Sebastian Vollmer

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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer

    In response to Godvernment's comment:



    The most enlightening "comments" in this thread.

     

     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer

    In response to RidingWithTheKingII's comment:

    You're still saying regardless he averages 4 million per year, but that's not true if he gets cut after 2013 for example. He'd get thr 7.5 (or 8.25 which number is accurate) and only be an overpriced nickel for a year, but there is no 16 million guaranteed.



    Yes, if he gets cut after Year One, he only gets 7.5 million.  7.5 / 1 does not equal 4 million per year.  You are absolutely correct.

    I actually like Arrington as a player, and don't have a strong feeling about this deal one way or another.  I think it's a little higher than I'd be willing to go, but not absurdly so.

     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer

    In response to RidingWithTheKingII's comment:

    In response to MattC05's comment:

     

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    You're still saying regardless he averages 4 million per year, but that's not true if he gets cut after 2013 for example. He'd get thr 7.5 (or 8.25 which number is accurate) and only be an overpriced nickel for a year, but there is no 16 million guaranteed.

     



    Yes, if he gets cut after Year One, he only gets 7.5 million.  7.5 / 1 does not equal 4 million per year.  You are absolutely correct.

     

    I actually like Arrington as a player, and don't have a strong feeling about this deal one way or another.  I think it's a little higher than I'd be willing to go, but not absurdly so.

     




    Right. So I don't know why you called me an idiot when all I am saying we have no idea if the contract will average out to 4 million per year if he's not here through the life of the deal. It would end up that way, yes, if it he stays on.

     

    It may appear higher because people bash Arrington as an outside CB, making it appear he's worse than he really is. But, with Talib coming back, it's clear BB is basically putting a premium on his skills in the slot, which is goods news because that's where he's quite good.

    Many teams are now paying a lot for nickels due to the nature of the league.

    I've actually been mocked here for saying how good he was on Cruz in SB 46, but he was.

     

     




    Question...what's it like to be mocked and made a fool of all day...everyday?

     
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    Re: Sebastian Vollmer

    In response to rkarp's comment:

    no matter how many years he is here, 1 thru 4, the AAV of the contract is slightly over $4M...unless he is here only 1 year, then the AAV is $7.5M

    just admit it, will ya




    Again per my previous post I think it depends how you define the average value.  What you are doing is dividing the money paid out by the number of years he plays.  An alternative would be to divide the total salary cap hit by the number of years it is on the books.  If you do that and he is cut after year 3 he counts 12.5 million against the cap over 4 years which is  3.125 a year.  Sure from Arrington's perspective he got 12.5 million in cash over 3 years, but what is more relevant to NE is the cap hit.  Like I said previously you can make arguments for both definitions, but you and Rusty appear to be arguing about 2 separate things.

     

     
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