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Ok Rick, your thread is getting play now!

@42&46 Wow... street culture?...  Many religious groups feel the same way.   

@dreighver As far as idealogy.. well marriage is in Gods eyes you know, especially when it is done in a church, right?  I believe this brings us to a conversation regarding a serperation of church and state, right?...

God is an opinion -- travel the world and you'll here about many different 'Gods'. To discriminate against a group of people because a certain book says so is absolutely ludicrous... it's mind-boggling that it's still going on in 2013.

And yes, it does come back to church-and-state. Marriage has largely become a secular ceremony -- a bonding of two people who love one another. Furthermore, it provides many tangible benefits, so discriminating against a group of people (based on an uncontrollable condition) and denying them these rights is wrong. 

Slavery was legal at one point.

Interracial marriage was illegal at one point.

This is really no different in my opinion.

Marriage was actually about law.   Christian faith in this country makes it seem like it's more so about religion.

The fact of the matter is, religion was created by different groups in different cultures for them to make sense out of life on earth.

It was also to set up order and some semblance of law. It apparently didn't work very well because numerous wars, mass slaughters and the establishment of sovereign governments actually were needed on top of something like the Ten Commandments.

Can you imagine the amount of murder, rape, etc, hundreds and thousands of years ago?  You think it's bad now, it must have been just horrendous back in the day. Would put the 19th cenutry western expansion to shame. Everyone smelled, rapes and murders right there in the open all day long, etc.   lol

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Ok Rick, your thread is getting play now!

@42&46 Wow... street culture?...  Many religious groups feel the same way.   

@dreighver As far as idealogy.. well marriage is in Gods eyes you know, especially when it is done in a church, right?  I believe this brings us to a conversation regarding a serperation of church and state, right?...

true.. most religions actually

Look my point in all of this is I am playing a devils advocate if you will.  Saying 'street culture' about someone that MAYBE is speaking upon a religious outlook, is just as bad as speaking out about gay people in that manner.  People have their own beliefs. 

That's why I typically don't get involved with these discussions.  It's almost impossible not to get angry, upset, or thrown under the bus...  Football can do that too, but at least we all want the best for the Pats besides the trolls.

that's also true.. but i'm the opposite when it comes to discussions.. i love these discussions because open dialgue is the only way hearts and minds have been changed for the better. you shouldn't take it personally.

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During an interview with radio personality Artie Lange, San Francisco 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver said he would not be welcoming of a gay player on his team, Yahoo! Sports reported:

â€ÂÂÂœI don’t do the gay guys man,” said Culliver, whose Niners play the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. â€ÂÂÂœI don’t do that. No, we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do.”

â€ÂÂÂœCan’t be with that sweet stuff. Nah…can’t be…in the locker room man. Nah.”

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/01/30/1518711/san-francisco-49ers-player-wouldnt-tolerate-gay-teammate-cant-be-with-that-sweet-stuff/?mobile=nc

would NE fans be open to an openly gay player playing for the patriots? i wonder how the people of Provincetown like TSWFAN and kansaspatriot feel about this?

Culliver is probably gay himself.  I always get a kick out of people who are so overly vocal on issues that really have no relevance to them, nor is it being their business.

Personally, I could care less if the person was blue, gay and had one arm.  If they are good, they're good.

here we completely agree although i would venture your reasons are more logical than humane...in fact i am sure of it

Pipe down, troll. You're wrong again.

My sister is gay, she's a doctor and she helps people everyday.  You also know nothing about me off this board.  You're still arrogant thinking you do.  I hold doors for little old ladies, have volunteered to help charities, donated money, helped homeless people, etc.  Don't lecture me about being humane.

Admittdly, I may have my view based on having a close relative who is gay, but I never cared.  I don't know why people care so much about how another person feels for another in an intimate or personal way.    People are all different, like different things, want different things out of life and I refuse to be an American and a hypocrite simultaneously.

This country was founded really about tolerance, freedom and individuality. It's no one citizen's position to tell another how live, how to feel, etc. 

