So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

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    So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

    They couldn't solve this problem 2 years ago when the 11-5 Pats were snubbed but an 8 win AFC West team got in???

    WHY!!!!
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

    Well it happened to us, to fair enough the Bucs would do nothing in the post season as far as I can see. To be cheesy they're beatin the rest but they can't beat the best Tongue out
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

    Well . . .  the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference, which is never going to happen, because the divisions create rivalries, which create fan interest, which creates revenue (turnstyle and television), which makes the world go 'round.

    The best thing that could happen this year is for the Indianapolis Colts to get edged out of the playoffs on some trifling tie-breaker while someone like Kansas City or San Dago rolls in at 8-8 again. If that happens, we might see this problem addressed.

    Until then . . .




     
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    Well . . .  the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference, which is never going to happen, because the divisions create rivalries, which create fan interest, which creates revenue (turnstyle and television), which makes the world go 'round. The best thing that could happen this year is for the Indianapolis Colts to get edged out of the playoffs on some trifling tie-breaker while someone like Kansas City or San Dago rolls in at 8-8 again. If that happens, we might see this problem addressed. Until then . . .
    Posted by p-mike

    HA!

    Yup they don't care if it happens to us, but if the Colts miss out! Whoa, h*ll to pay then

     
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    But now they wont get screwed in the draft order due to the "Patriot rule". They will pick before the first playoff team picks.
     
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    We'll just have to wait and see how this season finishes out.  It seems a fairly strong probability one or two teams with better records than a division winner may not make the playoffs.  If one of them is Indy, will Polain shove his weight around and try to change the system? It will be an interesting post season if that happens!

     
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    They couldn't solve this problem 2 years ago when the 11-5 Pats were snubbed but an 8 win AFC West team got in??? WHY!!!!
    Posted by rameakap

    Maybe they won their division? Is that no longer the format? Get a clue or watch more football but not while you're watching some porno flick.
     
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    Well . . .  the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference, which is never going to happen, because the divisions create rivalries, which create fan interest, which creates revenue (turnstyle and television), which makes the world go 'round. The best thing that could happen this year is for the Indianapolis Colts to get edged out of the playoffs on some trifling tie-breaker while someone like Kansas City or San Dago rolls in at 8-8 again. If that happens, we might see this problem addressed. Until then . . .
    Posted by p-mike

    It is what it is. Colts have no bearing on it.
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

    "one or two teams with better records than a division winner may not make the playoffs." 

    But that has happened fairly frequently and that doesn't really cause an issue. 

    This issue is if the division winner has a losing record. 

    I'm also a little confused why this poster is getting worked up over something that may not happen. I suspect Seattle will win the division with a winning record. 

    Yes, it was disappointing a couple years ago when our 11-5 team didn't get in. Is the disappointment still that bitter, a scab that can start bleeding at any moment? Not for me. I've moved on. 

    "the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference," I don't know if I agree with that. You could also keep the divisions but make a rule that no team with a losing record gets to go to the playoffs, in that case, a third wild card team would get in.

    Maybe wait and see how this plays out and then fuss over it in the offseason? We've got a game tomorrow baby!


     
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    It's rare for an 11 win team to not make the playoffs.
    I agree with BostonTrollSpanker that this may not even happen.
    There are still 6 games left to play before the playoffs begin.
     
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    I wouldnt bank oN Seattle. Pete Carrol is showing *again* he should stick to college with Spurrier and saban. If an 11-5 team doesn't make it then its their fault. Should have made another play or gone for it on 4th down.
     
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    " one or two teams with better records than a division winner may not make the playoffs."  But that has happened fairly frequently and that doesn't really cause an issue.  This issue is if the division winner has a losing record.  I'm also a little confused why this poster is getting worked up over something that may not happen. I suspect Seattle will win the division with a winning record.  Yes, it was disappointing a couple years ago when our 11-5 team didn't get in. Is the disappointment still that bitter, a scab that can start bleeding at any moment? Not for me. I've moved on.  " the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference," I don't know if I agree with that. You could also keep the divisions but make a rule that no team with a losing record gets to go to the playoffs, in that case, a third wild card team would get in. Maybe wait and see how this plays out and then fuss over it in the offseason? We've got a game tomorrow baby!
    Posted by BostonTrollSpanker


    Seattle is 5-5

    I see a hard game for them to win vs KC, who must think they HAVE to win in Seattle to stay ahead of the Chargers

    I see wins for the Seahawks vs the crummy Niners and Panthers

    I see losses vs Atlanta and TB

    So at best going into the final game of the year they are 8-7, if they beat KC.

