Re: Sorry to pats fans
posted at 6/29/2013 12:12 PM EDT
In response to UD6's comment:
In response to bostatewarrior's comment:
I don't know why anyone would think it's a problem to seek value by drafting a player with character questions when the cost drops enough to take a chance. Didn't Saint Dungy,himself, famously ask Warren Sapp if he had reformed himself enough to be the leader of his Buccaneer defense after his draft value dropped coming out of Miami? it also seemed that Saint Tony had a different standard of behavior for players of little talent. Furthermore when the Eagles had an opportunity to pick up Michael Vick as a free agent, wasn't Dungy lobbying for Vick?
If it's good enough for Dungy; why can't Bill do it?
bostate - you have a point. Initially i disagreed but I reread, and although I don't know the circumstances surrounding Sapp, I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. Dungy would absolutely do something like that and has always promoted a public persona of decency.
Here's the thing. Belichick never pushes the morality play. In fact, he appears to publicly attempt to play the opposite role - that of anti-establishment antagonist. Yet, when he brings players into the fold - if they were wayward - they "sat up and flew straight". And this was the patriot way of "rehabbing" the bad player images. Leave the dirty work to belichick. players shut up and toe the line.
Others started pushing that it was more than that. fans, media, the players themselves, Kraft. Great promotional stuff. I'd bet shirts were even made up at some point. I don't begrudge the idea, but as evidenced by Hernandez, its hard if not impossible to "change" everyone.
Dungy - worked to rehab players and would promote those he thought he got through to (vick) while knowing full well that the player could easily go off the rails.
The pats seemed to think their system was above that.
Enlighten us troll. How have you drawn this conclusion?