Re: Ryan Mallet
posted at 7/2/2013 4:38 PM EDT
In response to russgriswold's comment:
In response to FrnkBnhm's comment:
In response to IrishMob7's comment:
Frank, I have a simply analogy. Say, you’re a rising senior in college majoring in Finance and you just interned at Goldman Sachs, the largest/most successful investment bank in the world. You have a great experience with the company and become an expert at the most challenging financial tasks because you learned under the smartest/most successful bankers in the field. Are you going to tell me you won’t appeal to other companies when you apply for jobs after you graduate more so than some Average Joe who interned at a local commercial bank when the two of you apply? It’s the same concept.
Tom Brady is Goldman Sachs. He has tutored/mentored Mallett for the past 3 years. I would think learning from one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game adds intangible value to your resume. Plus, the fact that his immaturity was the biggest knock on him coming out of college makes Tom Brady’s impact on him that much greater. Tom Brady is the ideal professional to learn from because of the way he approaches the game. Mallet is 6’6, rocket arm, awesome college stats in the toughest division in the NCAA, and has learned from the greatest. That adds to a nice resume.
As for Cassell, Gutierrez, O’Connell, and Hoyer: none of those QBs have the skillset and physical tools that Mallett has. That’s a lame comparison. Cassell hadn’t started a game since high school. Hoyer was a nobody at MSU. O’Connell wasn’t that great at SDSU. And Gutierrez...who?
Lastly, I don’t think anybody is specifically saying that Mallett is the heir to the throne when Brady retires but rather if Brady were to retire within the next 2 years, Mallett would step in and become the starter. Why is that such a foreign concept? It’s what Rodgers did in GB learning from one of the greats in Brett Favre. I personally don’t think Mallett will replace Brady because I believe Brady has another 4-6 seasons of elite play before he retires. It’s not fair to Mallett to have him stick around to be the backup and obviously he won’t do that. But say for instance Brady gets hurt, BB trades him, or Brady changes his mind and has plans to retire within the next 2 years, then yes, I see Mallett replacing Brady here in NE.
Edit: I apologize for the skewed fonts. This site makes a simple cut and paste from Word a nightmare.
I think your analogy does not apply to football. Brady and BB have zero record of producing quarterbacks. There is no reason to think Mallett is any better than he was the day he was drafted until we see him play in regular season NFL games.
What back-up QB from any team was traded for anything meaningful without ever doing something in a regular season game? Even guys like Matt Flynn who got three years and $20M from the Seahawks (to ultimately be Wilson's back-up for one year), had two starts before he hit got that deal. Cassel had an entire season.
Based on track record there is no reason to think that simply being behind Brady and coached by Belichick raises a players value to other teams. Nevermind quarterbacks, what Patriots player has left and go onto do something meaningful on another team?
BTW, Kevin O'Connell was also drafted in the third round, was 6'6" tall, and was a better athlete than Mallett is. His year under Brady and BB turned out to be meaningless.
I think Mallett can be a solid NFL quarterback. I just think these claims that he is somehow worth a first or second round pick because he has held a clipboard in New England for two years are pure conjecture.
Matt Cassel had 27 TDs and 7 INTs under Weis in 2010 and was a Pro Bowl QB in the AFC. I'd say if you had Weis working with Cassel every year, clearly, that proves BB developed Matt Cassel here.
In 2008, he was playing very well by midseason and towards the end in particular, taking less sacks and throwing fewer INTs. I would not recommend chaning OCs every year like Cassel had to deal with or what Alex Smith dealt with in SF for 7 years. Ironically, Smith replaces Cassel in KC and will do well.
So, you're wrong. There is one QB they developed, for 5 seasons behind Brady.
O'Connell was cut after 1 year with THREE QBs on the roster. Mallet is Brady's back up and was not cut after 1 year.
So, you lose there, too.
Keeping score Rusty?