Re: Selection of '76 Raiders as Greatest Team Ever a Joke
posted at 4/9/2012 4:17 AM EDT
So what criteria are we actually going by right now...? Best team ever? OR- Best Dynasty ever? OR- Best Team ever, that was close to being a dynasty, but actually wasn't a dynasty? OR...???
Here's The '72 Fins...
No, HERE is THE Greatest Team EVER's Undefeated Record that came in a time with: An EXTREMELY Top-Heavy Sport- Because there was: No Free Agency, No Roster Limits, No Revenue Sharing, No Regulations for targeting, then contacting, then actually making bona fide 1 on 1 plans with the best players coming into the pros, to sign with their professional team while said player was still playing in college (Shula got nailed for this stuff later btw), No Performance Enhancing Substances OR Steroid Testing, NO Limitation whatsoever for each franchise's Total Salary Cap...IN and during a specific time era which was a VERY recognizable downslope for the Pro Football Game (Fan Interest, Fan Following; In the Number of skilled and absolutelyly-dedicated-to-become-pro-ball-players depth of Pro Prospects, etc), And finally- Surviving a schedule with ZERO regards to Strength of Schedule based on previous year's standings, and an even WEAKER quality of play and schedule because each team's schedule was 2 Games Less 12.5% less (14 verses 16)...
Here's how THE Greatest Team EVER performed:
Kansas City <8W-6L, 2nd in their Division /> 20-10 Score
Houston Oilers <1W-13L, 4th & Last Place in Division /> 34-13 Score
Minnesotta <7W-7L, 3rd & 2nd to last in their Division /> 16-14 Score
New York Jets <7W-7L, Enough for 2nd in Division /> 27-17 Score
San Diego Chargers <4W-9L, 4th & Last Place in Division /> 24-10 Score
Buffalo Bills <4W-9L-1T, 4th and 2nd to last in Division /> 24-23 Score
Baltimore Colts <5W-9L, 3rd out of 5 in their Division /> 23-0 Score
Buffalo Bills <4W-9L-1T, 4th and 2nd to last Division /> 30-16 Score
NE Patriots <3W-11L, 5th and Last Place in their Division /> 52-0 Score
New York Jets <7W-7L, Enough for 2nd in their Division /> 28-24 Score
SL Cardinals <4W-9L-1T, 4th and 2nd to last in Division /> 31-10 Score
NE Patriots <3W-11L, 5th and Last Place in their Division /> 37-21 Score
NY Giants <8W-6L, 3rd out of 5 in their Division /> 23-13 Score
Baltimore Colts <5W-9L, 3rd out of 5 in their Division /> 16-0 Score
Cleveland Browns <10W-4L, 2nd in their Division /> 20-14 Score
Pittsburgh Steelers <11W-3L, 1st in their Division /> 21-17 Score
Washington Redskins <11W-3L, 1st in their Division /> 14-7 Score
There ya go=That's the year for A#1 Uncontested VERY Best Team that EVER played in The NFL.
EVERY-thing from up above, PLUS:
3 Postseason Games all won by 1 possession
14 regular season Games playing a grand total of 2 Teams with an actual winning record, both opponents with 1 win above being .500.
...and no, "'72 'Fins were THE Greatest" Fans- Sorry, ya can't have it both ways. You can't simulataneously claim that all these larger league-wide factors working towards just a tiny few top-tier teams offered by the points from up above, along with all the incidentals of scheduling and NFL team parity as it relates to Miami's 1972 specific season, WERE, in fact, beyond Miami's Control...WHILE Simultaneously and in the very same breath, claim that the 1972 Miami Dolphins were the single greatest team to ever play in The NFL.
Here's NY's 1986-1987 season:http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-york-giants/results/1986
That...PLUS, in a time with those dozen or so additional factors weighted towards complete league parity.
...Just tell me the Combined W-L Record of the opponents they faced.
...Tell me how NY did in the playoffs that year
...Tell me how they fared against competing in a league with Chicago on the heals of The Bears 85 SB Team (and how Chicago did this, the next year), OR How NY fared verses yet another team recognized as being in the running for being dubbed the greatest as well, in a 1986-7 year square in the middle of their Dynasty (San Fran). Verses Washington, yet another team that within a year or 2, were SB Champions. Verses Denver...Verses Dallas, 2 More teams, just beginning their runs at winning, and/or "just" heading to their 3X Each & very own runs of playing in Superbowls.
It's not even close.