    The last game is vs St. Louis, who has been playing very good ball of late and are only 1 game behind Seattle.

    If StL beats Denver, Arizona and SF, then falls to the Saints, they have that same 50-50 game vs KC.

    Best case w/ a KC win and they are 8-7

    So on the last week of the season you have two teams playing for .500 to win a division and make probbaly TWO 10 win teams (Bears as well as the worst of the 3 NFC South teams) are out.

    If it is an 8-8 team over a 10-6 team that is easier to handle as a fan.

    The divisions are fine. The rule just needs to be put in that you need:

    A.) a winning record to make the playoffs and

    B.) if you are .500 team finish no more than 2 games behind another club.

    That means no 11 win club will EVER miss the playoffs to a .500 team, no 7-9 team will EVER be allowed in and just once in a blue moon you'll have an 8-8 in and a 10-6 at home, which is tolerable.


     
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    MLB has the same issue.

    They need to go back to just two divisions per league. Add two more wild card teams and a 3rd rd to the playoffs. Div winner always gets in but you can have 5 teams from the East one year and just one team from the West if that is how record shake out.

    Two teams with winning records get bye's no matter if they won a div. or not. Regular season cut down to 160 games. A 5 game 1st rd and then 7 gamers for semi's, conf championship and World Series.

    This gives an advantage to the 4 best teams in the game who get bye's and also allows for more fan bases to actually smell the postseason and does not hurt teams that come in 3rd in their division or 2nd in wildcard race but are better than 1-2 division winners.
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

    I don't see three NFC teams not winning their divisions with 11 wins this year.  CHI and TB will have a tough time getting to 11 wins.
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

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    They couldn't solve this problem 2 years ago when the 11-5 Pats were snubbed but an 8 win AFC West team got in??? WHY!!!!
    Posted by rameakap


    Can't deny a division winner a playoff spot. After al, the media will spin it that they played in a "competitive" division. Of course, we'll all be ROFLAO, but that's their spin. They'll be one and done anyway, so why care?
     
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    They couldn't solve this problem 2 years ago when the 11-5 Pats were snubbed but an 8 win AFC West team got in??? WHY!!!!
    Posted by rameakap



    BTW, the Pats lost the division AND the wild card via tie breakers (all 5 losses were againt AFC playoff bound teams).
     
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    Well . . .  the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference, which is never going to happen, because the divisions create rivalries, which create fan interest, which creates revenue (turnstyle and television), which makes the world go 'round. The best thing that could happen this year is for the Indianapolis Colts to get edged out of the playoffs on some trifling tie-breaker while someone like Kansas City or San Dago rolls in at 8-8 again. If that happens, we might see this problem addressed. Until then . . .
    Posted by p-mike


    AGreed, 'cuz in one big "conference", you'd have to max out the games played at 15 (16 teans; can't play yourself), so that you play every team every year. They're now talking about expanding to 18 games and increasing playoff tams by 4 (2 per conference). Like all major league sports, some divisions are going to be stronger than others. We see this in the American League, with the Sox, Yankees, Rays, and Blue Jays play each other 18 times evfery year. Yet, the Indians, Royals, Twins, and White Sox play the same against each other. NO WAY that group can compete in the AL East. So, you live with it.

    The only way teh Dolts don't make it in is if the Jags win the division,a dn teh Dolts lose the tie breaker for a wild card, a la 2008 and 2002 Pats. Right now, the AFC East (Pats and JESTS!) will more than likely take 2 spots, with another two going to the AFC North (Squeelrs and Raven-lunitics). That leaves 1 spot each for the AFC South and the AFC West. The best chance will be for teh Dolts to lose the tie breaker with the AFC East and North wild cards, as they are now. But, teh Jags MUST win the division. Good luck on that one. 
     
