Re: SERIOUSLY... would you allow your kids to play full-contact football?
posted at 5/6/2012 12:11 PM EDT
In Response to SERIOUSLY... would you allow your kids to play full-contact football?
[QUOTE]lost in all the hoopla over the saints and seau's demise is the real hit the nfl and football in general is taking all over the country esp from the ground level. many moms (not this forum's core contributors i'm presuming) are no longer signing up their kids for football. many insurers now are shying away from insuring football programs at the high school level or dramatically raising their premiums. increasingly this is causing a lot of scholls and communities to simply opt out of the activity all together. there is something fundamentally wrong here. in recent days gladiators like kurt warner, dorsey levens and even takeo spikes have all gone on record and said there's no way in helll they would ever allow their kids to play contact football.. period! contact football is fast going the way of boxing or the military rank and file. soon, all the white middle class guys will opt out and just the poor or those from immediate inner city or rural backgrounds will opt in. mostly latinos and african-americans. this cant be good for the brand. this is y all you clowns knocking goody is so wrong. the product as it is simply will have no future. levins has a documentary film coming out where he talks to thousands of ex-nfl'ers. he was on d and c on weei and said its chilling and far worse than most can even imagine. he met so many guys he played with who now do not leave their homes. a few spend 23 hours or so just in a dark room all by themselves. noone can reach them, everyone's on edge around them. almost every linebacker or fullback he knows has memory loss (about 90%) and concussion issues. hip and knee replacements are the norm. in fact dorsey said if he were playing right now and he saw a safety or cornerback coming towards him, he would gladly jump out of bounds and save the hit. he said he's on the healthy list yet he gets headaches himself and has sporadic memory issues. dorsey played fullback for a while. he feels he conservatively had 3 to 4 concussions a game! he thinks he actually suffered 20 concussions per week. why? he always had headaches and got dinged yet everyone just ignored it and said do it again after he got dinged in drills. he's done the most comprehensive research on the subject, talked to the most experts and because he played more athletes have been willing to talk to him. a ding is simply a convenient route of avoiding the term "comcussion". same with "having my bell rung:.. he's learned that it is not normal. what really shocked him is whats happening at the middle and junior high school levels. the consequences are far WORSE there. they dont have high priced medical personnel on staff and limitless health insurance. he interviewed hundreds of high school footballers with severe memory and personality loss issues. they dont get to wear the newer, more expensive shock-absorbent helmets either. dorsey pointed out that he knew junior and the last time they talked, junior actually admitted that he played most of his career with severe headaches and just normalized it. seau officially NEVER suffered a concussion, just like so many now suing the nfl and suffering all over the country at all levels. you know, they just got their bells rung and dinged here and there at practice, thru drills and in games. like seau, most just kept on playing. as the new research has clearly shown, esp with cte, unique clumpy crystals can clearly be seen in the brains of the likes of dave duerson. unfortunately, its so far undetectable until you die and they can cut open your brain. the bottom folks is that the day is soon coming where the conversation will go from concussion recovery to concussion avoidance. this means our great game will have to change..period! yes, it will look more like flag football where collisions esp to the head are avoided at all costs. once a knee hits the ground, the guy is down. you cant come into contact with the head of the running back, receiver and of course the qb under ANY circumstances. most of all, the day is coming (as soon mandated by congress, insurance companies like with seat belt laws, mommies and lawyers) that no tackler will be allowed to to lead with his head to make tackles... period. the day is soon coming where d-linemen putting their knuckles on the ground and bullrushing into offensive linemen will be a thing of the past (thats a lot of trauma and torque to the head right there). yep, in a short while everyone will be standing up, and there will be no more kickoffs as we now know it. frankly guys i played 10 years in a flag football league and i think a lot of those rules could work at the pro level. the game as we know it simply has too many consequences to last much longer based on simple logic. and no, i will not have my kids playing full contact football... ever!
Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]
I GUESS MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE TO YOU:
What happened to the idea of living your life to the fullest?
What happened with the thought of allowing our children to follow their dreams and be successful?
What happened to the concept of NOT fearing the unknown?
I am sorry.. but as far as I am concerned those that are sissies go through a longer life without enjoying some of the most wonderful things that life has to offer.
I understand the concern of playing "full contact" football could lead to you having extensive injuries and shortening your life.... HOWEVER the word is "COULD".... Just imagine everything our kids must be protected from.
I hate it when one person ( or group) tries to eliminate the need for thought and decision from any individual....
In Calif. there are cities that have OUTLAWED Happy Meals for Children at McDonald's.... WHY? For the same ingorant reason that is proposed here... it can hurt them in their later years....
Those in charge of the ignorant forget one thing..... at some point those that are being ruled WILL rise up and refuse to have their every thought and decision controlled by someone else.
WOULD I have told my child they could play full contact football.... YES!!!! I taught them both how to ride a bike, a motorcyles, drive a car, My oldest has climbed moutaine and rocksides... My youngest has swam a mile an a half from a boat out to sea back into the shore to prove that she could do so.... YES I WOULD TELL MY CHILDREN TO PLAY FULL CONTACT FOOTBALL... if that is what they desired to do, I would sit with them explain the dangers of doing so, and tell them to enjoy the ride that they could get from experiencing another major thing in their life.
THOSE who prevent another from experiences that they desire based on their own fears are truly LOSERS in the game of life.
I sit and wonder to myself often where would this coutnry be if it were founded with a large number of LEFT leaning persons. I am sorry, but those that I know that are Bold left leaning people always want to eliminate any possibility that they may be harmed from anything. It goes beyond being careful to being downright silly.
SO would we have ever ventured into space? Would we have stopped all space exploration when the first rocket blew up? What about after the Challenger accident? Would we have continued exploation of this new world (America) following the first time the Indians killed someone? Would Louis and Clark explored westward had they been so bound by fear that they were afraid to take the next step?
Would we be on our way to finding a cure for AIDS?... I mean no one knew at the beginning how the disease transferred... who would want to work with it in a petrie dish?
IF You do not have the guts to conquer your fear then your fear will conquer you... You can sit in a home, and watch out thew window as the snow falls... or you can go an enjoy life. WHo wants to go out the door the ground may be slippery and you'd fall getting a boo boo.
I would like to thank the Contrarian for asking this question.... HONESTLY.... THANK YOU.... Your inquiry allowed me to look back over my life and realize that because I am not afraid of my own shadow like many of today's Americans I have been able to see the world and enjoy things I never would.... My twqo children have been able to experience amazing things that they would never have experienced if they were too afraid to try because of the adverse consequences.... THANK YOU CONTRARIAN.... for showing me just how much we can enjoy when we do not fear everything in our lives...
OH HELL YEAH I WOULD LET MY KIDS PLAY.... I WOULD ALSO LET MY GRANDCHILDREN PLAY! Life is what you make of it.... If you live it to the fullest and enjoy the ride... then it is what you wanted. WHy live it like a doll sitting in a glass house?