Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

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    Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    This could be the matchup that decides this games outcome.  We will see just how good this kid is going to be in years to come.  So far he looks like the real deal to me, but it is still early.
     
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    Its definitely still early BUT if he does well against Freeney its safe to say "he is what Bill thought he was!" Lol... This game will be like a benchmark for a lot of areas on this team. Can't wait.
     
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    I bet that they have Vollimer practicing against a replica of the human tornado as we speak......
     
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    Moot?  Matt Light was at practice.  Sea Bass is good but he may have to replace Kaczur at the other tackle spot.

    Also starting center Dan Koppen, sorely missed starting running back Sammy Morris and starting kickoff returner / wideout / wildcat Julian Edelman were practicing
     
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    did you see what sea bass did to Porter and Taylor he stuffed them right in the neck

    this guy is the MAN and Kacsur is not going anywhere he was great last week too

    How can light be a better option than Vollmer when Freeney is @ 80% and Light is too

    i would take 100% Sea Bass against 80% freeney all day

    Move on from the old fellas Paul K

    Let me guess last year you thought Bruschi should have went to the Pro Bowl and that the defense would never be the same without Rodney Harrison

    McGowan/Chung and Sanders/Mwthr are better TODAY than Rodney has been in two years

    WHY because Rodney was playing on wit and courage allone which I ADMIRE more than SKILL

    However the truth is these guys are better than him

    They are better today with McGowan/Chung/Mwthr in there Nickel/Dime than they ever were in 2004 2005 when they had Harrison/Wilson

    And i still cannot forget that HIT that Wilson had on Harrison over the middle in 2004 but all that asside

    Butler/Wilhite on the left

    Bodden/Butler on the right

    Springs/Wheatley/MWTHR in the slot

    MWTHR @ SS

    McGowan Man to Man on Dallas Clark

    Chung SS/ROVER

    Double Down in the team middle by having our fastest MLB EVER GARY GUYTON BUMP Clark @ the Line of Scrimmage

    BB built this team to beat the COLTS

    Tell me i am wrong...............................?
     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    Paul

    If you are correct Vollmer moves to Blocking TE/OT i.e. the postion LVoir played last week

    They may over load Freeney's side but he is not the only rush specialist they have

     
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    I doubt Light will start he will probably be available in an emergency but you don't want him in there if he isn't 100%, and I think Vollmer is the real deal and can handle Freeney with occasional help from a chipping TE etc.
     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    OK, maybe Vollmer keeps his current position.  At least he won't be out of the lineup. 

    Freeney's second problem is Sammy the Bull.  If Freeney swings way around or tries something cute, Sammy Morris runs right through the hole that Freeney vacated.  The Colts are notoriously weak against the run, in part because they have two sack artists on the line who can be blown backwards by a 315 pound athletic tackle, or at least blown out of position.  With Morris on the field, Bill Belichick will be sorely tempted to blow through the line for six yards a pop until the line collapses like a recycling bucket that has seen one too many car hits.  A collapsed D-line would solve the Patriots' red zone problems and would help the Pats eat the clock in the fourth quarter.
     
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    Matt Light will play on Sunday. I think we will see him and Seabass switch out for much of the game..
     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    I'd love to see Vollmer line up as an eligible receiver and catch a pass. He's a former TE after all.

    Who's Vollmer's biggest blocking challenge of the season, if it's not an 80% Freeney?

     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    Tagandtrade - where do you get that Freeney is 80%. 
     
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    Just out of curiocity: why are we assuming Freeney to be 80%?  He's played in every game and had a sack in all eight games...he seems 100% to me!
     
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    I feel like I've seen this board before...... oh wait! :

    Agreed, although I think Robert Mathis is just as much of a threat.

    With only 5 linemen, one of them will be almost guaranteed to be isolated against a critical pass rusher.  With Freeney's and Mathis' speed, I doubt the guard will be able to get out to help before they get to the edge.  I see Watson chipping on his way into patterns or either him or Baker staying in to help.  I don't think Faulk will be much help against them, though ESPN writes that the Colts blitz more often because of their coaching turnover.
     
