Six Personnel Errors That Haunt the Patriots

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    Again... he has been battling injuries, mainly hamstring I believe all season, slowing down a player who by all standards isn't all that fast for a corner.  In case some of you forget this is a contact sport, just because Bo Jackson blows out his hip doesn't mean he wasn't one of the best ever to play the game.  

    Your selective memory about Bodden is typical, so go ahead and dismiss his entire career leading up to this season to prove your point, including 09' when he played great beyond just the 5 INT's, it makes really makes your argument.

    I'll forget all the times you suggested we draft an outside linebacker from the college ranks who is now delivering packages for UPS or serving up eggs and hash at Mel's Diner.  The same way you've convienently forgotten...

    The only reason it doesn't "haunt" you is because you don't have to actually watch the team that you draft or pick in free agency.  Of course if you did undoubtedly they would be undefeated every season or at least you'd have a better record than Bill Belichick.

    I wonder where you're level of appreciation for our coach would be right now if we were the Bengal's or any of the other 30+ teams who haven't been the winningest over the past decade?

    Please spare me the cut and paste dissection of everything I say, I won't argue you over my missing comma in paragraph two but you should really consider coming back to Earth. The weather's great here, go outside get some fresh air...
     
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    The only real mistake on that list was Chad Jackson, what a bust he turned out to be.

    We have a list of " damn, we missed out" or "bad pickup/draft pick" but its not as bad as what some other teams have had in recent years.

    You want to see a massive list of failed drafts/bad acquisitions, just look at what McDaniels did in Denver or the drafts by Detroit in the early 2000's, or the FA signings by Snyder in DC.

    Now how about the massive list of personnel moves that helped this team? Moss, Welker, Gafney, BJGE, Woodhead, Mayo, McCourty, Gronk, Hernandez, Spikes...I'm sure there is more I just can't recall at the moment. And this is only going back a few years, go back further and we have a ton of great pick ups, numerous personnel moves/draft picks that helped us win Super Bowls.
     
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    Saying we haven't won a Super Bowl because we haven't had enough talent is wrong... period.

    We won with less in 2001.  This is a coaches league, what is differen't in San Francisco and Detroit this year or Green Bay since Mike Holmgren left? Coaching.

    Our coordinators have been poached by every other team to become head coaches, setting new records each year for youngest head coach in the league. We haven't found one offensive coordinator who compliments BB's defensive style, and not one who stuck around long enough to learn, in short we miss Charlie Weis.  We've lost our balance...  I miss The Berkshires in October as well Tex, that's one thing we can agree on.

     
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    We don't yet know if Ras-I will be yet another massive screw up by Team Master Hoodie, but given how he was placed on IR and had an extensive and quite well known injury history going back to HS, you have to wonder if at some point the Pats stop making these "reach" picks and start trading up every now and then to get some legitimate DB talent, as well as a few other positions....it's time, I think, to do this!
     
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    Woulda shoulda coulda, jeez every team makes mistakes in personnel moves, the pats are no different. They've also had alot of finds. In BB we trust!
     
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         Unfortunately, I may have to add a 7th personnel error to my original list...Ras-I Dowling. Lest we forget, the injury prone CB was the 33rd overall pick in last years' draft. Teams', including the Patriots, can't afford to "miss" on such high picks.   
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    Agreed...you telling me there was no one else on the board rated as high as this piece of fine China?
     
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    Tex you say Dowling was injury prone at Virginia then you post an article arguing that he wasn't. In the last two paragraphs,

    "There's some preconceived notion that Dowling was injury-prone throughout his collegiate career at Virginia, and that's not the case. He certainly succumbed to a rash of injuries during his senior season, but that was just one bad year for him. Dowling has said it, and his former head coach, Mike London, told me the same thing after the draft. He played 35 games in his first three seasons at Virginia before only playing in five as a senior. Obviously, that has carried over into his rookie year, and it's tough to shake an injury-prone tag when you've got two bad years in a row. But I think it's unfair for people to throw it out there that he was always hurt in college."

    Obviously he needs to have a good second season.
     
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    In Response to Re: Six Personnel Errors That Haunt the Patriots :      I diasagree that the sole problem has been lousy coordinators. But, let's say for the sake of argument, that you are correct. Whose fault is that? Mine? Yours? Bob Krafts? Of course not. The buck stops with BB.   
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    My quote:  "Our coordinators have been poached by every other team to become head coaches, setting new records each year for youngest head coach in the league. We haven't found one offensive coordinator who compliments BB's defensive style, and not one who stuck around long enough to learn"

    I didn't say lousy as much as inexperienced, they haven't learned lessons the hard way like an older wiser coordinator has.  2007 was a lesson for Josh McDaniels, don't fall back on your strengths as the season wears on, you can't pass in the playoffs the same way you do the regular season, and next year he was a head coach....

    Saying we didn't win due to a lack of talent is ridiculous, we're constantly one of the most talented teams every year. Again, what is different this year with the 49ers, same Alex Smith at QB, same team, different coach, different coordinator...  This isn't basketball where they have a 13 man gameday roster, football starts at the top and works its way down.  I don't say BB is perfect, nobody is, but haunted?  Not likely...


     
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