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    " one or two teams with better records than a division winner may not make the playoffs."  But that has happened fairly frequently and that doesn't really cause an issue.  This issue is if the division winner has a losing record.  I'm also a little confused why this poster is getting worked up over something that may not happen. I suspect Seattle will win the division with a winning record.  Yes, it was disappointing a couple years ago when our 11-5 team didn't get in. Is the disappointment still that bitter, a scab that can start bleeding at any moment? Not for me. I've moved on.  " the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference," I don't know if I agree with that. You could also keep the divisions but make a rule that no team with a losing record gets to go to the playoffs, in that case, a third wild card team would get in. Maybe wait and see how this plays out and then fuss over it in the offseason? We've got a game tomorrow baby!
    Posted by BostonTrollSpanker


    You CAN'T have a division without a division winner, no matter what their record is. As long as they win their division, there is not problem. It's like the BSC. BCS conferences get at least 1 automatic berth. As of now, Pitt and teh ACC winner will get berths, while some high ranked teams with less losses (like a 1 loss Big 10 school, or 2 loss SEC school) gets shut out.  That's just the way it goes.
     
    Do you thinkt eh Pats should have gotten in at 11-5, with all 5 losses coming at the hands of AFC playoff teams?

    Leave it alone and let the chips fall where they may. Remember, teh 8-8 Squeelers won a Super Bowl.
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

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    In Response to Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in! : Seattle is 5-5 I see a hard game for them to win vs KC, who must think they HAVE to win in Seattle to stay ahead of the Chargers I see wins for the Seahawks vs the crummy Niners and Panthers I see losses vs Atlanta and TB So at best going into the final game of the year they are 8-7, if they beat KC. The last game is vs St. Louis, who has been playing very good ball of late and are only 1 game behind Seattle. If StL beats Denver, Arizona and SF, then falls to the Saints, they have that same 50-50 game vs KC. Best case w/ a KC win and they are 8-7 So on the last week of the season you have two teams playing for .500 to win a division and make probbaly TWO 10 win teams (Bears as well as the worst of the 3 NFC South teams) are out. If it is an 8-8 team over a 10-6 team that is easier to handle as a fan. The divisions are fine. The rule just needs to be put in that you need: A.) a winning record to make the playoffs and B.) if you are .500 team finish no more than 2 games behind another club. That means no 11 win club will EVER miss the playoffs to a .500 team, no 7-9 team will EVER be allowed in and just once in a blue moon you'll have an 8-8 in and a 10-6 at home, which is tolerable.
    Posted by rameakap


    "And if the dog didn't stop to take a dump... />"

    What do you do? Stay up nights thinking up stuff to whine about? WHO CARES ABOUT SEATTLE? They play in a crummy division, and SOMEONE wins that mess by default. GET OVER YOURSELF!

    ARe you going to say that the 8-8 Squeelers that won teh Super Bowl didn't deserve to be in the playoffs?

    ALL YA GOTTA DO IS WIN YOUR DIVISION! That's why you're in a "division". Division winners make teh playoffs, end of conversation. Why do you want to play US Govt,a nd REALLY mess things up? Next thing you know you''l want rules on tiebreakers to include "cleanest uniforms", less personal fouls committed in divisional games (wait, there are no divisions per you), cheapest hot dogs, coldest beers,and hottest cheerleaders (except for teams in Florida, So Cal, Arizona, and domed stadiums), or for kickers with teh most vowels in their last LEGITIMATE name.

    Stick to your coloring books, add PLEASE stay within the lines. Fgter all, the lines are your friends!  
     