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    BTW, I agree with the notion that the team that gets the most pressure on the opposing QB should win this game.  I'll be interested to see what BB's plan to get pressure on Manning is...the Pats haven't had a great pass rush thus far in the season.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney:
    [QUOTE]did you see what sea bass did to Porter and Taylor he stuffed them right in the neck this guy is the MAN and Kacsur is not going anywhere he was great last week too How can light be a better option than Vollmer when Freeney is @ 80% and Light is too i would take 100% Sea Bass against 80% freeney all day Move on from the old fellas Paul K Let me guess last year you thought Bruschi should have went to the Pro Bowl and that the defense would never be the same without Rodney Harrison McGowan/Chung and Sanders/Mwthr are better TODAY than Rodney has been in two years WHY because Rodney was playing on wit and courage allone which I ADMIRE more than SKILL However the truth is these guys are better than him They are better today with McGowan/Chung/Mwthr in there Nickel/Dime than they ever were in 2004 2005 when they had Harrison/Wilson And i still cannot forget that HIT that Wilson had on Harrison over the middle in 2004 but all that asside Butler/Wilhite on the left Bodden/Butler on the right Springs/Wheatley/MWTHR in the slot MWTHR @ SS McGowan Man to Man on Dallas Clark Chung SS/ROVER Double Down in the team middle by having our fastest MLB EVER GARY GUYTON BUMP Clark @ the Line of Scrimmage BB built this team to beat the COLTS Tell me i am wrong...............................?
    Posted by tagandtrade[/QUOTE]

    I like what your saying Tagendtrade and that Eugene Wilson hit was one of the biggest in Pats history. Was it on Marvin though? I though it was Reggie but I can't remember. Freeney is still scary no mater who is blocking him....Anyway we do have the defensive personnel and i think we win this game decisively.
     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    Personally, I don't see Light (if he's active) getting a lot of burn against Indy. 

    A.  He hasn't played in 3 weeks.

    B.  He's at his worst vs athletic speed rushers.

    C.  Vollmer's hasn't given BB a reason that he can't get the job done.

    D.  You can lose your starting position due to injury, see Bledsoe, Drew.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney:
    [QUOTE]BTW, I agree with the notion that the team that gets the most pressure on the opposing QB should win this game.  I'll be interested to see what BB's plan to get pressure on Manning is...the Pats haven't had a great pass rush thus far in the season.
    Posted by JulesWinfield[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, the Pats $UCK......what games have you been watching?  The Pats have been pretty consistant on the pass rush this year...
     
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    [QUOTE]Personally, I don't see Light getting a lot of burn against Indy.  A.  He hasn't played in 3 weeks. B.  He's at his worst vs athletic speed rushers. C.  Vollmer's hasn't given BB a reason that he can't get the job done. D.  You can lose your starting position due to injury, see Bledsoe, Drew.
    Posted by mbeaulieu07[/QUOTE]

    A. they will probably ease him back into the role....

    B. His worst is not bad....you make it sould like he gives up a ton of sacks in every game....everyone has trouble against athletic pass rushers.

    C. Vollmer has not faced anyone to the caliber he will be seeing this weekend.

    D. You can, if you $uck.....Light doesnt $uck...Drew Dreadsoe did $uck....and it isn't like Light wouldn't be used elsewhere on the line......
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney : A. they will probably ease him back into the role.... B. His worst is not bad....you make it sould like he gives up a ton of sacks in every game....everyone has trouble against athletic pass rushers. C. Vollmer has not faced anyone to the caliber he will be seeing this weekend. D. You can, if you $uck.....Light doesnt $uck...Drew Dreadsoe did $uck....and it isn't like Light wouldn't be used elsewhere on the line......
    Posted by m1020us[/QUOTE]


    So he's not at his worst against athletic speed rushers then?  Also, who said he gives up a ton of sacks in every game?  I didn't, so try not to interpret what I say, you're not good at it.

