Re: Saints and Raiders 2012 draft picks
posted at 1/3/2012 8:23 AM EST
In Response to Re: Saints and Raiders 2012 draft picks
Is every draft class above average? I mean 2010 made sense, everyone coming out before the salary cap, but that should have made 2011 weak. Personally I think alot of the draftnicks are just plain gamblers at heart. It's always about the next guy...he has the skills to be a HOFer! Do you want to give up your $10,000 dollar cash prize to find out what's behind door number two? Ooh ooh, yeah it could be a new car, yeah! Well the sad reality is more often than not, it's not a new car, it's more like a new bicycle, and sometimes it's not even that. I hope BB keeps doing exactly what he's been doing. You can run the numbers backwards, sideways and anyway you want but BB trades have resulted in this team picking higher AND more often in early rounds than if they stuck with their assigned picks (see page 2 of this thread for details). Oh, I know, but how have those picks done? Well they did have 8 pro bowl selections tied for most in the NFL, and are 13-3 on the best team in the AFC. Considering they've had the lowest draft position in the last ten years, and every objective analyses has them still as on of the best drafting teams that's pretty darn good.....but this year, this years different, this year they should trade away all their picks to move up and get the latest cant miss prospect...his name is Reggie Bush...no wait. Michael Crabtree, i mean Gholston, oh Blackmon that's it! Can't miss prospect right there.
Posted by shenanigan
As Laz has said not every draft was a good draft and it tends to go up and down with the strengths of the draft at certain positions.
For example the 07' draft was relatively weak as far as depth goes verses say the 10' draft which was a very strong and deep draft class. 11' was an extremely strong front 7 draft class but as far as other positions it was extremely weak for both depth and talent. Positions like RB last year had good depth in day 2 and 3 but overall compared to other draft years was a weak overall class. Since our main weakness the past couple years has been in the secondary and front 7 pass rushers it would seem to make sense to load up on what appeared (and turned out to be) a strong pass rush heavy draft but BB took the opposite approach.
This years draft is shaping up to be relatively weak as far as top end talent with S's and front 7 players however, from the back end of the 1st to day 2 picks there are some good pass rushers and coverage FS's available, oddly enough that's where 5 of our picks lie. This draft class appears to be extremely strong in the WR position too and there is a very strong WR FA class as well. It's one reason I don't expect to see BB go after a WR early in the draft. The value isn't there as the depth and talent level will drive late day 1 early day 2 players into the late 2nd early 3rd range. BB tends to go after weaker positions in the draft where you can get the top players coming out of those positions in the later rounds. Now I do expect him to trade one of those 1st's into future years but he's playing a very dangerous gamble with those picks. If you notice his selections they are usually boom or bust players because he plays against the odds and drafts players in weaker parts of the draft who's stock is usually hurt because of the team they played for, injury, or because of the strength of the position in the draft class. As such when he hits he looks like a genius but when he misses you don't even get a serviceable player most of the time. It almost makes you wonder about his UDFA ability. Is he really great at finding UDFA talent or is it that his other draft picks in those positions fail so horrible that the UDFA's look good filling the roles and you are left saying well for a UDFA he's doing really well. If Meri, Butler, DMC, or Ras were still on the field performing to expectations for their draft position would we even notice Arrington or Moore? Or if Brace was performing would we even look at Love? Don't get me wrong I love our UDFA's but comparing them to other starters in the league they shouldn't be starters they should be situational players, which is a role where them seem to excel most in.