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    MLB has the same issue. They need to go back to just two divisions per league. Add two more wild card teams and a 3rd rd to the playoffs. Div winner always gets in but you can have 5 teams from the East one year and just one team from the West if that is how record shake out. Two teams with winning records get bye's no matter if they won a div. or not. Regular season cut down to 160 games. A 5 game 1st rd and then 7 gamers for semi's, conf championship and World Series. This gives an advantage to the 4 best teams in the game who get bye's and also allows for more fan bases to actually smell the postseason and does not hurt teams that come in 3rd in their division or 2nd in wildcard race but are better than 1-2 division winners.
    Posted by rameakap


    ... and Game 7 of the World Series will be played between teh traditional Lions and Cowboys games on Thanksgiving Day.

    Give it up! Didn't anyone ever tell you, or haven't you ever figured out that LIFE ain't fair?
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

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    In Response to Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in! : You CAN'T have a division without a division winner, no matter what their record is. As long as they win their division, there is not problem. It's like the BSC. BCS conferences get at least 1 automatic berth. As of now, Pitt and teh ACC winner will get berths, while some high ranked teams with less losses (like a 1 loss Big 10 school, or 2 loss SEC school) gets shut out.  That's just the way it goes.   Do you thinkt eh Pats should have gotten in at 11-5, with all 5 losses coming at the hands of AFC playoff teams? Leave it alone and let the chips fall where they may. Remember, teh 8-8 Squeelers won a Super Bowl.
    Posted by AZPAT


    Hey History teacher... the 2006 Steelers were 11-5 as the #6 seed. 

    For the record, how 8-8 teams faired in the playoffs:
    2008 San Diego  L Pitt 35-24
    2006 NY Giants  L Phil  23-20
    2004 Minnesota  W GB  31-17
                           L Phil 27-14
    2004 St.Louis    W Sea 27-20
                          L Atla  47-17
    1999 Detroit      L Wash 27-13
    1991 NY Jets     L Hous 17-10
    1990 New Orleans L Chi  16-6
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

    It happens. Heck in baseball before the wild card, the O's of 1980 won 100 games and missed the playoffs as did the Giants of 93 who won 103 games and missed the post season. It happens. Back in the 60's when the NFL had 4 divisions the Colts were tied with the Rams for first at 11-1-2 (yes the Colts were in the NFL west. Plus 3 years in the west Coastal division from 67-69) The Rams got the tiebreaker since they beat the Colts and tied them once. This was 1967 the year before they were 13-1 for that great 68 team. Many writers even Packer fans tought they were the best team in the NFL that year.(67) It happens.
     
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    Re: So we may see an 11-5 NFC South club miss the playoffs while a 7-9 NFC West club gets in!

    The under-the-radar crime is that the 11-5 team that does make it will have to play ON THE ROAD despite posting a better record.  This would be an even bigger travesty if the 11-5 team beat the 7-9/8-8 playoff team head-to-head
     
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    The under-the-radar crime is that the 11-5 team that does make it will have to play ON THE ROAD despite posting a better record.  This would be an even bigger travesty if the 11-5 team beat the 7-9/8-8 playoff team head-to-head
    Posted by Artist-Frmrly-Knwn-As-NickC1188


    Need I keep repeating.... ALL YA GOTTA DO IS WIN YOUR DIVISION? Look at the Cardinals a few years ago. They won their division at 9-7, and hosted 2 playoff games, including the NFC Championship game, because their opponent was a wild card. The 8-8 Squeelers won their AFC championship IN Indy.
     
    When you don't take care of busines by winning your division, AND expect help from other teams, you have nothing to whine about. The '08 Pats lost 5 games, all to AFC playoff teams. Thus, they lost the division adn wild card tie breakers. It doesn'y matter what any other playoff team did, the Pats DIDN'T take care of their business.
     
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    Well . . .  the only way to fix it is to blow up the divisions and have an open conference, which is never going to happen, because the divisions create rivalries, which create fan interest, which creates revenue (turnstyle and television), which makes the world go 'round. The best thing that could happen this year is for the Indianapolis Colts to get edged out of the playoffs on some trifling tie-breaker while someone like Kansas City or San Dago rolls in at 8-8 again. If that happens, we might see this problem addressed. Until then . . .
    Posted by p-mike


    Exactly. Having a team from every division in the playoffs is all about making sure as many people tune in as possible.
     
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