    Yea, that makes a ton of sense.  Bledsoe, love him or hate him (personally I wasn't a fan) was a 9 year starter and a good player (Brady's elite), 4 x Pro Bowler (once after he left NE), 2 x All Pro and the face of the franchise before he went down.  



     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    why did i say freeney is 80%

    http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=11214464

    1) Freeney has an injured quade and being that he has played throught the pain he has not had the recovery he needed to be 100%

    2) Raheem Brock only has 1.5 sacks this year and the stough defensive pressure was coming from safety blitz's that included Rob Sanders and Marlin Jackson

    3) Robert Mathis cleans up with 6.5 Sacks

    So i would suggest the Colts will play two deep with Melvin Bullett being the only member with play changing skills

    The colts will have to stunt Freeney/Mathis and Brock in order to get a pass rush in addition the pressure may come via Bracket and Sessions but not from the deep middle as they would typically do

    therefore the colts will be attempting to rush three on every down potentially four the threat of Sander and Jackson is gone

    My theory is the use Jennings and Bullet to double Moss

    Leaving Aiken, Tate and Welker wide open all day

    Plus the same delayed draw we had success with last year when the colts played us deep middle will be available again especially if they are running crossing blast with freeney and and mathis

    This would leave the belly and of end runs wide open

    I would suggest that the patriots take advantage of there over persuit with delay draws with faulk and screens

    this is going to be a passing exibition if bullett has to come up and leave Moss one on one with Jennings

    Freeney is not 100% period look it up
     
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    In Response to Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney:
    [QUOTE]This could be the matchup that decides this games outcome.  We will see just how good this kid is going to be in years to come.  So far he looks like the real deal to me, but it is still early.
    Posted by Clay73[/QUOTE]


    This will definately be interesting size wise. Vollmer is 6'8", 315lbs. Freeney is 6'1", 268lbs. I would love to see Vollmer manhandle him! He definately has the size to do so.
     
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    A lot of people have ripped on Kazcur in the past, because he has usually been the weakest player on a very good O-line. I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but he's quietly having a very good year- as good as anyone on our line. Let's not bury him just yet.
     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    I think Vollmer can negate Freeney on his own, moreover the offense can make it easier on everybody if they pound the rock right at him.  Both Freeny and Mathis are lightning quick but undersized, they can be run on, off tackle right at them...

    Light has always had trouble with the speed power rush, it's why our tightends haven't had a prominant role in our downfield offense for years.  Watson is getting a lot more downfield receptions this season, Vollmer has been getting a lot of individual matchups on his side leaving the tightends free to get open now that they are free from constantly blocking. 

    Watson got a lot of flack from fans here over the years, they wondered why he didn't get more receptions but they never considered that he and other tightends were very necessary in the blocking game.  It's no knock on Light, he could easily slide over to guard and not miss a beat, something Vollmer probably couldn't do...
     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer vs Dwight Freeney

    I wonder if Vollmer has the footspeed and footwork to stay in front of Freeney.

    He's tall, but that sometimes works against players who go against Freeney, who is known to duck and rip right under the arm extensions of more cumbersome tackles.  They say when Freeney lowers his head and drives for the edge, he becomes very difficult to block.
     
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    [QUOTE]why did i say freeney is 80% http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=11214464 1) So i would suggest the Colts will play two deep with Melvin Bullett being the only member with play changing skills The colts will have to stunt Freeney/Mathis and Brock in order to get a pass rush in addition the pressure may come via Bracket and Sessions but not from the deep middle as they would typically do therefore the colts will be attempting to rush three on every down potentially four the threat of Sander and Jackson is gone My theory is the use Jennings and Bullet to double Moss Leaving Aiken, Tate and Welker wide open all day . . .
    Posted by tagandtrade[/QUOTE]
    The Colts are forced to start some true freshmen this week.  The Colts game plan had better be dead simple or else the entire defensive backfield will stand around and look lost, something like Tennessee's backfield did on several plays.
     
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