guys aren’t around him, even when he’s not about to be sacked, when his clock goes off in his head that the ball should be out, we’ll see him duck, we’ll see him flinch. When you get Tom Brady doing that, the whole New England Patriots mystique goes away.”

         I hate to say this, but I tend to agree with Clark. Over the past few years, Brady appears to hear footsteps. He at times rushes his throws, and appears to be more skittish in the pocket.

     

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

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    Going on air and saying Brady "sees ghosts", implying that he doesn't know what he's doing is derogatory, period.

    If one of our players was on record on the air mocking another great player, you trollish tools would be in here making a federal case out it.

    You two (UD6 and Gunty) are such hypcrites.

    The thing is, I agree with Ryan Clark in the analysis, but I knew it 3-4 years ago.  It's nothing new here.

    If healthy, I don't think the shotgun spread base components (with Gronk) is completely stoppable, but that just shows how one dimensional our offense is, but by design.

    It's not like we never saw BJGE have a big game or Ridley, or other people not named Welker or Gronk.

    This is like the 3rd public acknowledgement of a player or coordinator telling us how they stop us, when we already should know it after years of seeing how to do it.

    He's wrong on Amendola, though.  And it's very ironic a guy with a seroious disease is calling Amendola "fragile" because he hurt himself in the opener of 2011.  Welker blew his leg out in 2009, but it just happened to be at the end of the year.

    Finally, as someone posted, the Rams dome turf is rated as one of the hardest and worst in the NFL. 

    It's not like Ryan Clark is Mr. Durable. He's Mr. Mouthy and Mr. Jealous, though.

    Will be fun watching the Steelers miss the postseason for the second year in a row.




    but I knew it 3-4 years ago.

     

    yet somehow Bellichick didn't or didn't do anything about it and worse let it continue 3-4 years

     

    does this honestly make sense to you?

     

     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/07/ryan-clark-amendola-is-fragile-brady-ducks-when-hes-blitzed/

    wow! isnt this the same clark we humiliated all over the field a while back? do these guys not learn? y is he yapping about our bizness anyways? didnt literally use "girl" but it certainlyis implied.. he ducks, sees ghosts, cant handle the pressure, panics when he has to make an actual play when the timing is not there.. bad at improvision. says a lot about our ball. seeems like the book on him though. suggs implied the same. tb wont fight when kicked a few times, he crumbles and gets happy feet disease. bad indictment. i have a feelin bb knows all this as well and will b preemptively making adjustments.

     



         No. The guy Brady humiliated was Anthony Smith...not Clark. I hate to say this, but I tend to agree with Clark. Over the past few years, Brady appears to hear footsteps. He at times rushes his throws, ans appears to be more skittish in the pocket.

     

     




    but note TP Clark says part of that is because Brady is conditioned to throw the ball within a certain time frame, especially to Welker on those quick crossing routes, so even he is saying it's as much about getting the ball out when he is conditioned to as any footsteps...i think he is being less deragatory than analyzing Brady


    I do think Brady was quick triggered and seeing things after that horrible injury but he isn't now at least not to any great extent...I don't think he was "skittish" in 46

     
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    Brady has some of the best pocket presence in NFL history.  It is one of the reasons he has become the HoF player he is.  I suggest some of the "fans" here watch some other QBs in this league before they complain about Brady being "skittish" in the pocket.  Sometimes he feels pressure that isn't there.  BIG DEAL.  So does every QB.  For every one of those events there are probably at least 10 instances where he buys extra time with a little movement in the pocket.  A few years ago Aaron Rodgers said Brady had the best pocket presence in the NFL by far.  Would the naysayers like to provide some evidence that this element of Brady's game has declined dramatically in the past 2 seasons?

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/07/ryan-clark-amendola-is-fragile-brady-ducks-when-hes-blitzed/

    wow! isnt this the same clark we humiliated all over the field a while back? do these guys not learn? y is he yapping about our bizness anyways? didnt literally use "girl" but it certainlyis implied.. he ducks, sees ghosts, cant handle the pressure, panics when he has to make an actual play when the timing is not there.. bad at improvision. says a lot about our ball. seeems like the book on him though. suggs implied the same. tb wont fight when kicked a few times, he crumbles and gets happy feet disease. bad indictment. i have a feelin bb knows all this as well and will b preemptively making adjustments.

     



         No. The guy Brady humiliated was Anthony Smith...not Clark. I hate to say this, but I tend to agree with Clark. Over the past few years, Brady appears to hear footsteps. He at times rushes his throws, ans appears to be more skittish in the pocket.

     

     




    but note TP Clark says part of that is because Brady is conditioned to throw the ball within a certain time frame, especially to Welker on those quick crossing routes, so even he is saying it's as much about getting the ball out when he is conditioned to as any footsteps...i think he is being less deragatory than analyzing Brady

    I do think Brady was quick triggered and seeing things after that horrible injury but he isn't now at least not to any great extent...I don't think he was "skittish" in 46



         True...but I also think he was telling it like it is about Brady being a bit more skittish in the pocket, then he was in his younger days, prior to his knee injury. For example, he seemed to rush that throw to a wide open Welker in the final minutes of SB 46...making what should have been a easy reception, a difficult one.

