so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

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    so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

    Perhaps the talk of ben's greatness are premature...
     
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    Perhaps the talk of ben's greatness are premature...
    Posted by Haxker


    who started the talk anyway? there is no way he's in TB league
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

    Well everything I wanted to happen in these play-offs took place...Well sort of...At least the Steelers did not get #7. Yeah...this sucks...Go '11 Pats

     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

    Big Ben has been to two super bowls since we last won a playoff game.  He didnt get intimidated by the Jets like our  QB was, even though his offensive line is awful.

    Many Pats fan have become what they always accused Colts fans of being.  Now we are excited about Brady's MVP's,  just like Colts fans celebrated all of those Manning MVP's. 

    These two teams in tonights Super Bowl are everything the Pats are not,  tough and physical. They do not have the worst pass  and 3rd down defense in NFL.   The Pats didnt belong in this game, especially after letting the Jets defense bully them on offense, and letting Mark Sanchez throw the ball all over the field...


     
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    Actually Big Ben is now in the same category as Tom & Peyton as all 3 QB's were former Superbowl winners but have now suffered a SB loss. So which of the 3 or any will ever win another SB? I don't think any of them will win another one.
     
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    Actually Big Ben is now in the same category as Tom & Peyton as all 3 QB's were former Superbowl winners but have now suffered a SB loss. So which of the 3 or any will ever win another SB? I don't think any of them will win another one.
    Posted by Leonard15


    WOW, you know something we don't?  Neither the Pats, Steelers or Packers are on the decline.  Each QB has many more years of quality play left in them and Brady has the youngest team behind him.  The Pats are looking good.
     
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    Big Ben has been to two super bowls since we last won a playoff game.  He didnt get intimidated by the Jets like our  QB was, even though his offensive line is awful. Many Pats fan have become what they always accused Colts fans of being.  Now we are excited about Brady's MVP's,  just like Colts fans celebrated all of those Manning MVP's.  These two teams in tonights Super Bowl are everything the Pats are not,  tough and physical. They do not have the worst pass  and 3rd down defense in NFL.   The Pats didnt belong in this game, especially after letting the Jets defense bully them on offense, and letting Mark Sanchez throw the ball all over the field...
    Posted by Spetznaz24



    Wow, I dont get what you got from this.  We played badly against the Jets, but intimidated?  Not from my view.  Oh, and we kicked the crud out of those "tough, physical" Steelers.  We beat the Packers, but I don't feel we would have if Rodgers was playing.  Never know, but that was my feeling at the time.  Don't put so much on a Jet win in the playoffs.  Yes, they did everything they needed to do for a win, but the Patriots contributed with drops, flops, and generally poor play.  I feel we are going to be stronger next year for sure, and I don't think the Jets will be as good.  
     
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     He didnt get intimidated by the Jets like our  QB was, even though his offensive line is awful. 
    Posted by Spetznaz24

    ok, im just going to say this because i think your stupid

    Mr. Rape vs the jets in the ACF title game 10-19 133 yards, 2 ints.
    Brady vs the jets in the div round : 29-45 299 yards, 2 TDS 1 Int.

    In short, Drink a nice tall glass of shut the funk up, maybe watch the games a bit, and put the crack pipe down.

    Big ben is like that home run hitter, he might look like crap alot but sometimes he hits a homerun, and tonight he struck out looking.



     
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    In Response to Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom... : WOW, you know something we don't?  Neither the Pats, Steelers or Packers are on the decline.  Each QB has many more years of quality play left in them and Brady has the youngest team behind him.  The Pats are looking good.
    Posted by agcsbill


    Well I don't think the Tom will win another SB b/c he doesn't win anymore in the postseason as he hasn't been the same since 2004 postseason. Big Ben is just overrated and he really didn't do much in the previous 2 Superbowl wins and Peyton Manning may have the best shot at winning another one if his receivers get healthy again. But really I wouldn't count on any of the 3 winning another title as I can't remember the last time a former SB winning QB who then became a loser and then became a winner again. You might have to go back to the 70's with the Dallas Cowboys Roger Staubauck who was the last to regain the SB.
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

