Re: some where Wes is laughing
posted at 6/21/2013 10:37 AM EDT
In response to rkarp's comment:
In response to IrishMob7's comment:
You know rkarp, I really really try to like you and engage in football talk with you, but you make it so difficult because of your trollish behavior. The police haven't even made a statement implying that Hern is the murderer or that Hern will be locked up, etc. and you take the opportunity to jump all over Kraft/BB AND try to make light of a murder by saying Wes is laughing about the situation. Shame on you.
1. Wes is a great guy so I highly doubt he is laughing about a situation that left somebody dead.
2. Hern was a teammate of Wes's who by all implications, was a friend. He didn't leave because he disliked his teammates; he left because BB/Kraft didn't want him anymore. This has no correlation to a grudge against his former teammates.
3. Hern has shown NOTHING to this point that he isn't a good person, player, teammate, etc. besides you, being the 'all-access' guy that you are, seeing him in a nightclub being drunk. Appalling! A 22-year old millionaire was wasted in a club. Oh, the humanity.
4. Say for instance that Hern is found guilty of either murder or an accomplice, how could BB/Kraft foresee Hern becoming a murderer? Because he smoked weed in the past and grew up in the hood? WOW! You just described 50+% of the NFL.
This is beneath you dude
I can assure you Wes and Hern have nothing in common other than the name on the uniform the past couple of years.
Now that you have had the chance to read other reports all day, aren't you feeling a little foolish regarding points 3 and 4?
Can I ask you how I could possibly feel foolish for my points 3 and 4? Seriously. Please elaborate on how my posts were foolish. 3 indicates that PRIOR to this incident, he had shown nothing to deem him a bad teammate, person, player, etc.. 4. has absolutely nothing to do with reports coming out today. I was hypothetically stating that in the case of Hern actually being found guilty of murder, how could BB/Kraft foresee that he would do such a crime? I was challenging YOU. I don't look foolish for asking you a question.
At the time of the contract extension, Hern had shown NOTHING that would indicate he was involving himself with criminal activity. He had kept his head on straight and mouth shut throughout his rookie contract. Do you really think BB/Kraft/pats org had not done their due diligence in keeping track of Hern and his off the field behavior before giving him a huge cotract extension? If you think they didn't, I have a bridge to sell you.
Does this recent accusation with Hern look bad on the franchise? Absolutely. Only a blind moron would argue that it doesn't. However, for one, it's on Hernandez. He's a big boy and made his own decisions. Was BB/Kraft supposed to keep a 24/7 surveillance on him making sure he doesn't screw up, even though he's given no reason not to trust him since joining the Pats? To try to scapegoat and put this on BB/Kraft is absolutely ridiculous. Makes it seem that you jump on every opportunity to bash these two men. I find it odd, actually. Two, I will let the judicial system carry out the case and wait for the charges to come forward. Until then, I will not accuse Hern of committing a crime he may or may not have committed.
I will also not make light of a situation that left a 27 year old man dead. Lastly, I will not retract any of my points because I still stand by them, no matter whether Hern is found guilty of murder/accessory to murder. BB/Kraft don't have some magical crystal ball that's going to foresee into the future and predict crimes their players will commit. You are being extremely disingenuous and egotistical regarding this topic.