In response to russgriswold's comment:
In response to TFB12's comment:
In response to russgriswold's comment:
My point is, no team is winning a SB by scoring 17 points unless it's the Giants in SB 42 with our own offense yet again being pathetic and eeking out 14. This isn't 1971. That's my point. 13, 14, 17 points ain't winning title games or SBs in today's game. It wouldn't even be the norm 20 or 25 years ago!
Would have been enough points to win had the defense been able to make 1 more stop in each game. Thats what matters. Both games the Patriots took the lead to win the game and with only a few minutes left, the D collapsed and gave up 83 and 88 yard game winning Giant drives. The amount of points don't matter, the Patriots took the lead in the final minutes to win the game and the defense blew it!!
They made MANY stops earlier in the game. Holding NY to 2 FGs in the entire second half prior to the 4th qtr, the remaining stops in the 4th, aren't "stops"?
Why do the stops have to come on a potential last drive? There should be no last drive because our offense sucked for huge chunks of the game, starting the game with a freaking Safety!
Isn't the moral of the story, if two defenses, one considered GREAT by the entire NFL in 2007 or the weaker one in 2011, each "blowing" the lead late under different circumstances, actually the offense not doing anything earlier in the games.
How can both situations with crappy offense with the D OUTSTANDING the entire bulk of the game (57 minutes approx) in SB 42 or 46, be all on the D at the end??? Why is the majority of the blame on the D, which is gassed obviously so (both Ds always are in a dome like that which is why the Giants D faded late in each SB), when the offense played tiddly winks all game long playing poorly or in mediocre fashion?
Any human with a brain or IQ over 100 would weigh the bulk of the problem is on the side that did less over the larger amount of time.....The offense! They did less! Way less! They sucked!
Non NE fans, the ones who hate our team or who are jealous are giddy of the fact Brady choked it down in SB 42 and then had a chance to atone in SB 46 and choked again. Trust me. I have friends who arne't Pats fans, I talk sports with customers all the time. All the time. I don't live in NE. They are glowing, absolutely glowing that the cocky golden boy with the model wife, choked twice to the same team and can't figure out that throwing 45 times with a lead ain't the answer. They hate our team, hate Brady/are jealous and AGREE WITH MY ANALYSIS. What does that tell you?
It's jealousy, hate, but they also love how Brady isn't getting it, wasting SB chances by himself.
It tells anyone with a brain that our 20 mil per year, future HOF QB has underperformed in a QB and offensive era of the NFL, handing dopey Eli Manning, two rings. One from pure luck another because allowed Manning one more sniff to do something in SB 46, after being completely held down most of the first half and MOST ALL the second half. No one cares if the Giants moved the ball in the second half or in the first half, if the results were two freaking FGs. 6 points is what makes you get all up in arms, after 7 allowed in the first half? 13 points? 10 points in SB 42? Where is our offense taking charge with attitude and finishing the game off? Instead, it's Safeties, INTs, and dropped passes wide open with high throws.
Were you incensed our D allowed 3 and then 7 in SB 42? I was thrilled! Thrilled! Outstanding D! Outstanding! BB. Tremendous game plans and it's not debatable either. In fact, all of his SB gameplans should go right into Canton to show how to slow or shut down good or great offenses for large chunks of the game, even when undermanned or not being a perennially great D (2001 and 2011).
Note how our Ds blew leads in SB 36, 38 and 39...The difference? We got to 20 points, minimum!
Yay! You can do it, TFB12! You can get to college someday! There is hope for you! lol
This has to be the worst come back of all time. Why you try so hard in defending a faulty defense? They lost both SB's for Us. The offense put the team ahead in the final minutes only to be let down by the defense. 83 and 88 yard drives in the final couple minutes??? Unacceptable! You can say all you want about the offense not scoring 30+ but they did enough to win the game going into the final minutes. Complete defense meltdown!!