     

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

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    Going on air and saying Brady "sees ghosts", implying that he doesn't know what he's doing is derogatory, period.

    If one of our players was on record on the air mocking another great player, you trollish tools would be in here making a federal case out it.

    You two (UD6 and Gunty) are such hypcrites.

    The thing is, I agree with Ryan Clark in the analysis, but I knew it 3-4 years ago.  It's nothing new here.

    If healthy, I don't think the shotgun spread base components (with Gronk) is completely stoppable, but that just shows how one dimensional our offense is, but by design.

    It's not like we never saw BJGE have a big game or Ridley, or other people not named Welker or Gronk.

    This is like the 3rd public acknowledgement of a player or coordinator telling us how they stop us, when we already should know it after years of seeing how to do it.

    He's wrong on Amendola, though.  And it's very ironic a guy with a seroious disease is calling Amendola "fragile" because he hurt himself in the opener of 2011.  Welker blew his leg out in 2009, but it just happened to be at the end of the year.

    Finally, as someone posted, the Rams dome turf is rated as one of the hardest and worst in the NFL. 

    It's not like Ryan Clark is Mr. Durable. He's Mr. Mouthy and Mr. Jealous, though.

    Will be fun watching the Steelers miss the postseason for the second year in a row.

     




    but I knew it 3-4 years ago.

     

     

    yet somehow Bellichick didn't or didn't do anything about it and worse let it continue 3-4 years

     

    does this honestly make sense to you?

     

     



    Considering BB dealt Moss in 2010, BB saw it too.  I just said they panicked after the 1st two drives not in an exclusive shotgun spread.

     

    In 2011, things were going great with BJGE running amuck, but when he went down with turf toe pretty much until December, they didn't entrust Ridley (which is fine), but they should have turned BJGE loose in the SB because you would have lost in that 4th qtr if they had.

    Pretty clear here.

    Basically, I disagree with the subbing of the RBs to dictate matchups and the lack of establishing a run game against the better Ds.

    I think BB defers to Brady in terms of wanting Brady to be comfortable with what he prefers, and it has backfired.

    So, by early 2010, with the trade of Moss, there is no question in my mind that symbolizes BB seeing it like many of us did.

    The addiction to chasing 2007's stats was cooked in 2009.  BB then drafted two TEs in 2010 and dealt Moss.

    That proves BB saw it too.  It's the deviation or lack of patience in the playcalling or the over-manipulation to sub backs to run plays set up for specific backs DURING the game, out of the shotgun, is where I disagree.

    And you know what? I was right. Twice.  Last year in the AFC title game and SB and this year in the AFC title game.

    Brady is a WORSE QB in the shotgun than he is under Center. He is also worse when we don't commit to some variation of a run game from a traditional offense. You can't get a run game going from a gimmick offense.  It doesn't work. A wrinkle is not a base, so even when they used the hurry up, it doesn't have the same effect as "Yep, we will establish a run on you".

    BB just walked from Welkie and it's not because of 2 million in difference from what Denver offered, either.

    So, he sees it, it just didn't go as smoothly as one would have hoped and clearly the Gronk injury has to be included in what they had at their disposal.

    What's funny about you is you got blind lucky twice in two SBs and you act like you didn't. Tyree was never again seen in the NFL and Gronk hurt in SB 46 allowed for you to win. It's that simple. Not to mention, a Brady/Welker failure as buddies in the 4th.




    suuuuuuuure it is

    Undecided

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

    Seems to me Rusty trashes Brady worse than Clark did on a daily basis.

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

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    Thanks Russ been here but got banned by some rat. Bobbysu

     




    Ahh.  I thought we had a new rational fan, but welcome back anyway.

     

    It's interesting how both you and I got banned for no reason, yet we share very similar views with regards to our offensive ideological approach.

     



    I got banned for no reason as well.

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

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    Looking at the article, I dont care what someone says. Always talking smack in the NFL. What concerned me is TB's QB rating. Less than 3 seconds 81%, tells me short passing, easier to Defend. More Defenders in short space.
    After 3 seconds 60 QBR. Tells me not as effecient in down field passing, as we think.



    exactly!! 

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

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    Play-Action always mess with the Defenders when you want to throw deep. It's the deception, they have to honor the run, even when the whole play is not going to be a run.

    I've said this before, dont like QB's who are not mobile for the Shotgun.



    I agree, play action makes this offense much more difficult to defend. When they become predictable the other teams load up. The shotgun is a dead giveaway IMO, defenses pin their ears back and go after him,  Brady's much more effective under center.

     
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    Why is UD6 still here? 

     
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    Re: RYAN CLARK:

    I'd like to semi-congratulate the Steelers for expecting that they're going to make the playoffs.  If they weren't going to presumably make the playoffs, presumably face the Patriots some time in January and presumably get to the AFC crown, then they'd never think about talking smack about the Pats who aren't in their division. 

    Would a Patriot ever talk smack about, to pick a random team, Cleveland?

    So, the message boils down to an admission that the Patriots have to be beat in January.

     
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