This country also has had pockets of time where the hypocrisy is there. Slavery obviously being the biggest stain. Nothing we can do it about it because you can't change history. But, all you can do is move forward.

This is the youngest civilization on planet earth, and even with some skeletons in the closet, a lot less nasty stuff has happened here in 300 years than other socities. 

Culliver's comments come off as self righteous and ridiculous in 2013. 

wow i have a post deleted on here too? BDC is censoring me hardcore! shame on them!

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wow i have a post deleted on here too? BDC is censoring me hardcore! shame on them!

I was wondering what was going on.  I honestly didn't see an offensive post. 

See Ricky... it's hard to talk about this stuff without hurting someones feelings. lol.

i had every single one of my posts deleted in another thread.. that same thread people called me a muslim and a terrorist for having my avatar and their posts are untouched lol.

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Ok Rick, your thread is getting play now!

@42&46 Wow... street culture?...  Many religious groups feel the same way.   

@dreighver As far as idealogy.. well marriage is in Gods eyes you know, especially when it is done in a church, right?  I believe this brings us to a conversation regarding a serperation of church and state, right?...

true.. most religions actually

i'm just trying to include different topics this place has been getting very dull since the season ended.

wow i have a post deleted on here too? BDC is censoring me hardcore! shame on them!

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During an interview with radio personality Artie Lange, San Francisco 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver said he would not be welcoming of a gay player on his team, Yahoo! Sports reported:

â€ÂÂÂÂÂœI don’t do the gay guys man,” said Culliver, whose Niners play the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. â€ÂÂÂÂÂœI don’t do that. No, we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do.”

â€ÂÂÂÂÂœCan’t be with that sweet stuff. Nah…can’t be…in the locker room man. Nah.”

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/01/30/1518711/san-francisco-49ers-player-wouldnt-tolerate-gay-teammate-cant-be-with-that-sweet-stuff/?mobile=nc

would NE fans be open to an openly gay player playing for the patriots? i wonder how the people of Provincetown like TSWFAN and kansaspatriot feel about this?

Culliver is probably gay himself.  I always get a kick out of people who are so overly vocal on issues that really have no relevance to them, nor is it being their business.

Personally, I could care less if the person was blue, gay and had one arm.  If they are good, they're good.

here we completely agree although i would venture your reasons are more logical than humane...in fact i am sure of it

Pipe down, troll. You're wrong again.

My sister is gay, she's a doctor and she helps people everyday.  You also know nothing about me off this board.  You're still arrogant thinking you do.  I hold doors for little old ladies, have volunteered to help charities, donated money, helped homeless people, etc.  Don't lecture me about being humane.

Admittdly, I may have my view based on having a close relative who is gay, but I never cared.  I don't know why people care so much about how another person feels for another in an intimate or personal way.    People are all different, like different things, want different things out of life and I refuse to be an American and a hypocrite simultaneously.

This country was founded really about tolerance, freedom and individuality. It's no one citizen's position to tell another how live, how to feel, etc. 

This country also has had pockets of time where the hypocrisy is there. Slavery obviously being the biggest stain. Nothing we can do it about it because you can't change history. But, all you can do is move forward.

This is the youngest civilization on planet earth, and even with some skeletons in the closet, a lot less nasty stuff has happened here in 300 years than other socities. 

Culliver's comments come off as self righteous and ridiculous in 2013. 

i hear u just based on ur way of "expressing" urself, etc...u come across the way i described

 a logical reason for a belief is great but not necessarily a humane reason...some people can think but can they feel?

if i am wrong u have my apologies

You're wrong. Apology accepted, I guess. You have this nasty habit of assuming and being ignorant and arrogant at the same time.

You;re definitely one of the more arrogant trolls just stomping around here interjecting in the threads, left and right.

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wow i have a post deleted on here too? BDC is censoring me hardcore! shame on them!

I was wondering what was going on.  I honestly didn't see an offensive post. 

See Ricky... it's hard to talk about this stuff without hurting someones feelings. lol.

i had every single one of my posts deleted in another thread.. that same thread people called me a muslim and a terrorist for having my avatar and their posts are untouched lol.