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    In Response to Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom... : ok, im just going to say this because i think your stupid Mr. Rape vs the jets in the ACF title game 10-19 133 yards, 2 ints. Brady vs the jets in the div round : 29-45 299 yards, 2 TDS 1 Int. In short, Drink a nice tall glass of shut the funk up, maybe watch the games a bit, and put the crack pipe down. Big ben is like that home run hitter, he might look like crap alot but sometimes he hits a homerun, and tonight he struck out looking.
    Posted by ChasaB



    Like Bill Belichick said: Stats are for losers!  It doesnt matter if Big Ben had 2 picks  in the Jets game, he still made the big plays.  Did you see them going on fourth down  with 2:00  to go with a lead?  Or were you blind?  Ben made the big plays and didnt get intimidated.
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

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    In Response to Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom... : Well I don't think the Tom will win another SB b/c he doesn't win anymore in the postseason as he hasn't been the same since 2004 postseason. Big Ben is just overrated and he really didn't do much in the previous 2 Superbowl wins and Peyton Manning may have the best shot at winning another one if his receivers get healthy again. But really I wouldn't count on any of the 3 winning another title as I can't remember the last time a former SB winning QB who then became a loser and then became a winner again. You might have to go back to the 70's with the Dallas Cowboys Roger Staubauck who was the last to regain the SB.
    Posted by Leonard15

    Ummm...does Joe Montana and the 49ers ring a bell?  Even though he did not lose a SB, he and the 49ers went into a swoon for a few years and they came back and won a couple more SBs. You seem quite confident in your opinion with no facts to back it up other than your opinion.  Also, Brady does not win the SB by himself, it is a TEAM thing.  You saying the Pats aren't going to get back to the SB at all?  You are a Jets fan, right.. so I take your opinion with a huge amount of salt!
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

    I mean, the guy has MADE IT to the Super Bowl 3 times...that's gotta count for something.

    Sheesh, we all know Brady is great, but he makes his share of mistakes, and he's not the only good QB in the league. Giving other guys their just props does not take away from Brady in any way whatsoever.

    I'm not a fan of Ben's off the field antics, but if Brady went down and we could have Ben replace him ON the field, I'd take him in a heartbeat. He will make mistakes, but the guy is an ff'ing competitor who plays hurt and gives it everything he's got.
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

    A Quaterback that lost and then comeback to win...does John Elway ring a bell. Do your homework.
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

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    Turd is Jim Plunkett.  He;s a guy in a very good organization with two rings.  So, what was Rapelisturd's QB rating when it was all said and done? Everything that comes out of Pitt is overrated. 
    Posted by BBReigns


    Not Greg "Avoid" Lloyd. That guy was awesome. Levon Kirkland too. 300 lbs LB who actually can run? Yes please.
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

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    Lets see that upward Trend: 2007  Super Bowl Lost 2008  Missed Playoffs 2009  Lost first round 2010  Lost Divisional round
    Posted by Patsman2


    Just want to point out something here for you chief

    2007 lost the superbowl(no team has made it back the year after losing since the bills)

    2008 missed the playoffs after losing brady for the year
    2009 improved to losing in the first round (thats just like moving up no?)
    2010 Improved to losing in the divisional round all while having the youngest defense in the league, And a whole new offense.(hey they moved up another step)

    thats a trend, and its a trend that looks to be going upwards. next year it will be afc title game, or superbowl.

    And to the asshat who still says brady was intimidated by the jets, and to ignore stats. What about dropped passes? crump dropped a TD, branch dropped a first down in the 4th quarter. brady was not intimidated he played fine and made the throws when they mattered, what it comes down to is those good throws were dropped.
     
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    Re: so yeah, Big Ben is in the same league as Tom...

    Ben has won two championships, almost a third last night.  Certainly can be mentioned right now with top QB's, surly a lot more then Rodgers can be. I just shake my head with all the talk about how great Rodgers is. C'mon now!
     
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